NEW YORK | 343 Madison Avenue | 844 FT | 49 FLOORS - Page 13

Submariner · #**241** Posted **Feb 10, 2021, 4:08 AM**

Jeez...I remember studying in Bryant Park when I first moved here...I'd marvel at BofA...then I got interested watching the Bank of China tower go up...now BofA is a midget compared to what is going up just a few blocks down.

NYer34 · #**242** Posted **Feb 10, 2021, 11:57 AM**

Can't say I see this as a clear positive.

There's a TON of stuff I'd love to see knocked down and rebuilt in NYC.

Pre-war masonry structures with great, classical setbacks and detail are not among them.

I'd love to see every single housing project leveled to the ground and rebuilt with dense, modern construction.

I'd also like us to preserve the dwindling pieces of the city - like the block slated for demo here - that bring elegance, timeless design and a sense of history to the city.

JMKeynes · #**243** Posted **Feb 12, 2021, 1:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Submariner

Jeez...I remember studying in Bryant Park when I first moved here...I'd marvel at BofA...then I got interested watching the Bank of China tower go up...now BofA is a midget compared to what is going up just a few blocks down.

When did you move to NY? The area around Bryant Park was a dump not too long ago. The collection of garbage where Bofa now stands was hideous, as was the northeast corner of 42nd and 5th, where a crappy outdoor flea market stood for many years.

P.S.: KPF does very nice work, so I think something great will rise here.

newyorker · #**244** Posted **Feb 13, 2021, 5:19 PM**

^^

I hardly think the bryant park hotel is a dump.

Aside from looking like it's straight out of Ghostbusters, it's arguably the most beautiful building in the entire city IMO.

JMKeynes · #**245** Posted **Feb 13, 2021, 5:22 PM**

I didn’t say that the Bryant Park Hotel is a dump.

NYguy · #**246** Posted **Feb 13, 2021, 11:17 PM**

OK people, you're going way off. 343 Madison is up for discussion.

FEBRUARY 13, 2021

Submariner · #**247** Posted **Feb 15, 2021, 1:33 AM**

Roughly a 200x200ft block, right?

Visionist · #**248** Posted **Feb 15, 2021, 10:42 PM**

Looking at that picture, I'd rather this block be saved and the Biltmore replacement next door gets replaced instead.

JMKeynes · #**249** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 1:14 AM**

I suspect that this is going to be an amazing tower. I can’t wait to see the design. KPF rarely disappoints.

NYguy · #**250** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 2:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by Submariner

Roughly a 200x200ft block, right?

About half that, only the Madison Avenue frontage.

NYguy · #**251** Posted **Apr 12, 2021, 3:13 AM**

APRIL 10, 2021

JMKeynes · #**252** Posted **Apr 12, 2021, 8:57 AM**

Since the floor plates will be small, I hope that this will be a spec tower catering to hedge funds, etc like 425 Park.

Drcastro · #**253** Posted **Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM**

The more I look at it, the more I appreciate it as a hodgepodge that somehow also seems to all go together. But I certainly understand that its commercial potential as-is is dismal.

Raysiri · #**254** Posted **Apr 12, 2021, 11:51 PM**

Are they starting demolition?

NYguy · #**255** Posted **Apr 13, 2021, 12:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Raysiri

Are they starting demolition?

They're getting ready to. Permits were filed a couple of months ago.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=02

JMKeynes · #**256** Posted **Apr 15, 2021, 10:12 PM**

https://therealdeal.com/2021/04/15/b...=feature_posts

Zapatan · #**257** Posted **Apr 16, 2021, 12:02 AM**

That's exciting, hopefully the design gets a bit more interesting.

JMKeynes · #**258** Posted **Apr 16, 2021, 12:08 AM**

We haven’t seen the design yet. The schematics were clearly labeled “Not actual design.”

NYguy · #**259** Posted **Apr 16, 2021, 5:51 PM**

Shown here with a version of 270 and 175 Park, the tower isn't quite to scale. It would be taller than Chrysler. But it does give an idea of how new construction is booming again in midtown east.

JMKeynes · #**260** Posted **Apr 16, 2021, 6:28 PM**

Whenever that design was shown in presentations, it was always marked “Not Actual Design.”