noirish Los Angeles

[HossC]

Thanks for the Last Bookstore picture, broadwy_central_bldg.


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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

below: I've been trying to figure what part of the campus this photograph from the 1920s is showing.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/70876/rec/1

It appears to show a corner of a quad.

Here's a much earlier aerial view. I've arrowed another possible location. If I've got my bearings correct, we're looking north with Jefferson going right across the image just above the middle.


USC Digital Library

[Earl Boebert]

Re: Problems with HossC's pictures off of Photobucket.

If I have a Gmail tab open on my browser, I have problems. If I don't have a Gmail tab open, no problems. So far very repeatable.

Anybody else see this? Running the latest Safari on the latest rev of OS X.

Some bogousity involving Photobucket's attempt to see if you're logged into Google? Weird.

Cheers,

Earl

[HossC]

Thanks, Earl, I do normally have a Gmail tab open, so I'll test your theory tomorrow. Having said that, I recently noticed that some of my images needed a couple of refreshes to display when I tried a clean install of Chrome on a different computer where NLA was the only tab open!

BTW. That USC aerial above failed three times before I got a successful upload, so Photobucket are definitely trying to play down the scope of their current problems.

[Easy]

I saw a plaque on a new building on grand avenue by the old crash mansion that mentioned that it used to be the site of a ballroom owned by Myrna Myron. It was evidently popular with the Hollywood crowd during its day. I googled and found an LAT article announcing her death but anyone know if there is any interesting history associated? Any photos?

[BDiH]

If someone has a photo (aerial or otherwise) showing the residential area between Hollywood Blvd & Yucca and Gower & Bronson anytime prior to the mid 1960's, please post it or direct me to a source. Thanks kindly.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by HossC

We've seen the outside of the Citizens National Bank at 5th and Spring many times, but now, thanks to Julius Shulman, we can look inside too. This is "Job 308: Stiles Oliver Clements, Citizens National Bank (Los Angeles, Calif.),1948".

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Both entrances look very similar, but the one on Spring Street has part of the fire escape above it, so the first shot above must show the 5th Street side. Does anyone know how the interior looks today?


GSV

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

We also visited The Last Bookstore. Anyone heard about that place? (453 South Spring St.)

Here's their website. It has a virtual tour and photos. The photos are worth it because they use old books for various design elements within the store.

http://lastbookstorela.com/

Yes, this is a huge fascinating place. Above the main floor are other floors called the Labyrinth with other book sections and another one of small art shops and the like. Really worth looking at other photos of it online if not in person. Here's a couple photos from the site:

The store's MYSTERY section is inside a bank vault.














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[HossC]

Great pictures, Martin Pal. Thanks for posting them.


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Originally Posted by BDiH

If someone has a photo (aerial or otherwise) showing the residential area between Hollywood Blvd & Yucca and Gower & Bronson anytime prior to the mid 1960's, please post it or direct me to a source. Thanks kindly.

There are three pre-1960 images available at Historic Aerials. The area changes quite a bit!

1948:



1952:



1954:



These are only at a zoom level of 50m - you can go much closer. They also have a 1964 image if that isn't too late.

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Knowing about Mr. Neutra, as I do, its all ornamental.

A very minimal porte cochere, which is defined as a covered entrance way typically leading to a courtyard. The garden area would probably be considered a courtyard. I drive past this building almost every day and saw the Neutra name on it but never looked into its history.

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by Easy

I saw a plaque on a new building on grand avenue by the old crash mansion that mentioned that it used to be the site of a ballroom owned by Myrna Myron. It was evidently popular with the Hollywood crowd during its day. I googled and found an LAT article announcing her death but anyone know if there is any interesting history associated? Any photos?

That 2001 article does have some history of the building in it. The article indicates that the building was still in use as a club in 2001

[Ed Workman]

Originally Posted by broadwy_central_bldg

I'm not sure if it's been discussed recently; I tried searching and this was the best post I could find.

Does anyone know where they moved this old LARY car? Until a few weeks ago it was still here in the old garage adjacent to the Subway Terminal Building near 5th and Hill-- I walked by it every weekend morning. But it was moved away, presumably while they begin work on the new mall that's going in on this site, and in advance of the Park Fifth development that is supposedly finally happening...

I'm hoping someone on this thread knows what happened to car 1435-- maybe it ended up at a museum? Does anyone have any clues?

Timing is everything
I received the latest "Gazette" from the Orange Empire Musem [at Perris, CA I may be in error about its official title]
It contains the latest history of the remains of 1435.
Over many decades the car had been stripped of parts useable to restore/maintain others. After sitting at the Subway Terminal it was given to OERM, suffering graffitte damage in the last few weeks of sitting in LA.

Briefly, the car had been owned privately at OERM until insurance etc rules required ownership transfer to OERM or removal. The owner elected to remove it to San Francisco. Near Santa Barbara the roof was damaged by collison with the bottom of a highway overpass. It donated some parts to SF Muni, and somehow got back to So Ca. OERM has removed the last salvable parts for use on similar cars in service at Perris and stored the body in case it can serve somewhere as a shell. One bulkhead was removed sometime previously, such that the body is considered by OERM to be structurally at risk unless repaired

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Easy

I saw a plaque on a new building on grand avenue by the old crash mansion that mentioned that it used to be the site of a ballroom owned by Myrna Myron. It was evidently popular with the Hollywood crowd during its day. I googled and found an LAT article announcing her death but anyone know if there is any interesting history associated? Any photos?

Is this the building you're talking about Easy?


gsv*

I don't believe I've ever noticed it before. It's really interest looking.

Let's dig up some answers noirishers!
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*I decided to go back and look at the building again. Here it is from the side.


gsv

I didn't realize it was taller in the back. As Easy implied, the building is now gone.
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Thanks for the older aerial of USC Hoss. I don't think we'll ever figure out the exact location of that newspaper photo.
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[ethereal_reality]

Here's an amazing aerial I came across after googling "USC 1920s Quad".

[undated]


https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/...he_late_1920s/

There's our old friends, the 'mystery-column' and Phelps-Terkel, toward the bottom.

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[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Yes, this is a huge fascinating place. Above the main floor are other floors called the Labyrinth with other book sections and another one of small art shops and the like. Really worth looking at other photos of it online if not in person. Here's a couple photos from the site:







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These photos reveal just how useless many books are these days. Here they use them for architectural details and joke-time amusement.

[ethereal_reality]

Previously I had asked:

"Does anyone know what the interior looks like today."

Originally Posted by broadwy_central_bldg

The interior today is occupied by the Last Bookstore. It looks like this:


Source: The Last Bookstore's website

Thanks for answering my question broadway_central_bldg.
I knew about the Last Bookstore but I didn't realize it was in this building. So now I'm doubly impressed.

As I was looking at Hoss's photographs again, I noticed something


detail / Shulman

The metal bands wrapped around the columns really bother me for some reason. As far as I can tell, they're there just to hang flags.

Since they no doubt knew Mr. Shulman was coming, they could have at least hung up the flags, or better yet, take off the metal bands.

Just thought I'd share. (I'm usually not so nick-picky )
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Lap-band surgery comes to mind.

[ethereal_reality]

I could be wrong, but I don't believe we have seen this truly remarkable photograph on NLA before.

"Pacific Electric streetcar on Hill Street on the south side of the Subway Terminal building."


https://www.pinterest.com/pin/73746512623209543/ uncanny.net

So what building is the Van de Kamps in?

-also note the old stairway going up to the second level at far right.
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That reminds me, I need to buy some butter.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

These photos reveal just how useless many books are these days. Here they use them for architectural details and joke-time amusement.

I am glad you enjoyed them, CBD.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I could be wrong, but I don't believe we have seen this truly remarkable photograph on NLA before.

"Pacific Electric streetcar on Hill Street on the south side of the Subway Terminal building."


https://www.pinterest.com/pin/73746512623209543/ uncanny.net

So what building is the Van de Kamps in?

Van de Kamps was in the Hill Street Terminal Market.

Originally Posted by HossC

www.martinturnbull.com

[Earl Boebert]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

These photos reveal just how useless many books are these days. Here they use them for architectural details and joke-time amusement.

And filed by color of dust jacket. Oh, well, in the 1960s the Rare Book Room of the Stanford Library filed their volumes by size.

Cheers,

Earl

[HossC]

This is the 1969 Wilshire Christian Manor at 616 S Normandie Avenue, photographed the year after its completion by Julius Shulman. It's "Job 4652: Robert E. Donald, Wilshire Christian Manor (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1970".
NB. Just for a change, I've omitted the color image from this set. It's a similar angle to the first black & white picture.



This shot is looking south, with Wilshire Boulevard in the distance.



The set includes these two interior photos.





All from Getty Research Institute

Apart from the trees at the front, not much has changed.


GSV

PS. Thanks for yesterday's suggestion, Earl Boebert, but closing my Gmail window hasn't helped my uploads or previews.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert

And filed by color of dust jacket. Oh, well, in the 1960s the Rare Book Room of the Stanford Library filed their volumes by size.

Cheers,
Earl

I think you and CBD are being somewhat, if somewhat is the right word, dismissive of this place, The Last Bookstore, to which I'd like to counter and say that you shouldn't be, IMO.