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Old Posted May 5, 2021, 10:41 PM
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Nothing really new to see at the CB5 meeting as far as renderings, pretty much the same from the CP presentation...


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7. This one is new, you can see the cantilever over the vent building...






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9. Some on site work already done....







10. In this photo, behind the blue wall is where the escalators down from street level will meet the concourse...






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I'd rather see architectural screening above the MTA vent building that looks like part of the tower than the obvious open cantilever as shown. I don't like how that looks next to the Yale Club at all.
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^ Yes, but the drone fly-through opportunities for action movies might outweigh the aesthetic trade-off...
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It's boxy and glass but at least it's an interesting boxy glass design.
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It’s kind of like 110 N Wacker in Chicago, but even lamer because the E-W facade of that tower is faceted at least.
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It's like they did the massing study and called it a day.
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It's boxy and glass but at least it's an interesting boxy glass design.
With spectacular 1 Vandy, Chrysler, and planned Grand Hyatt, maybe a plain box on this site may better balance the skyline here.
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It's like they did the massing study and called it a day.
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With spectacular 1 Vandy, Chrysler, and planned Grand Hyatt, maybe a plain box on this site may better balance the skyline here.
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It's boxy and glass but at least it's an interesting boxy glass design.

Well, as an office tower, on this small site, it was obviously always going to be a box. In fact, some of the waivers are to make the building more boxy than standard zoning would allow. Personally, I would have loved a tower that rose straight up without any setbacks on this site. You are never going to get a "Chrysler" built in todays office market, the demands for floorspace are too different, even if the goals are the same - lease office space.

And sure, these preliminary renderings aren't flushed out in great detail, but you can already see some of it. As it is with boxy buildings, the details are always in the facade. Yes, we could have gotten another blue, glass box, but they aren't really building those on the east side (not yet).

This building reminds me of another in the area, the Mobil building on 42nd, in that the treatment of the facade is one of its distinguishing features.




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I'm not sure of the materials being used here, but lets just say they've used terra cotta






Also in today's market, the mandatory terrace levels, which I'm sure will be every bit as spectacular as those on 425 Park, and also add a distinguishable feature to the tower.


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The side core, which isn't new to buildings in the city, gets a treatment here that is likely to be lit as well. If we have to have it, at least let it be a plus to the design.



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I hate it when developers refuse to show one side of their building. It seems we are in for another massive hideous mechanical shart. I mean shaft. I blame Norman Foster for this trend. That guy can suck it
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I hate it when developers refuse to show one side of their building. It seems we are in for another massive hideous mechanical shart. I mean shaft. I blame Norman Foster for this trend. That guy can suck it
Honestly the side core is the most interesting part of this building. I don't quite understand the hate for them in all these threads. In a world where every new office is a glass curtain wall, its nice to have another element & material in these designs.
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Will this supertall have subway entrances/exits underneath it?
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I hate it when developers refuse to show one side of their building. It seems we are in for another massive hideous mechanical shart. I mean shaft. I blame Norman Foster for this trend. That guy can suck it
As I've said, this isn't new. You can't blame Foster for it. If anything, blame real estate development, which seeks more desirable floor plates. But, that is why these towers are built in the first place.


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Honestly the side core is the most interesting part of this building. I don't quite understand the hate for them in all these threads. In a world where every new office is a glass curtain wall, its nice to have another element & material in these designs.
This one in particular will be a nice addition because it's not just a blank wall. Even the 425 Park shaft isn't that bad.



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Will this supertall have subway entrances/exits underneath it?
See earlier posts above for transit connections in great detail.
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