Northern Ontario developments!

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by yotajoe

And Ottawa?..

Personally I would love for the arena to be downtown and I was a fan of the plan that was revealed by the architecture firm. I know council is allowing a presentation to hear them out but thats a huge stretch. KED is way closer to reality in my opinion thats why I'm okay with it. I also don't think a casino would be bad either, but of course it would be way better downtown..

Ottawa want's to move theirs downtown.

Can anyone show me an arena or other sports stadium that is built next to the local garbage dump?

Originally Posted by DavefromSt.Vital

Ottawa is in an awful location. They want to move closer to downtown just as Edmonton has done.

I like the reno proposal. Pushing out the envelope of the building to make a proper upper concourse with real concessions makes sense. Whichever proposal is chosen, something needs to happen. I have been to every OHL arena and I would have to say that Sudbury would be about the second worst in-arena experience. (Nothing compares to Flint). The tiny concourses, lack of concessions, lack of accessibility, the stench from the visiting team's dressing room, etc.

Not sure what the resistance is to parking garages. Many OHL arenas are adjacent to one (Saginaw, Guelph, London, Erie, Niagara, Ottawa, Hamilton, etc.)

The resistance is that the idea of building something that would make us a "big city" scares most people. The hilarious part is they think the KED parking will be free and close.

Originally Posted by yotajoe

Money is the problem, Sudbury is pretty much all hard rock and that makes it really expensive for site prep and excavation. Parking garages just increase that cost way more.

If they would move the rail yard outside the city that would solve the parking problem until the core grows.

Sudbury is not all hard rock, but I forgive you for thinking that. In fact, downtown is basically a swamp that has been filled in. Junction Creek runs directly under Tom Davis Square.

The lot that is at the corner of Brady and Minto could easily be turned into a parking garage and fit enough for the arena on it's own.

Taking the yard out of Sudbury is not going to happen. You are talking billions of dollars for very little return for CP. Billions of dollars could make a hell of a lot of large parking garages around the downtown core.

[yotajoe]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Ottawa want's to move theirs downtown.

Can anyone show me an arena or other sports stadium that is built next to the local garbage dump?

That's why I said Ottawa, it's literally right beside the West Carleton Landfill.

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Sudbury is not all hard rock, but I forgive you for thinking that. In fact, downtown is basically a swamp that has been filled in. Junction Creek runs directly under Tom Davis Square.

Do you have a bedrock elevation map of the area? I don't doubt the downtown area is a filled swamp but if you've seen any sort of excavation downtown they usually need to blast past 10 feet. Even if they don't need to blast I bet that soil is very unstable, kind of like the same situation as what Ottawa had with byward and the O-Train. IMO the best option for now is an above ground parking garage with multiple levels or they could add lots of underground parking if they move ahead with the junction.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by yotajoe

That's why I said Ottawa, it's literally right beside the West Carleton Landfill.



Do you have a bedrock elevation map of the area? I don't doubt the downtown area is a filled swamp but if you've seen any sort of excavation downtown they usually need to blast past 10 feet. Even if they don't need to blast I bet that soil is very unstable, kind of like the same situation as what Ottawa had with byward and the O-Train. IMO the best option for now is an above ground parking garage with multiple levels or they could add lots of underground parking if they move ahead with the junction.

When they built the new Beer Store on Lorn near Elm, they used a pile driver and there were times when it would fall down quicker than normal.

[Dengler Avenue]

I wonder if this will help with the bedrock part of things:
http://www.geologyontario.mndmf.gov....2544/M2544.pdf
For depth, check the google terrain map. Once you zoom in enough without the terrain contours disappearing, the increment is every 20 m. (It becomes 40 m if you don’t zoom in enough.)

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

I wonder if this will help with the bedrock part of things:
http://www.geologyontario.mndmf.gov....2544/M2544.pdf
For depth, check the google terrain map. Once you zoom in enough without the terrain contours disappearing, the increment is every 20 m. (It becomes 40 m if you don’t zoom in enough.)

Only tells the type of bedrock. He is asking about the depth.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Only tells the type of bedrock. He is asking about the depth.

hence google terrain map (though it’s probably useless for any drop of < 20 m)

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

hence google terrain map (though it’s probably useless for any drop of < 20 m)

It does not show where the bedrock is. It shows where the existing top level of soil is.

[Djeffery]

New, and improved rest areas for the north

https://news.ontario.ca/en/backgroun...-area-projects

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Djeffery

New, and improved rest areas for the north

https://news.ontario.ca/en/backgroun...-area-projects

If they are open year round it would be a good start.

[TbayON]

THUNDER BAY

Thunder Bay city council voted to continue moving ahead with demolition of the Victoriaville Mall. The demolition will result in Victoria Ave. being re-opened to traffic. The project will require not only demolition, but facade repairs to the buildings that were closed in, new roadway, sidewalks and underground infrastructure. Sounds like the project will start in 2022.

Southbridge is moving ahead with construction with a new 107500 SF long term care home at Algoma & Clavet St. The building will be 3 stories tall and contain 160 beds.

Fort William First Nation is also pressing ahead with plans to build a long term care home on reserve lands. The project would require financing from higher levels of government to proceed. Band members recently voted in favour of pursuing the project.

[TbayON]

THUNDER BAY

A powersports dealer is moving into the former Union Gas building at the south end of Carrick Street. Renovations are expected to happen first.

OPG is expected to complete the sale of the former Thunder Bay Generating Station this winter. Hopefully it'll result in re-development for another purpose.
https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...tation-2811718

[swimmer_spe]

Ring of Fire

https://www.northernontariobusiness....edium=facebook

Impact Assessment Agency of Canada solicits public feedback to help draft regional impact study's terms of reference

https://iaac-aeic.gc.ca/050/evaluati...edium=referral

[TbayON]

THUNDER BAY

Two rare earth metal companies are teaming up on a proposal to construct a lithium processing plant on Thunder Bay's waterfront. The facility would initially receive material from the Kenora and Beardmore areas, and be scaled up to serve other mining projects. If (and that's a big IF, everything in mining is never certain) the project goes, it would create 100 jobs, and start in 1-2 years time. This would be the first facility of its kind in North America.

The Courtesy Freight warehouse facility on Simpson is going to be undergoing a major facade upgrade.

[vid]

Originally Posted by TbayON

The Courtesy Freight warehouse facility on Simpson is going to be undergoing a major facade upgrade.

It's about time, it's covered in asbestos tiles. The work started last week. They just need to close the facility honestly, the fact that we're allowing food products to even crossdock at that facility is horrifying.

[TbayON]

THUNDER BAY

Finally some movement on bringing the former Eaton's building back to life in downtown P.A. The building was purchased in 2019 by local investors. Sounds like there are some other possible tenants lined up. Fairly confident this will be successful based on the connections involved.
https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...ilding-3134663

Matawa First Nations will be beginning some renovations to their recently acquired Algoma St. building this winter (former Dawson Court building).

We should know early in the new year who will be building the new Indoor Sports Facility in Chapples Park.

[TbayON]

THUNDER BAY

A new Japanese chain restaurant is going into the Brentwood Mall on Arthur St. The back section of the mall that used to be home to a small Shoppers has been subdivided into small units in hopes of getting the space rented out finally. There is/was apparently another restaurant chain looking at moving in as well.

BMO is closing two existing Thunder Bay branches and will be combining them into one branch to be constructed in the County Fair area. Exact location isn't be revealed yet. Supposed to open in 2022.

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by TbayON

THUNDER BAY

A new Japanese chain restaurant is going into the Brentwood Mall on Arthur St. The back section of the mall that used to be home to a small Shoppers has been subdivided into small units in hopes of getting the space rented out finally. There is/was apparently another restaurant chain looking at moving in as well.

BMO is closing two existing Thunder Bay branches and will be combining them into one branch to be constructed in the County Fair area. Exact location isn't be revealed yet. Supposed to open in 2022.

There aren't many Japanese chain restaurants in Canada so I'm guessing that it's one of the following:

Terriyaki Experience
Edo Japan
Sushi Shop

We have a Sushi Shop in downtown Timmins. It's a Quebec based chain but I've noticed that they have opened some locations in Western Canada including Winnipeg.

[Dengler Avenue]

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...opment-3565922
Thunder Bay and Shuniah spar over the development plan.

[Dengler Avenue]

https://kenoraonline.com/local/fedno...nt-initiatives
Obashkaandagaang (off Kenora): $270K
Machin (Vermillion Bay): $258,458
Dryden: $245.1K
Does FedNor actually help?

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...opment-3565922
Thunder Bay and Shuniah spar over the development plan.

Building anything substantial anywhere in Shuniah would be an absolute disaster for all residents downhill of it. Everyone living on the lake is already drinking their own shit and the shit of everyone living uphill of them, now imagine drinking all of the shit and chemicals put into the groundwater from by the septic system and parking lot of a Costco!

I don't think Shuniah is really putting any consideration or care into the quality of life and health of its residents if they want to be pulling off anything like this. The ground water along the lake shore is heavily contaminated as it is and every development plan the municipality puts forward seems hell bent on making it worse. I'm glad I don't live there.