[Halifax] Pavilion (YMCA) and Curve | 2X49 m | 17 & 15 fl | Completed - Page 44

eastcoastal · #**861** Posted **Sep 18, 2018, 3:08 PM**

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Really sad that this one is topped out. For such a prominent (and well designed) project, it just seems so stubby for it's mass. Would love to see another 10+ stories on it.

I don't mind a strong "edge" to the park at this location. I think it suits this part of the city. I would like to see judicious introduction of a couple point towers between Citadel Hill and the water's edge though.

While I'm not a fan of the street experience of the Convention Centre, I think the towers are a nice addition to the skyline from a distance.

DT Hfx · #**862** Posted **Sep 18, 2018, 8:29 PM**

The Curve is actually 16 stories high. The setback after the sixth floor and the angle of the photos makes the 7th floor sort of disappear.

Curve topping out at 16 floors. Pavilion working on the 5th (the top of the podium) by DwN~toWN Halifax, on Flickr

someone123 · #**863** Posted **Oct 20, 2018, 5:13 PM**

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kph06 · #**864** Posted **Dec 16, 2018, 1:32 PM**

The shorter of the two cranes was removed yesterday.

DT Hfx · #**865** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 3:25 PM**

Pavilion condos on left, Curve apts on right by DwN~toWN Halifax, on Flickr

..glass going in on 1st level (4th fl) of Pavilion condos

..construction is at 9th fl

Jonovision · #**866** Posted **Jan 17, 2019, 4:29 PM**

First piece of coloured glazing has gone up on the curve.

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Jonovision · #**867** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 5:24 PM**

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Jonovision · #**868** Posted **Mar 21, 2019, 3:41 PM**

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q12 · #**869** Posted **Apr 6, 2019, 12:46 PM**

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JET · #**870** Posted **Apr 9, 2019, 1:50 PM**

The traffic on that block is going to be nuts, it's bad now with all the people entering and leaving the current places.

Keith P. · #**871** Posted **Apr 9, 2019, 2:34 PM**

Makes one wonder how other much larger, denser cities can even function!

someone123 · #**872** Posted **Apr 9, 2019, 5:27 PM**

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Makes one wonder how other much larger, denser cities can even function!

I live in a suburban condo development that has a driveway serving about 600 residents. Usually I'm the only one leaving at rush hour. Sometimes there's one car in front of me. A 2 car wait is a freak occurrence.

Even if every person living here left in their own car between 8 and 9 a.m., that would only be a car every 6 seconds. In practice it's far less than this at peak. Probably a car a minute or so, and a car every 3-5 minutes off peak during the day.

A downtown development like this is going to be even lower. Many of the residents don't work or commute (e.g. retirees, work from home), and many of the commuters will walk to work.

Adding density tends to reduce the modal share of car traffic too. Part of the point of living in the SGR area is that you don't need to drive everywhere.

OldDartmouthMark · #**873** Posted **Apr 9, 2019, 7:07 PM**

I think JET was referring to the fact that it is already a traffic tie-up spot during rush hour. I have had many trials of turning left from South Park into the condo complex or the Lord Nelson Parkade mid-afternoon and exiting those same places during that time period. Patience is required.

There is a potential for further tie-ups due to the already large traffic flows, but to be fair, part of the backup is due to one lane being closed due to construction, which will obviously be remedied when the building is occupied.

Overall, I don't see it as having a huge net-effect on the situation, and I expect that future residents shouldn't be shocked that it will be busy getting into and out of a more-dense downtown neighborhood, a reasonable trade-off for the location.

worldlyhaligonian · #**874** Posted **Apr 10, 2019, 3:12 AM**

The point of having one of these places is to walk to work... who would drive downtown from that proximity?

OldDartmouthMark · #**875** Posted **Apr 10, 2019, 12:41 PM**

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The point of having one of these places is to walk to work... who would drive downtown from that proximity?

Presumably they would drive when they go to areas other than downtown.

Keith P. · #**876** Posted **Apr 10, 2019, 1:59 PM**

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Presumably they would drive when they go to areas other than downtown.

Which would probably not be during morning or evening rush hour. The traffic argument is usually a red herring, one closely related to the ever-popular "It's TOO TALL!!!".

worldlyhaligonian · #**877** Posted **Apr 10, 2019, 2:16 PM**

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Presumably they would drive when they go to areas other than downtown.

I'm half joking, but there is no reason to leave the peninsula.

Downtown is lacking a proper grocery store, though. Has one been added in the new Scotia Square?

worldlyhaligonian · #**878** Posted **Apr 10, 2019, 2:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

Whic would probably not be during morning or evening rush hour. The traffic argument is usually a red herring, one closely related to the ever-popular "It's TOO TALL!!!".

You're right on this one Keith.

someone123 · #**879** Posted **Apr 10, 2019, 3:31 PM**

Another problem with the idea that developments like this cause traffic is that they have little impact on the overall demand for housing. In other words, if people don't move here they will move somewhere else in the metro area. Most of the alternatives to a development like this are more suburban and car-oriented. If you are worried about cars on the peninsula, encouraging people to live in the suburbs is probably not a great strategy.

OldDartmouthMark · #**880** Posted **Apr 10, 2019, 6:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by worldlyhaligonian

I'm half joking, but there is no reason to leave the peninsula.

Downtown is lacking a proper grocery store, though. Has one been added in the new Scotia Square?

Likewise, I was half joking as well, and I agree that you wouldn't have to drive very much if you lived there. Regarding groceries, as far as I know nothing of the sort has moved to Scotia Square (though it would be nice), but Pete's is closeby (Pete's is now owned by Sobeys btw), so residents could get most of their grocery needs there I think. There is the Superstore down by the train station, but that would be a long way to go carrying groceries, unless you have some decent saddlebags on your bicycle.

That said, there were many people of my grandparents' generation who probably never ventured any further than 10 km from their home, but for many of us not leaving our neighborhood feels very confining, and thus venturing out with the car or other long-distance-capable conveyance is pretty much a must on occasion. As mentioned, however, it probably wouldn't be during rush hours for the most part.