noirish Los Angeles - Page 872

HossC · #**17421** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 12:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

-more information wanted.

Unfortunately, I don't know the name or the exact address of this noirish looking apartment building so my search capabilities are limited.
It seems vaguely familiar, so perhaps it has been on the thread before (years ago). I'm just not sure.

It's located on the north side of Wilshire Blvd. just east of Devon (Westwood)

GSV

The address is either 10355 or 10357 Wilshire Blvd, and the name is Chateau Colline.

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Chateau Colline is an historic eight-unit apartment building on Wilshire Boulevard in the Westwood section of Los Angeles, California. Designed by architect Percy Parke Lewis, Chateau Colline was built in 1935. Its leaded-glass windows, turrets, and climbing vines give it the appearance of a castle. The building also has large wood-burning fireplaces with handcrafted mantels, bakelite intercoms, vaulted ceilings and outside nooks for milk bottles.[2] The Los Angeles Times has reported that rumor has it that "Clark Gable and Bette Davis once lived there, holding lavish parties in a second-story apartment." - Wikipedia

There's some interior and exterior pictures at la.curbed.com.

Looking at old aerial pictures, the lot next door seems to have been vacant for about 20 years.

HossC · #**17422** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 12:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

no address given

ebay

How would you like to have surgery above a hardware store?

The 1915 City Directory lists an address of 3838 Stephenson Avenue.

rescarta.lapl.org

Stephenson Avenue is now Whittier Boulevard. It looks like this is the same building (with a little remodeling):

GSV

ethereal_reality · #**17423** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 1:41 AM**

-and a gigantic blue paintbrush. The degradation that buildings experience over the years is truly saddening.
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An extra big thanks for the information on Chateau Colline HossC.
-beyond the trees at Chateau Colline

http://la.curbed.com/
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CityBoyDoug · #**17424** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 2:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

The 1915 City Directory lists an address of 3838 Stephenson Avenue.

rescarta.lapl.org

Stephenson Avenue is now Whittier Boulevard. It looks like this is the same building (with a little remodeling):

GSV

I don't see any earthquake reinforcing which mean this old building probably has a steel frame. Also, the windows have been replaced which mean they were rotted out and probably infested with termites.

ER...But my teeth hurt when I look at that paint job....ouch. ouch.

Lwize · #**17425** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 3:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

-and a gigantic blue paintbrush. The degradation that buildings experience over the years is truly saddening.

The building is only a restoration away from returning to its former glory (OK, not likely gonna happen). But at least the building is still there and in use.

Krell58 · #**17426** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 9:35 AM**

Two screencaps from a new IFC movie called "Maniac", it's about an LA serial killer.

2nd St. Tunnel

Noir Alley

Wig-Wag · #**17427** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 3:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I don't see any earthquake reinforcing which mean this old building probably has a steel frame. Also, the windows have been replaced which mean they were rotted out and probably infested with termites.

ER...But my teeth hurt when I look at that paint job....ouch. ouch.

CBD, your comment on the building having a steel frame can be verified in the black & white photo where I-beams are visible between the first and second stories. They are somewhat less prominent in its wonderful current livery ; > ).

Cheers,
Jack

BifRayRock · #**17428** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 3:56 PM**

Recent Hardware Store posts (e.g., http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17379 ) begets adding to the potpourri.

1885 - Munger & Griffith Hardware, 19 East Colorado Blvd.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics31/00035281.jpg

1899 - Sackett Hotel and Emporium, corner Cahuenga and Hollywood Blvd.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011991.jpg

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Hardware Store of C. Ducommun, dry goods store of S. Prager and a furniture store at 204 N. Main Street (after 1890 at 304 N. Main Street) are shown. Photograph taken between 1870 and 1883. The 1883-4 edition of the city directory lists C. Ducommun Hardware at this location.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics24/00031893.jpg

Burrows & Johnsen hardware store, 3755 S. Vermont Ave (Demolished)

1924 (Can't see enlargement? => http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../id/7484/rec/7

William Nies Plumbing Co. and hardware store, located at 4030 _______ ??
Undated

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066283.jpg

4221 South Vermont Ave - Manual Arts Hardware and Plumbing

1936

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics24/00031847.jpg

1936 - Jimmie West Plumbing store

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics24/00031919.jpg

1948 - Builders Emporium of Van Nuys (before expansion)

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics26/00032904.jpg

Herb E Woodward (Hardware and Ford, Lincoln Mercury - yes, it's been posted before.) (Olympic Blvd in Bev Hills) http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1057
1942

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics34/00066510.jpg

BifRayRock · #**17429** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 4:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Retired_in_Texas

Wow, these photos of the "Princes" of Hot Rodding really bring back memories. Most people have no idea of the contributions these guys made to the automobile industry as they chased performance and speed.

For example: Ed Iskendarian invented and patented the hydraulic roller lifter and flat lobe cams in the mid 1950s. Products commonly used from that point forward by Drag Racers but totally ignored by the American automobile industry until the late 1980s. Today there probably isn't an automobile engine produced anywhere that doesn't utilize those innovative designs.

A few years ago when restoring a 1958 Mercury I decided to put an Isky roller cam into its 430 c.i. MEL block engine and had a number of conversations with Ed's son Ron, who personally ground the cam I needed for the engine. Long story on getting him to do it since they hadn't produced a cam for the specific engine type for over thirty years. For the non motor head guys, the affect of the cam, lifters, etc.; boosted the horsepower from 375 to 650 and increased fuel efficiency. And now you know the reason why today's smaller engines produce huge amounts of horsepower and use less fuel.

You can probably relate to this undated photo from LAPL. Location is unknown, but because of the source, it was likely taken in So Cal. (Of course, it portrays a scene that could have been virtually anywhere in North America.)

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics34/00066515.jpg

HossC · #**17430** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 5:00 PM**

It looks like the blue paint on the old Schilling building is a fairly recent addition. Although Google and Bing both show the new color, if you take a step back on Bing you can see the more subtle previous paint job:

Bing Streetside

HossC · #**17431** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

William Nies Plumbing Co. and hardware store, located at 4030 _______ ??
Undated

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066283.jpg

Great roundup of hardware stores, BifRayRock. The 1915 City Directory lists the William Nies Plumbing Co. at 4030 South Park Avenue:

rescarta.lapl.org

ethereal_reality · #**17432** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 6:00 PM**

In case anyone is having a hard time deciding what to get me for Christmas.

Los Angeles 1943 Telephone Directory/Extended Area

ebay

ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-World-W...16.m2518.l4276

ethereal_reality · #**17433** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 6:18 PM**

There are a lot of interesting signs in this 'flood' photograph from 1938. An added bonus is the Richfield building looming in the distance.

ebay
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BifRayRock · #**17434** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 6:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

Great roundup of hardware stores, BifRayRock. The 1915 City Directory lists the William Nies Plumbing Co. at 4030 South Park Avenue:

rescarta.lapl.org

Thank you for that kind Directory assist. Had been wondering whether address changed since a cursory search reveals a residential North Park Ave (~Venice), but no South Park.

Maybe Jimmie West knows.

1890-6 Fish Block (YMCA Headquarters 26 (?) East Colorado)

Can't see? Go here => http://collection.pasadenadigitalhis.../id/342/rec/26

1926 - Pasadena Hardware 121 East Union. http://collection.pasadenadigitalhis.../id/137/rec/23

1929 -"Steven Hardware," "Good Fellows Grill," "United Cigar," 2 East Colorado, Pasa.
http://collection.pasadenadigitalhis.../id/307/rec/24

1931 - Washington Hardware - 1403 North Lake Ave

http://collection.pasadenadigitalhis.../id/315/rec/25

As incinerators go, that's a nice one!

HossC · #**17435** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 7:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Had been wondering whether address changed since a cursory search reveals a residential North Park Ave (~Venice), but no South Park.

It had me confused for a while, but it looks like South Park Avenue became South Avalon Boulevard (it goes past South Park) sometime between 1921 and 1928. During my search, I found this business from around the same time and location:

Ebay

The Ebay listing finished back in August, so I had to rely on Google's cached version for the reverse. The text says "Slaterly's Store, South Park Ave., Los Angeles". The seller dated it as 1910s.

Ebay

ethereal_reality · #**17436** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 8:12 PM**

Lorendoc, the seller of this 1913 snapshot has it identified as San Diego.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAN-DIEGO-CA...item5d44acd3fb

-but to me it resembles Lookout Mountain in Los Angeles. You're the LM expert, what do you think?

ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAN-DIEGO-CA...item5d44acd3fb

ethereal_reality · #**17437** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 8:29 PM**

Great collection of hardware store photographs BRR. -and good sleuthing HossC.
Frustratingly, the photos are a jUmbLe to me, so I pieced one together.

I really like the 'traveling' arrows on the facade (must have been striking at night).

http://collection.pasadenadigitalhis.../id/307/rec/24
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ethereal_reality · #**17438** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 8:46 PM**

Crash! -at least they can stucco it over.

ebay
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Martin Pal · #**17439** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 9:03 PM**

I did a perfunctory search and didn't see any posts about them, but has anyone mentioned the film The Outside Man from 1971 or 72 that was shot on location all over L.A. and features remnants of the Pacific Ocean Park in Santa Monica, Sunset Blvd. locations, Beverly Hills, downtown and if I'm not mistaken, aerial shots of the decimated Bunker Hill area, among other things?

Also, it seems the film L.A. PLAYS ITSELF must've been mentioned, but I didn't see it. It's a three hour documentary about Los Angeles locations in film, as the title suggests.

HossC · #**17440** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 9:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Crash! -at least they can stucco it over.

ebay

California Stucco advert from the 1926 City Directory:

rescarta.lapl.org