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Old Posted Nov 14, 2008, 9:44 PM
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Good news from the Ancaster Business Park today:

http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/466633
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HA imagine the coffee roasting smell in that area in a few years
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Mixed feelings here. While it is always nice to see a major tenant arrive, many people tend to overlook the environmental impact of a industrial coffee roasting facility. If the oven's chimney is not equipped with appropriate brush filtering, the roasting can release significant amounts of fine particulate matter.
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Mixed feelings here. While it is always nice to see a major tenant arrive, many people tend to overlook the environmental impact of a industrial coffee roasting facility. If the oven's chimney is not equipped with appropriate brush filtering, the roasting can release significant amounts of fine particulate matter.
would that be the same 'fine particulate matter' as all the cars driving to the new MEC?
JUST KIDDING! Lol. I couldn't resist.

Yea, based on that description posted above by Fair Hamilton they will be doing a lot more than roasting coffee.
I guess whenever you attract industrial tenants it's expected that some pollution will come with them. Let's hope the city enforces the best standards possible for this place.
Let's also hope that the city puts the environmental commissioner in place soon. Lord knows the provincial body is useless with virtually nobody enforcing their environmental regulations.
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All the pastry and donuts are done in Brantford, we could of had that factory but we lost to Brantford.

So it's likely this will just be for roasting coffee beans.
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SteelTown--Brantford parbakes the pastry and dough products on TDL's behalf--at last count TDL didn't own that facility or the company which operates it.

This operation setting up shop in Ancaster makes fillings, icings, etc (and is TDL owned)--which are added in-store and not in Brantford. Moreover, they have apparently assumed responsiblity for coffee roasting--which it sounds like Ancaster will be responsible for--with perhaps an eye on expansion--ultimately bringing the rest of the opreation down from Oakville...considering the size of the parcel they've acquired.
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the city owns these lands right?? So that $1.8 million purchase price is paid to the city??
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would that be the same 'fine particulate matter' as all the cars driving to the new MEC?
JUST KIDDING! Lol. I couldn't resist.
Oh yeah, all that new traffic on the QEW heading to MEC Burlington is going to have such an impact I'd bet they're going to double the lane capacity and add another span to the skyway. Environment Canada will likely have an emissions testing van parked in their lot too.

In the future try thinking before posting garbage like this. And give the MEC thing a rest. I seem to recall a poster recently commenting about how tiresome it is to have someone moan on about the same old stuff all the time in every thread...
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bro...it was a joke. I even put a huge 'JUST KIDDING' so our anal mods would realize. no worries.
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Now lets just bring home the Head Office from Oakville.
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realcity--a nice sentiment--hell it would be great to bring the TDL headquarters to Hamilton. Nonetheless, "Home" for TDL from a corporate standpoint has always been Oakville...so in essence, a move to Hamilton would mean TDL leaving home as opposed to coming home.
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...but from a Ron Joyce/Tim Hortons standpoint, Hamilton is home.
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^ especially since when the first Tim Horton's opened in 1964, Oakville on maps was referred to as Mimico ....

I have a map from 1961 of Canada. It shows Toronto and Hamilton and between -- Mimico -- no Oakville, no Burlington and no Mississauga (even Brampton was labeled). So basically Tim Horton's corp. is older then Oakville...

but who cares about that? Tim Horton's was founded in Hamilton. It's home office should be in Hamilton. or at a minimum some kind of office, if only for respect.
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Must be an interesting map...Mimico is significantly further east and is part of Etobicoke. Moreover, the original Town of Oakville was founded in 1827...a few years prior to TDL.

I know I've given the short version of TDL's history in Oakville before--that being that Oakville was chosen in part for it's highway access...and in the 1970s...the relatively low cost of land. More importantly Joyce and Horton chose it because it was approximately the halfway point between Joyce's home in Aldershot and Horton's in Don Mills.
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I'll scan it. it's from an encyclopedia. I know where Mimico is, there's a GO stop named for it. West of Etobicoke and one stop west of Port Credit, it's Mississauga.

I repeat:: but who cares about that? Tim Horton's was founded in Hamilton. It's home office should be in Hamilton.

Tim Horton died in 1968 (four years after the first location), Oakville was still irrelevant then. After Horton's death all the locations were in Hamilton and Ron Joyce didn't need a halfway point anymore after 1968.

I repeat:: but who cares about that? Tim Horton's was founded in Hamilton. It's home office should be in Hamilton.
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I'll scan it. it's from an encyclopedia. I know where Mimico is, there's a GO stop named for it. West of Etobicoke and one stop west of Port Credit, it's Mississauga.

I repeat:: but who cares about that? Tim Horton's was founded in Hamilton. It's home office should be in Hamilton.

Tim Horton died in 1968 (four years after the first location), Oakville was still irrelevant then. After Horton's death all the locations were in Hamilton and Ron Joyce didn't need a halfway point anymore after 1968.

I repeat:: but who cares about that? Tim Horton's was founded in Hamilton. It's home office should be in Hamilton.
The chain's first shop was located it in Hamilton, but that does not necessarily mean it was "founded" there. I don't see why the head office "should" be in Hamilton.

The United States of America was "founded" in Philadelphia, but that is no longer the country's capital city.

Conferences that led up to Canada's Confederation took place in a number of cities, but Ottawa was not one of them.

McMaster University was "founded" in Toronto.

Boeing moved its headquarters from Seattle to Chicago a few years ago.

There is a nice little display case in the Ottawa Street store. I don't think that the company "should" be obligated to set up anything in Hamilton beyond that.
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The chain's first shop was located it in Hamilton, but that does not necessarily mean it was "founded" there. I don't see why the head office "should" be in Hamilton.

The United States of America was "founded" in Philadelphia, but that is no longer the country's capital city.

Conferences that led up to Canada's Confederation took place in a number of cities, but Ottawa was not one of them.

McMaster University was "founded" in Toronto.

Boeing moved its headquarters from Seattle to Chicago a few years ago.

There is a nice little display case in the Ottawa Street store. I don't think that the company "should" be obligated to set up anything in Hamilton beyond that.
And I'm sure if TDL could've pulled out of that location by now they would've. It just has sentimental value.
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The chain's first shop was located it in Hamilton, but that does not necessarily mean it was "founded" there. I don't see why the head office "should" be in Hamilton.
LOL....so now you're telling us that Hortons WASN'T founded in Hamilton???
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LOL....so now you're telling us that Hortons WASN'T founded in Hamilton???
I was almost ready to refute this somehow, but I really can't argue with "The Tim Hortons chain was founded in 1964 in Hamilton, Ontario."
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