William Thomas Residence | ? | 21 fl | Complete

thomax · #1 Posted **Oct 18, 2013, 8:08 PM**

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Built in 1855, the original William Thomas Building came down in 2010 as part of the renewal of the Lister Block. The four-storey William Thomas building will be reassembled, with 16 storeys of condos added on top.

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- $35 million, 200,000-square-foot development

- Ground floor retail

- Three floors of office space

- About 100 residential units in total

- Sales centre and campaign in place for March or April

- Construction planned to begin in Fall 2014

[LINK] Location in Google Street View

[LINK] CBC Hamilton: Developer to rebuild Lister's neighbour, stack a condo on top

[LINK] raisethehammer.org: Hi-Rise Group Announces Details for Lister Tower

thomax · #2 Posted **Oct 18, 2013, 8:12 PM**

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the905sDW · #3 Posted **Oct 18, 2013, 8:17 PM**

Nice to see new development....and some more height!
There are now quite a few options being built for residential downtown.

This on looks pretty good! I hope it gets built. Will be nice to see some more polished renderings as well. We don't have many of the typical glass and steel condo style buildings in the city, so this one is welcome!

Beedok · #4 Posted **Oct 18, 2013, 8:23 PM**

Wait, then which one is the 16 storey one?

mattgrande · #5 Posted **Oct 18, 2013, 9:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Beedok

Wait, then which one is the 16 storey one?

The old William Thomas Building was four stories. They are adding sixteen stories of residential above that, for a total of 20.

Beedok · #6 Posted **Oct 18, 2013, 9:31 PM**

Ah, okay.

Hoping all these proposals get Hamilton competitive with Winnipeg.

ScreamingViking · #7 Posted **Oct 19, 2013, 12:32 AM**

This is awesome! I've been wondering about the Thomas building too, and was not expecting this kind of announcement this soon (in truth, I figured it would quietly go away to be forgotten, like the former Robinson's and RBC sites on James and so many other lots)

James St. N may just become one of the most eclectic urban streets in Canada.

Katrillion · #8 Posted **Oct 19, 2013, 4:16 AM**

What happened to the building beside the Lister Block on King William?

CaptainKirk · #9 Posted **Oct 19, 2013, 4:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by Katrillion

What happened to the building beside the Lister Block on King William?

Collapse in 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB-6Sp7mKlQ

matt602 · #10 Posted **Oct 19, 2013, 9:40 PM**

That was the Balfour building. LIUNA saved some pieces of the facade from that one too. They were sitting in a pile behind the Thomas building for awhile. No idea if they still have them or intend to do anything with them though. They didn't save nearly as much of the building as they did from the Thomas building since the Balfour was in pretty crappy shape.

ScreamingViking · #11 Posted **Oct 20, 2013, 5:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by matt602

That was the Balfour building. LIUNA saved some pieces of the facade from that one too. They were sitting in a pile behind the Thomas building for awhile. No idea if they still have them or intend to do anything with them though. They didn't save nearly as much of the building as they did from the Thomas building since the Balfour was in pretty crappy shape.

I wonder if this development will have an extension that fronts King William. That gap needs filling, and perhaps they'd incorporate the material they kept.

SteelTown · #12 Posted **Oct 20, 2013, 7:33 PM**

Yes, I believe the condo tower stretches from James to Hughson, so it'll likely fill in the former Balfour building.

davidcappi · #13 Posted **Oct 27, 2013, 10:51 AM**

What I'd love even more is if something was built on the corner lot beside the Lister Block. That parking lot is one of the ugliest things in the city. But that's the talk of dreams. It'll be a while before anything ends up in that lot. Just happy something is going in this spot! That stretch between King and James, and Wilson and James needs some life breathed into it.

CaptainKirk · #14 Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 12:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by davidcappi

What I'd love even more is if something was built on the corner lot beside the Lister Block. That parking lot is one of the ugliest things in the city. But that's the talk of dreams. It'll be a while before anything ends up in that lot. Just happy something is going in this spot! That stretch between King and James, and Wilson and James needs some life breathed into it.

Loved the old Zellers building.

coalminecanary · #15 Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 12:53 PM**

The city should raise taxes on parking lots. Then these ugly problems would solve themselves.

Beedok · #16 Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 1:05 PM**

Definitely.

Dr Awesomesauce · #17 Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 2:11 PM**

Land value taxation.

ScreamingViking · #18 Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 7:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by coalminecanary

The city should raise taxes on parking lots. Then these ugly problems would solve themselves.

But that would harm the parking lot industry! And where will anyone park for mere dollars a day? Who will want to come downtown??

(though I guess nobody will be coming downtown anyway with all this congestion being caused by the bus lane

)

Paul V · #19 Posted **Nov 6, 2013, 10:15 PM**

I really hope the William Thomas units are affordable. Is $250 per sq ft reasonable to expect?

Innsertnamehere · #20 Posted **Nov 6, 2013, 10:20 PM**

^probably not, $300 is around minimum for condos to pull a profit. $120 - $150 is the usual construction cost ($180-$200 in Toronto)