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Old Posted Oct 25, 2018, 1:28 PM
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Why the height reduction after it was already green lit at its full proposed height? Although 977' and 600' is great for the area and will dramatically make a difference, that is still disappointing.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2018, 1:32 PM
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Probably pulled back on some of the top crown. Seems to be popular around Chicago on new buildings lately, that is until Salesforce comes to town and moves into WFS
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it could also be a VE floor-to-floor height reduction.

"mister contractor, we're way over-budget, i need you to squeeze $20M out of this project."

"well, if we shrink each floor by 8", i can give you $10M back right there."

"do it."
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Still happy to see the parking lot disappear and I like the tower design, but that’s disappointing...
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New drawings have been issued, there has been a small height reduction. 78 floors to roof, 977’-8” to top... just under super tall.

Shorter tower is... 50 floors to roof, 593’-4” to top
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2018, 2:04 PM
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^ There won’t be a link.

He’s obviously somebody on the inside, maybe working for the contractor or architect, and thus this isn’t public info.

But we’re glad he provides this forum with such info.
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Why the height reduction after it was already green lit at its full proposed height? Although 977' and 600' is great for the area and will dramatically make a difference, that is still disappointing.
Maybe it made economic sense to do so, or some of the crown was taken off?

I agree it's disappointing.
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Not quite sure why a 30ft reduction makes that much economic sense... and I never understood why does a high ceiling height make the building more expensive to build?..perhaps larger pans of windows and such? ..anyhow
not quite sure if this is new or updated but there is a pdf link with what seems like new images from there website for this project...


https://onechicagosquare.com/
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I'm not really disappointed. 978' + 593' is massive in that area and will dramatically enhance the skyline. I get the sense on here sometimes that people think cities are measured by how many supertall buildings they have. But only a handful of people are even aware of such things. Most people measure cities by how culturally dynamic they are and how much social infrastructure they have; and the two are complementary.

My biggest concern with this development is that it's designed to discourage street life around it. The landscaped area around the base doesn't have any seating or focal point that might draw pedestrians to interact with the built environment or each other. In general, River North desperately needs a new centrally located public park, an entire city block where residents can find respite, grab a coffee, watch OCS rise upward.
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I'm not really disappointed. 978' + 593' is massive in that area and will dramatically enhance the skyline. I get the sense on here sometimes that people think cities are measured by how many supertall buildings they have. But only a handful of people are even aware of such things. Most people measure cities by how culturally dynamic they are and how much social infrastructure they have; and the two are complementary.

My biggest concern with this development is that it's designed to discourage street life around it. The landscaped area around the base doesn't have any seating or focal point that might draw pedestrians to interact with the built environment or each other. In general, River North desperately needs a new centrally located public park, an entire city block where residents can find respite, grab a coffee, watch OCS rise upward.
Agree on ALL points.

River North is downtown. It needs to act that way. It’s a center for the region.
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I'm not going to lie, I'm fucking disappointed!

From last years public unveiling...

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Lol rude! Should be mandatory supertall if using SSP content
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My biggest concern with this development is that it's designed to discourage street life around it. The landscaped area around the base doesn't have any seating or focal point that might draw pedestrians to interact with the built environment or each other. In general, River North desperately needs a new centrally located public park, an entire city block where residents can find respite, grab a coffee, watch OCS rise upward.
I don't disagree with your assessment, particuarly when regarding the western portion of OCS.

River North and downtown generally could use a few more parks. However in terms of parks at least there is Washington Park not that far away from this lot. The south portion of River North is where there desperately needs to be a sizable park. I get it that we are all waiting on the Post Office at Dearborn/Garand but who knows when or if that will happen.
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STOP! Restore the height of 1046ft in the title. There are no official communications regarding a change in the height of the project. Enough with the specculations and information that is not true.
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I don't disagree with your assessment, particuarly when regarding the western portion of OCS.

River North and downtown generally could use a few more parks. However in terms of parks at least there is Washington Park not that far away from this lot. The south portion of River North is where there desperately needs to be a sizable park. I get it that we are all waiting on the Post Office at Dearborn/Garand but who knows when or if that will happen.
I agree, the Newberry park is great, so farther south would be best. Really, they should level McDonald's and Rainforest Cafe and build a central plaza right there.
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^^ calm down. bombardier is batting 1.000 when it comes to supplying this forum with insider info.

if he says the newest drawings of the tower show it standing 978' tall, then that's what it is.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2018, 4:16 PM
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I agree, the Newberry park is great, so farther south would be best. Really, they should level McDonald's and Rainforest Cafe and build a central plaza right there.
I've thought that for a long time. Bury the intersection of Clark and Ohio and there is a world of potential and parcels that could be integrated into a park/plaza plan.
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I've thought that for a long time. Bury the intersection of Clark and Ohio and there is a world of potential and parcels that could be integrated into a park/plaza plan.
No doubt. If you built a central fountain or monument with some dynamic leisure spaces around it, it would change the whole character of the neighborhood and spur grander new developments.

I think the political will is there to do something significant. It would just require a lot of grassroots leadership and cooperation across govt and industry. The 606 is a great example of how plans that seem like pipe dreams are really just significant investments over time. The 606 was helped by the fact that the biking community was already highly organized and versed in mounting PR campaigns. It's an uphill battle but not an impossible one.

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Does anyone have a 6 foot flagpole lying around, and is willing to climb OCS to place it on there?

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Lol rude! Should be mandatory supertall if using SSP content
Hahah, I like this rule
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