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Old Posted Aug 16, 2010, 5:59 PM
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For the moment, these grain silos are there to stay because this terminal is very very profitable nowadays. At least, the city has done something cool with them : a light and music show that aims to tell the story of the city is projected directly on the silos a couple of nights a week.


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That is sick!! Very nice. Amazing pictures.
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you have GOTTA be lying. This is EUROPE....right?
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2010, 11:48 PM
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Wow, great looking city.

They need to get rid of those brutalist buildings though...
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2010, 6:32 AM
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But what is MOST unique is that it is 98.5% FRENCH speaking. North America has thousands of Spanish speaking cities, and of course, even more English speaking cities, but what city or area in North America of Québec's size has a language other than Spanish and English as its primary language. (Montréal is 80% francophone)
d'accord, but they also speak english in quebec as well. and even with the french language, perhaps not entirely unique in that regard either -- ie., holmes county, ohio is olde german and english speaking. it is the rural heart of the amish world. 50% speak the german at home. although small vs quebec it is large relatively as compared to it's own amish world and even more unusual in regard to the primary language spoken.
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Great pictures! The French architecture styles are a nice change. Is it really unique just to Quebec City, though?
Montréal has a large stock of similar looking architecture as well. Montréal grew far larger than Quebec City with much of the growth coming later on in the 20th century. The result is that other architectural styles are also to be found in large supply in Montréal. Quebec City feels more uniformly old French colonial.

Montréal is similarly gorgeous, but seems to have a little bit of everything.


Montréal

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This is just a small sampling, but even in the old parts one can see newer architectures side by side with old.
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2010, 2:59 PM
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There are parts of Quebec City outside the wall that look exactly like Montreal but they are mostly not shown here (eg, Limoilou, however, a bit of Grand Allée resembling Montreal is shown). On the whole, Old Montreal and Old Quebec don't really resemble each other that much. It is important to note that Quebec City fell under British control and a lot of the Colonial era architecture in Quebec City was built by the English but took on local flavours as it was specially adapted to the cold, snowy winters of Quebec City. Quebec City boasts many architectural styles due to its long history.

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Quebec City is characterized by its more pedestrian oriented streets and public squares. Montreal has many more larger and newer (early 20C) buildings mixed in. Generally I think Quebec is more coherent than Montreal. Montreal feels more like a large old American city.

Montreal may be the big French Canadian metropolis, but Quebec City has always been the capital, which means there are many grand public buildings, parks and an overall design that reflects its status as the "national capital" (for those who don't know, Quebec's government conducts itself as a national government).

Linguistically, Quebec is very French. Virtually everyone in Quebec City speaks French at home and when socializing. English is only spoken because of tourism. Historically, Quebec City had a sizable English population, but they have become Francophones over time. Government business is conducted in French (not historically the case). By contrast, Montreal continues to have a sizeable English only population and has conducted much of is business and commerce in English. On the whole, many languages are spoken in Montreal, which is much more ethnically diverse than Quebec City.

Other things that contribute to Quebec City's uniqueness are its topography, its vibrancy, the scale of its historic areas, and its level of historic preservation. Notably, Quebec City is the best preserved walled city in North America.
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Just an FYI, Campeche and San Juan are pretty preserved walled cities in North America as well. And though Charleston no longer has its wall, it's pretty preserved.
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Definitely NA's most European city!
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d'accord, but they also speak english in quebec as well. and even with the french language, perhaps not entirely unique in that regard either -- ie., holmes county, ohio is olde german and english speaking. it is the rural heart of the amish world. 50% speak the german at home. although small vs quebec it is large relatively as compared to it's own amish world and even more unusual in regard to the primary language spoken.
Yes, I know they speak English in Québec, but there is no other place in North America where another language is DOMINANT other than English and Spanish. FRENCH is the language of the people, business, government, entertainment, culture and music in Québec. The province of Québec has around 7.7 million people and is 85-99% francophone, meaning French is their mother tongue regardless if they also use another language like English.

It is really refreshing to be in a place in North America where the DOMINANT language is NOT English or Spanish. This makes the province of Québec, Québec City, including Montréal very unique in North America.
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Yes, I know they speak English in Québec, but there is no other place in North America where another language is DOMINANT other than English and Spanish.
Haiti.....
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The percent of poeple in Quebec who speak french as a native language according to Statistics Canada is 81.4%. This is up from the past. Prior to Montreal's (and Quebec in general's) relative economic decline when compared to the rest of Canada, the percentage of poeple who spoke french was as low as 70% in the early 1970's. During this time the english speaking population of Montreal was as high as 40%. Economic emigration has been the main reason for the rise in the french speaking percentage, as the population of Quebec has largely stagnated. That, combined with immigration from former french colonies like Senegal, Haiti and other West and North African nations has taken care of the rest. Montreal's economic plight is a testament to the influence of poor political policy on a once thriving city.
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Haiti.....
Yes, you are correct, the dominant language in Haiti is Creole French. I didn't mention it because Haiti has a very low literacy rate. Haiti is just as unique as Québec in this regard.
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2010, 5:05 AM
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Wow, nice to see the Armory remains seem to have been left standing and taken care of...

Haven't been there since the fire. I know they said they wanted to rebuild it, but that doesn't always mean that's what'll happen.
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2010, 5:10 AM
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(See what it used to look like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_Armoury )
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2010, 5:26 AM
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It looks very nice and I would like to visit this city soon. I just came back from Europe and it's so similar.
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Hate to be a tool here but "unique" means to be one of a kind. It's hard to answer the question because saying "most unique" is like saying "most in the middle"... it's either in the middle or it's not, just like every city is unique or (in theory) isn't. Obviously, by definition, every city is unique, and equally so. So what do you really want to know, what city is most unusual?
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Wow flar, you've been having quite an adventure! It's nice to see you've set your sights across a wider assortment of cities than your normal stomping ground. You definitely do QC justice!
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Hate to be a tool here but "unique" means to be one of a kind. It's hard to answer the question because saying "most unique" is like saying "most in the middle"... it's either in the middle or it's not, just like every city is unique or (in theory) isn't. Obviously, by definition, every city is unique, and equally so. So what do you really want to know, what city is most unusual?
Cities are made up of a number of elements - buildings, people, roads, sidewalks, parks, monuments, landscape, etc. - and when people say that one city is more "unique" than another, they mean more of the elements that compose the city are unique.

The fact is, common language doesn't normally utilize a high degree of precision since being extremely precise can be cumbersome and inefficient, and is therefore often avoided when unnecessary. In fact, there's actually a special term used to describe those who insist of unnecessary levels linguistic of precision: pedantic.
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2010, 2:28 PM
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Look at this.....


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All that within 30 minutes from Quebec City downtown
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^Gilpel : somebody went on Quebecurbain's web page this morning!!!

Although, I think they should have added certain views of the city, like the Promenade Samuel de Champlain for example. After all, it did won the International architecture award from the Chicago Atheneaum - Museum or Architecture and Design:


http://www.capitale.gouv.qc.ca/circu...-champlain.jpg


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^lio45 : concerning the Manège Militaire, the reconstruction process is suppose to begin this autumn even though it burned almost two years ago. It took so much time because the building is under federal jurisdiction, but the city of Quebec wanted to be part of the reconstruction and it is a UNESCO designated site. The dossier was complex for those reasons.
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