noirish Los Angeles

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

14. http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/89c115ebe4c3771a_large


Dueling bus stops.


NE Corner of Laurel and Ventura
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SW corner of Laurel and Ventura
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A bend at approximately 11440 Ventura Boulevard, which was address for The Troquet Motel/ [Auto Court]. Very interesting octagonal street lamps on the north side of the street. Wilshire Special styling cues?

15. http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/80b0cd2beeda3360_large





GoogleSVU

What corner was the depicted B&W bus stop? Does the light standard trunk provide the simple answer?




Another clue?


14049 Ventura??









Hollywood Graham - Identify this front end? Has the prow of a Nash LaFayette, but it is obviously not. Vertical grillework throws me.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attac...p-1024x768.jpg




'38 Plymouth in front of ?
http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au...lymouth_P6.jpg

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Hollywood Graham - Identify this front end? Has the prow of a Nash LaFayette, but it is obviously not. Vertical grillework throws me.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attac...p-1024x768.jpg



'38 Plymouth in front of ?
http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au...lymouth_P6.jpg

Top shot is a '41 Ford with the front end pushed in a bit...




The Plymouth is in front of Bovard Hall at USC.

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by ScottyB

I believe that's Hall's Jewelers on Colorado near Oak Knoll.

This is the only related photo I could find on a quick search... obviously a different location (but with neat glass work!).
I remember them being kind of a Pasadena institution.


http://collection.pasadenadigitalhis...37coll8/id/372

Thanks for your help ScottyB.

Here's another photograph of the Halls located at 43 E. Colorado St. (your photograph must be the same store, hence the 43)


http://pasadenahistory.org/archives-library/ (I believe this might have been posted once before NLA)

"Hundreds of people gazed with awe at a big pebble in the window of the J. Herbert Hall company all day today, the awe being due to the fact that the insignificant stone is a diamond 61¾ carats in weight, worth an unknown number of thousands of dollars. All day a policeman in uniform stood beside the window to see that no one smashed the glass and made off with the costly pebble."

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The Halls also owned an apartment building (with alterations by Green & Green in 1916) that still stands on the campus of Fuller Theological Seminary.

The trouble is, I haven't figured out which one it is exactly.


http://fuller.edu/campuses/pasadena/...photo-gallery/

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[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Blaster

Howard Hughes produced Preston Sturges' "Sin of Harold Diddlebock" but pulled it shortly after release in 1947. Hughes re-shot and re-edited the film and released it again as "Mad Wednesday" in 1950.

I never knew this Blaster. Thanks for the information!



HAROLD LLOYD / MAD WEDNESDAY; THE SIN OF HAROLD DIDDLEBOCK (1947)


http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-har...-30963602.html

That doesn't even look like Harold Lloyd to me.
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[ethereal_reality]

Here are two 'mystery' slides for today.

#1

ebay




#2

ebay

Good luck sleuths!

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[MartinTurnbull]

Someone recently approached me with a bunch of photos his father took when he worked at Harry Carpenter's. Mostly it was inside shots with pretty girls. I'd like to post them here, but he asked me not to. However, he did sent me this one, which he was happy to share. It's a Harry Carpenter's drive-in resturant take out bag.

Remember, people: Good food is good health! Harry Carpenter knows!

[Blaster]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I never knew this Blaster. Thanks for the information!



HAROLD LLOYD / MAD WEDNESDAY; THE SIN OF HAROLD DIDDLEBOCK (1947)


http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-har...-30963602.html

That doesn't even look like Harold Lloyd to me.
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Lloyd was in his 50's when he made the film. He hated MAD WEDNESDAY so much that he sued Hughes for damaging his reputation as a movie star and won a small settlement.

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Top shot is a '41 Ford with the front end pushed in a bit...

The Plymouth is in front of Bovard Hall at USC.

Thanks. Clear styling similarity (vertical grille slats and fender-mounted signals). Condition made it appear (to me) that hood was canted forward, ah la Nash, et.al. Note hole at bottom of grille to access crank from potential manual starting.


You obviously got the campus zero'd in.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...per_deluxe.png


And, of course, the cars pictured could have been produced by Ford, in Long Beach.http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...ach/photos.php

http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011899pr.jpg






http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011821pr.jpg



http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011846pr.jpg




http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011863pr.jpg




http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011864pr.jpg




http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011879pr.jpg




http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011894pr.jpg



http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011903pr.jpg

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by HossC

Here's another postcard I found on Ebay recently, although this establishment is definitely no longer there. I've searched the thread, and can't see any previous mentions of Patmar's Motel ... Cafe ... Cocktail Lounge. In the brief bits of info I can find online, it seems to have been a popular hang-out for Douglas Aircraft company employees and hipsters alike in the '40s and '50s. The motel had "14 De Luxe Units".


Ebay

Menu:

Some of the specials. Hot and cold drinks were mainly 10 cents, soup 15 cents, and desserts 17 cents.


Ebay

More here:http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/history...in-el-segundo/


Circa '50
http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/history...04/patmars.jpg



Structure was moved to El Segundo Golf Course and used as Pro Shop. Demolished in '93.
1987

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The Halls also owned an apartment building (with alterations by Green & Green in 1916) that still stands on the campus of Fuller Theological Seminary.
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Are you referring to the one that got moved? Herkimer Arms?

http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/edifice-edits/

http://brighamyen.com/2009/10/29/upd...dena/#more-444

I don't know that campus at all.



P.S. There's some other historic structures on the SE corner of Ford Place and Los Robles, but I don't know anything about them. Still searching

[HenryHuntington]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here are two 'mystery' slides for today.

#1

ebay




#2

ebay

Good luck sleuths!

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Photo #1 needs more investigation, but Photo #2 is the NE corner of Brooklyn Ave./Cesar E. Chavez Ave. and Cornwell St. in Boyle Heights. The street address of the corner storefront is 2215 E. Chavez for those keeping score at home.

[HenryHuntington]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

Thank you. As Howard Cosell once said, "Who goofed? I've got to know!"

Jim Healy fan, FW?

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here are two 'mystery' slides for today.

#1

ebay

#2

ebay

We discussed both of these locations back in February. The original posts are here and here. GW identified both scenes - see here and here. Here's GW's "now" picture of the furniture store.

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

nec Wabash and Dundas, ELA

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

HAROLD LLOYD / MAD WEDNESDAY; THE SIN OF HAROLD DIDDLEBOCK (1947)


http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-har...-30963602.html

That doesn't even look like Harold Lloyd to me.

The video about stunts in Hollywood which Martin Pal posted last week includes a 1968 interview with Harold Lloyd. I'm so used to seeing him with the hat, make-up and round glasses that I didn't recognize him until the caption came up.


Youtube

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by HossC

The video about stunts in Hollywood which Martin Pal posted last week includes a 1968 interview with Harold Lloyd. I'm so used to seeing him with the hat, make-up and round glasses that I didn't recognize him until the caption came up.


Youtube

I recall reading somewhere or other that Lloyd once said, in effect, that it was wonderful in real life for him during the height of his fame because he could walk around in public and no one would recognize him.

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by HenryHuntington

Jim Healy fan, FW?

Is it true? Yes!

[Hollywood Graham]

BRR, I am a day late looking at this fantastic Noir L.A. sight and would have answered your question as to what the brand on the car was. It is a 41 Ford as I.D.ed already. The 3 piece grille was very common in the late 30's early 40's and was probably last seen on the 41 cars (my 41 Graham Hollywood has one). Kind of much like the present day Doppleganger (spelling) cars using each others designs. The basic style of the 41 body lasted up to 48 before Ford and all the manufacturers modernized their designs.

[tovangar2]

The De Mille Estate in Laughlin Park, much discussed on here, is for sale. At just 1/10 of LA's most expensive listing, I guess it's a deal :-)


la curbed

Many, many images at the links below:

La Curbed

Hilton & Hyland (video)

Town & Country, article includes historic pix:


CB De Mille and granddaughter Citzie, 1947

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

I hope I have this right . . . was the bungalow with the "BUSTER" KEATON COMEDIES/METRO STUDIOS sign on the SW corner of Lillian and
Eleanor, with the rest of the Keaton studio on the south side of Eleanor?

Because if that's where the studio was, this plaque on the NW corner of Lillian and Eleanor would seem to have been misplaced:




This looks SE from the NW corner:



FW Photos


The plaque is referenced at about the 25:20 mark of the 1957 This is Your Life episode with Buster Keaton.

Ralph Edward's refers to a "bronze medallion" suggesting the plaque was in its formative stage. Seems as though someone measured only once prior to cutting. But mistakes happen all the time, some more easily correctable than others. See belwo, err below?


Our friend, John Bengston, of "Silent Locations" fame, mentions the sidewalk plaque's placement and also notes that the plaque neglects Chaplin's historic connection with the area. (Many of Chaplin's Mutual Shorts were filmed on the same lot prior to Keaton's major presence.) https://silentlocations.wordpress.co...nd-convict-13/


I vaguely recall hearing about the placard misplacement years ago, by someone who worked in the area, and likened it to confusion between a battle of Bunker versus Breed's Hill, whereas the Bunker Hill battle was actually fought on Breed's Hill, yet Bunker got the glory. This of course begs the question, how did LA's Bunker Hill get its name?

Developer Prudent Beaudry (French-Canadian, former L.A. City Mayor) named a street "Bunker Hill Avenue" in 1874 to commemorate the upcoming centennial of the Revolutionary War battle. The area was referred to as Beaudry Highlands or Olive Street Hill, but the Bunker Hill name stuck.

Joined by his younger brother Victor their land development ventures grew to prolific proportions and included contiguous regions north and northwest into present day Chinatown and Echo Park. The brothers had ample land holdings by the time of the frenetic Land Boom of 1887-88.

By the late 1890s, the area became an emblem of urban blight characterized by a changed residential make-up from affluent mansions to transient boarding houses. As early as 1912 proposals were made to drastically alter the residential neighborhoods on the hill. https://losangelesrevisited.blogspot...c-wall-of.html

Probably difficult to get insurance for a house located on the worst avenue.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00113/00113159.jpg


http://jpg1.lapl.org/00113/00113158.jpg


http://www.trbimg.com/img-5474b3df/t...24/750/750x422

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by Tourmaline

[...] This of course begs the question, how did LA's Bunker Hill get its name? [...]

An agreement concerning getting water service to the area was signed on Bunker Hill Day, which meant that the whole real estate development project for the area was a "go."