NEW YORK | 270 Park Ave | 1,389 FT | 57 FLOORS

[NewYorkCity76]

Originally Posted by MAC123

From Xing Ling. Yes, it will be massive. Though from a Skyline perspective it will be overshadowed by 175 nearby (and possibly any other massive ones that show up, there are still a lot of sites in prime position to be as tall and dominating as 175 or 1 Vandy)

This is my scenario: 5-7 years from now, once you exit grand central, you'll see One Vanderbilt, MetLife building, and 175 Park immediately dominating over you (and it's kinda funny and cute since Grand Central is like a small boss and the skyscrapers are its bodyguards). Going a little closer to Vanderbilt plaza, bam! To your right, 270 Park all of the sudden grabs your attention due to its prominence. It sort of feels like you're surrounded by a mountain of skyscrapers

I did see a peek of the base of 270 Park this Saturday, and it was huge.

[Raysiri]

I like how you illustrate the way how skyscrapers showed up. Imagine in sunset, when you see 270 Park, boom! There a huge shadow from Tower Fifth covering up 350 Park and some little holes of light remnants from the windows and deck from Tower Fifth like a glitter. Bright red antenna lights from 3 supertalls behind One Vandy and don’t forget that little 343 Madison Avenue with it bright giant white part of it. New York is like a theatre in sunset in 2030.

[NewYorkCity76]

Originally Posted by Raysiri

I like how you illustrate the way how skyscrapers showed up. Imagine in sunset, when you see 270 Park, boom! There a huge shadow from Tower Fifth covering up 350 Park and some little holes of light remnants from the windows and deck from Tower Fifth like a glitter. Bright red antenna lights from 3 supertalls behind One Vandy and don’t forget that little 343 Madison Avenue with it bright giant white part of it. New York is like a theatre in sunset in 2030.

Thank you!

The reason I emphasized 270 Park with the word "bam" is because of how huge and dominating it'll be alongside park avenue. Park Avenue and Madison Avenue will be a sea of supertalls once 350 Park and possibly Tower Fifth is built.

[Raysiri]

Originally Posted by NewYorkCity76

Thank you!

The reason I emphasized 270 Park with the word "bam" is because of how huge and dominating it'll be alongside park avenue. Park Avenue and Madison Avenue will be a sea of supertalls once 350 Park and possibly Tower Fifth is built.

I do know that Tower Fifth will have an observation deck that is the height of the Sears Tower’s roof.

Look at this:

[NewYorkCity76]

Originally Posted by Raysiri

I do know that Tower Fifth will have an observation deck that is the height of the Sears Tower’s roof.

Look at this:

If Tower Fifth were to be built, then we'll have a total of 8 observation decks in the city (including the Chrysler building and 740 8th Avenue)!

Back to 270 Park, here's a link to a build that I've made in Minecraft a few months ago, and it does look dominating from this view.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...42/unknown.png

[NewYorkCity76]

I'm also curious how fast this will rise, whether or not it'll be as fast as One Vanderbilt or the ESB.

Edit: I forgot to mention when I saw a peek of 270 Park on Saturday, I believe I saw the 4th crane installed.

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by NewYorkCity76

If Tower Fifth were to be built, then we'll have a total of 8 observation decks in the city (including the Chrysler building and 740 8th Avenue)! :

If you're only counting "official" observation decks that is. Technically any old rooftop bar could be an observation deck, and NYC has countless.

[NewYorkCity76]

Originally Posted by MAC123

If you're only counting "official" observation decks that is. Technically any old rooftop bar could be an observation deck, and NYC has countless.

Yeah, that I was trying to say. Official ones such as the ESB and 30 Hudson.

[tiger-cali]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Credit: Michael Young via NYY

Am I the only one to think the base support beams don't look big enough to support this massive 1,388 feet tall building? I don't see any concrete core - I would feel more comfortable if there was one. Without the concrete core, the base beams look a bit small, especially when the building lacks the corner vertical beams.

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by tiger-cali

Am I the only one to think the base support beams don't look big enough to support this massive 1,388 feet tall building? I don't see any concrete core - I would feel more comfortable if there was one. Without the concrete core, the base beams look a bit small, especially when the building lacks the corner vertical beams.

1) Everything always looks smaller in pictures than if you're actually standing beside them.
2) Pretty sure that concrete core is impossible to put right here. This building sits right above tracks.

[BK1985]

Originally Posted by tiger-cali

Am I the only one to think the base support beams don't look big enough to support this massive 1,388 feet tall building? I don't see any concrete core - I would feel more comfortable if there was one. Without the concrete core, the base beams look a bit small, especially when the building lacks the corner vertical beams.

I take comfort in the fact that all building plans have been run past structural engineers and various compliance officers. Do you think buildings are just put up without any engineering sign off?

[NYguy]

^ To think, somebody created an account just to post that.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CYXAbjLuMzj/

[TonyNYC]

[QUOTE=NYguy;9501384]^ To think, somebody created an account just to post that.


Yep... for all of us who have seen it in person.. those beams are massive!!

[tiger-cali]

Thanks for sharing your pic. I've been a fan of this skyscraperpage since the birth of 1WTC, checking the page every couple of days for updated pics. I've just recently decided to create an account to ask questions, and apparently a stupid one. LOL Of course I knew the Construction Docs have to go through the whole entire approval process before given the green light to start construction. But before the CD's are submitted, there's a lot of work in the SD/DD Phases as well where every single details are mapped out and studied. From the drawings, 270 Park Avenue looks huge! And when I saw the angular base support, it just looks a little weak. I'm no Structural Engineer - I'm sure those specialist have it all down. But I'm just a little leary about the strength that's all.

[Busy Bee]

Welcome!

[Drcastro]

Originally Posted by tiger-cali

Thanks for sharing your pic. I've been a fan of this skyscraperpage since the birth of 1WTC, checking the page every couple of days for updated pics. I've just recently decided to create an account to ask questions, and apparently a stupid one. LOL Of course I knew the Construction Docs have to go through the whole entire approval process before given the green light to start construction. But before the CD's are submitted, there's a lot of work in the SD/DD Phases as well where every single details are mapped out and studied. From the drawings, 270 Park Avenue looks huge! And when I saw the angular base support, it just looks a little weak. I'm no Structural Engineer - I'm sure those specialist have it all down. But I'm just a little leary about the strength that's all.

Remember, it’s not just a bunch of angled beams. It’s a massive truss structure creating a platform for the building to rest upon.

[UpwithOlives]

Originally Posted by tiger-cali

Thanks for sharing your pic. I've been a fan of this skyscraperpage since the birth of 1WTC, checking the page every couple of days for updated pics. I've just recently decided to create an account to ask questions, and apparently a stupid one. LOL Of course I knew the Construction Docs have to go through the whole entire approval process before given the green light to start construction. But before the CD's are submitted, there's a lot of work in the SD/DD Phases as well where every single details are mapped out and studied. From the drawings, 270 Park Avenue looks huge! And when I saw the angular base support, it just looks a little weak. I'm no Structural Engineer - I'm sure those specialist have it all down. But I'm just a little leary about the strength that's all.

If you go back through the thread and look at previous photos of the construction of this building - there are many showing segments being delivered, and closeups with welders - you will get an idea for how massive this supporting structure is.

[NYguy]

https://mobile.twitter.com/walterdel...58229427998720

[JMKeynes]

I can’t wait to see 270 and 175 Park soaring together with this icon.


https://twitter.com/clifftoymedia/st...051269/photo/1

[NYguy]

I"m going to enjoy watching this rise, even if they don't give us a rendering.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CYl485DLYJ6/