Sacramento Proposal/Approval/Construction Thread - III - Page 391

kamehameha · #**7801** Posted **Nov 17, 2020, 8:13 PM**

Looks like they're getting busy at the site of the new 18 story courthouse. Just drove by a few minutes ago.

SacTownAndy · #**7802** Posted **Nov 18, 2020, 11:29 PM**

^ Same here. Just drove by. The site is fenced off and crews were working.

SacSFChi · #**7803** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 6:26 PM**

Yep, ground prep on the new courthouse plot started in earnest a few days ago. There is so much activity going on right now from H up to Railyard Ave, and 5th to 7th. This is going to be awesome to watch all of this construction moving forward.

kamehameha · #**7804** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 7:08 PM**

Next stop is the MLS stadium

gillynova · #**7805** Posted **Nov 20, 2020, 9:23 PM**

I'm waiting for the day you guys break ground on the MLS stadium. That would be HUGE for Sac

novatone82 · #**7806** Posted **Nov 22, 2020, 4:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by mindbender

Just got word from a friend involved with the courthouse project. Fencing for the site to be delivered next Monday (16th). G St between 6th and 7th will be blocked off starting Tuesday with construction to follow. Estimating a 36mo construction schedule.

There was a slight debate about how tall this court house is going to be , does your friend or you have any details on height ? according to Sac county web site its going to be 270 feet 18 stories , some say 365 feet 18 stories , I even seen a article saying it was going to be 16 stories and one at 17 stories ?

mindbender · #**7807** Posted **Nov 23, 2020, 4:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by novatone82

There was a slight debate about how tall this court house is going to be , does your friend or you have any details on height ? according to Sac county web site its going to be 270 feet 18 stories , some say 365 feet 18 stories , I even seen a article saying it was going to be 16 stories and one at 17 stories ?

"Building is approx. 537,000 square feet - 18 stories including the mechanical floor - 11 elevators - 53 courtrooms." Is what she sent me.

I'll see if I can find out the height.

downtownserg89 · #**7808** Posted **Nov 23, 2020, 7:36 AM**

Do we have any other angles of this courthouse? I've only seen that one main rendering that's facing south with the other courthouse lurking in the back. What do the other sides look like? Looking forward to the new addition to our skyline, even if it's just a stubby building.

SacSFChi · #**7809** Posted **Nov 23, 2020, 5:47 PM**

... and the excavation for the new courthouse has begun!

kamehameha · #**7810** Posted **Nov 24, 2020, 6:57 PM**

Have you guys heard anything about the two proposed mix use highrises that suppose to start construction before the end of the year?
15 storey Canopy Hotel
15 storey 10th and K by Mohana

TWAK · #**7811** Posted **Nov 24, 2020, 7:00 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindbender

"Building is approx. 537,000 square feet - 18 stories including the mechanical floor - 11 elevators - 53 courtrooms." Is what she sent me.

I'll see if I can find out the height.

Aren't the ceilings higher for courthouses, so that's why there have been different heights?

enigma99a · #**7812** Posted **Nov 24, 2020, 7:20 PM**

The renders show it similar in height to the federal courthouse. So we'll see

SacTownAndy · #**7813** Posted **Nov 24, 2020, 9:26 PM**

The Federal Courthouse is what 16-17 floors at 350ft. Unless the floor heights are going to be much lower, I can't imagine the new building being much shorter than the existing courthouse. But who knows...

innov8 · #**7814** Posted **Nov 24, 2020, 11:04 PM**

Section 3.1 in the New Sacramento Courthouse Addendum from March 2018
has it at 270'. Those renderings are deceiving, it does look to be at the height of the Fed. court house.

https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/...dum-1-of-2.pdf

mindbender · #**7815** Posted **Nov 24, 2020, 11:43 PM**

My contact associated with the project says the current height is ~302ft, but she didn't specify if that is to the roof, or the parapet, or the mechanicals.

Pistola916 · #**7816** Posted **Nov 25, 2020, 12:09 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindbender

My contact associated with the project says the current height is ~302ft, but she didn't specify if that is to the roof, or the parapet, or the mechanicals.

Great, we'll never know what the official height is. J/K.

Also, I haven't seen a single rendering of what the south facade looks like. I believe that would be the H street perspective. is there one?

urbanadvocate · #**7817** Posted **Nov 25, 2020, 5:06 PM**

With all the mixed information for this building I have a feeling it is not going to look like the renders but will now be totally different. The renderings made the 365' make sense but if we are talking 300' or so it is not going to look like that. Mystery high-rise!

CAGeoNerd · #**7818** Posted **Nov 25, 2020, 5:21 PM**

I have a feeling it's going to end up looking like the building that went up in Stockton, just a big ugly monolith. Stockton had a cute old skyline now that thing dwarfs it and makes everything else look tiny (not that would happen here).. but it's the first building you'll see well if you're coming into town from the airport.. so hopefully not a monstrosity.

SacTownAndy · #**7819** Posted **Nov 25, 2020, 11:37 PM**

So I did a little research. Totally non-scientific. The new county courthouse in Stockton is 13 floors/243ft. The new county courthouse in San Diego is 22 floors/403ft. The ~300ft estimate mindbender gave us sounds just about right with 18 floors assuming all three projects have similar floor heights.

Also, I was able to find a southern facing rendering at the website below from Clark Construction. If this is what is still the plan, I think that looks pretty nice. At the bottom of the page, check out rendering 11/12.

http://www.sacramentocourthouseconstruction.com

urbanadvocate · #**7820** Posted **Nov 26, 2020, 4:37 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by innov8

Section 3.1 in the New Sacramento Courthouse Addendum from March 2018
has it at 270'. Those renderings are deceiving, it does look to be at the height of the Fed. court house.

https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/...dum-1-of-2.pdf

I feel like this is a typo or error. Says 18 stories and 270' under the modifications. This would mean less then 15ft floor to floor if you take into account a taller ground floor, mechanical screen etc. Between structure (3ft at least), mechanical (3ft), electrical and ceiling material (1ft max) etc you would have ceiling heights that are too low--less than 8ft.