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Old Posted Sep 26, 2012, 10:21 PM
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2012, 10:34 PM
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An intriguing matchbook.



ebay*

I believe it says Hollywood Blvd. at Las Palmas
Phone GLadstone 5673


Trying to find more information, I found this at a Black Dahlia website (the link is below)


http://www.theblackdahliainhollywood.com/

*The site also had the matchbook (I am wondering if this is where I originally found it)
I now have it on an old cd I had burned with other ebay items.
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I also found this less exotic matchbook on flickr


http://www.flickr.com/photos/41606952@N07/4402171298/



Lo and behold, the old Susie-Q stills stands in all its art deco glory at Hollywood blvd. and Las Palmas.


google street view

above: The outdoor newspaper/book stand along the Las Palmas side of the Susie-Q building has been featured in numerous film noirs.
I can't name them offhand. I'll have to do some additional research...because...you know...this IS 'noirish' Los Angeles.




below: A slightly different view.


google street view

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Old Posted Sep 26, 2012, 10:43 PM
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Pershing Square - Spanish Am War Monument - 1946. A less traditional view.


Nightime Biltmore - 1946
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2012, 11:39 PM
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I just found this matchbook today. It names the owners and manager of Merlo's. (photo below)



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Another market, a few centuries ahead in design. Beverly Boulevard.

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Old Posted Sep 27, 2012, 12:45 AM
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Extreme Amputee.

Originally posted by etherreal reality

found on ebay

"I had to laugh at myself. When I initially came across this snapshot I looked for two tourists named Holly and Norm. LOL
Obviously it's the corner of Hollywood & Normandie. Offhand, I'm not sure if the building is still there or not."


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I think I may have found another pseudo-survivor. The building on the SW corner of Normandie and Hollywood looks like
it contains the back half of the original building, but the entire front half has been cleaved off.

Google Maps

Look at the remaining side doorway. And if you look real close at the current view, you can see where
the 2 side windows used to be. I think Holly and Norm hopped the bus back to Iowa just in time.
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2012, 1:06 AM
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My God Albany_NY, I think you are correct! I can see the two 'phantom' windows (as well as the doorway)
and they appear to be the same proportions as the old Rose Drug Building.



"I believe Holly and Norm hopped the bus back to Iowa just in time"

And you sir, have a great sense of humor. LOL Too funny!
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Albany-- Excellent detective work.- that the Rose Drug Co. might still half-exist hadn't occurred to me. Who knew that not all strip malls are new construction? (If you would call this a strip mall, that is...)
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2012, 1:40 AM
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I agree GW, it's so excellent.
His discovery makes me want to go back and look again at all intersections that I had written off as completely destroyed.
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I found this old matchbook recently.





I liked the old school graphics and old world name so I decided to checked out the address.
Much to my surprise this establishment is still going strong after many years in busines.



google street view


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An intriguing matchbook.



ebay*

I believe it says Hollywood Blvd. at Las Palmas
Phone GLadstone 5673


Trying to find more information, I found this at a Black Dahlia website (the link is below)


http://www.theblackdahliainhollywood.com/

*The site also had the matchbook (I am wondering if this is where I originally found it)
I now have it on an old cd I had burned with other ebay items.
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I also found this less exotic matchbook on flickr


http://www.flickr.com/photos/41606952@N07/4402171298/



Lo and behold, the old Susie-Q stills stands in all its art deco glory at Hollywood blvd. and Las Palmas.


google street view

above: The outdoor newspaper/book stand along the Las Palmas side of the Susie-Q building has been featured in numerous film noirs.
I can't name them offhand. I'll have to do some additional research...because...you know...this IS 'noirish' Los Angeles.




below: A slightly different view.


google street view

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Also was the site of the tres notorioso GOLD CUP in the later 60s til about '74 - The boulevard's hustler coffeeshop of much repute -- Barely had the nerve to pass by it's door as a very agog teenager --
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Great pics guys!! I get lost in this thread for hours.


I'm working on a Downtown photo blog. Currently doing a lot of precise before / after pics as well as my usual architectural beauty pics. Any befores you want me to do?

I live in DTLA, I walk the area daily with a camera. I'm always ready to take pictures of whatever you guys (specifically out of towners) cant see in person. Just ask - I'll try to keep a better eye on this thread
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2012, 6:31 AM
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That sounds like a good deal to me HunterK! I am sure I will take you up on your generous offer sometime in the near future.
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A slide dated 1952.


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Also was the site of the tres notorioso GOLD CUP in the later 60s til about '74 - The boulevard's hustler coffeeshop of much repute -- Barely had the nerve to pass by it's door as a very agog teenager --

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33455118@N08/

rick m--is that you lurking at the newsstand?
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rick m--is that you lurking at the newsstand?
The Gold Cup was still around when I moved to L.A. in '75 and yep it had quite the reputation! BTW, I don't see anyone tall enough to be me in that picture, so I'm safe

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Old Posted Sep 27, 2012, 4:25 PM
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No, both of these pictures are of the same mast, one of the first two original masts (Main and Commercial and First and Hill). This being the mast identified by DWP as being at Main and Commercial Streets (although it is clear that strictly speaking it was off the corner by a couple hundred feet, being pretty much in front of the Bella).


DWP Historical notes: "By December the only hold-up was the delayed arrival of the dynamo and lamps. In growing anticipation, the citizens anxiously awaited the moment in history when the first streetlights would illuminate the night skies of Los Angeles. That moment came on December 30, 1882 before an admiring crowd of spectators. Mayor Toberman threw a switch at twenty minutes past eight, simultaneously lighting two mast tops, one at Main and Commercial and the other at First and Hill."

"An account in the Express newspaper at the time, recounted the historic event in this way: “The Main Street light burned steadily and beautifully and it cast a light similar to that of the full moon on snow. The First Street light was very unsteady, glowing at times with brilliancy and again almost fading from sight. The only complaint so far is from young couples who find no shady spots on the way home from church or theatre.”"

"By the following evening, five more masts were lighted on First Street and Boyle Avenue; Avenue 22 and North Broadway; First Street and Central Avenue; Fourth Street and Grand Avenue; and Sixth and Main Streets."


The only question is which is the older pic and although it's hard to tell, the image from my earlier post (the second in your post) is what is used in the DWP archives as being the original mast. How these arc masts were modified and how many more of them were installed around the city isn't clear. I haven't been able to find any more information on these early lights. But we do know that ornamental posts, what we typically think of as 'streetlights', weren't installed until 1905. So one might deduce, over the years from 1883 to 1905, the old arc lights and their masts proliferated and were modified as new technology became available. Hence the appearance of 'out of place' arc lights. But the location of the original seven is pretty well established.


Again from the DWP Historical notes: " In May 1905, the first ornamental post system in the city was introduced on Broadway between First and Main Streets. This installation consisted of 135 posts each equipped with six small glass globes, enclosing 16 candle-power lamps, and one large glass globe, enclosing a 32 candle-power lamp. This system operated until 1919 when it was demolished to make way for a more modern system."

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1888, Los Angeles:
Is that a flagpole, or one of Mayor Toberman's extra tall illumination devices? If you miss it, it is at the foot of a pyramid shaped structure.

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A slide dated 1952.


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Here is another view of Pershing Square around the same period of time.


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Angels Flight in 1967.


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Hatchet Murders!!....in bucolic Pasadena of all places.



http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...-harnisch.html




below: I wonder if the current occupants know the sordid history of this quaint little house? (center..with the gables)


google street view




below: Harold's poor victims.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...-harnisch.html
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