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Old Posted Jun 24, 2020, 3:10 AM
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mystery location #2

Here is a rather egnimatic rppc postcard.


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Hawaiian Gardens, Artesia California.



Equally egnimatic is what's typed on the back.



Carl Schurz was the 13th Secretary of the Interior.








Not to be confused with Nick Oreb's Hawaiian Gardens in San Pedro.



This place deserves a post of it's own.


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A mystery location.


"Vtg 1964 Golden Chicken Resturant Take Out Los Angeles Hills"



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I hope we will eventually find more information on that partially hidden mansion up on the hill.

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The April 1964 Street Address Directory lists Golden Chicken at 2651 Lombardy Blvd. The building is gone, but the low retaining wall we see
in your photo behind the women is still there.


About the house on the hill . . . I don't know anything about it, but I noticed that now-empty area recently and wondered what once occupied
the top of the hill (I couldn't find anything in the Sanborn Maps). So thanks for posting that photo, which at least shows a little of what was there!
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2020, 4:43 AM
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We have seen this amazing photograph on NLA but it is so phenomenal I thought it wouldn't hurt to see it again.



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Los Angeles, 2nd Street from the hill...........


January 1887..........


For sale. Link

Yes, that is a wonderful photo. It's also image 2003-0484 at the CA State Library, where you can download a huge TIF file of it.

The CA State Library dates the photo c. 1886, but the First Presbyterian Church (tall steeple, right of center) had horn-blowing
angel Gabriel removed from atop its steeple on January 26, 1887, and he does not appear to be in place here, so this photo's
handwritten date seems pretty accurate. I don't think the photo could have been taken more than a few months later at most.
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About the house on the hill . . . I don't know anything about it, but I noticed that now-empty area recently and wondered what once occupied
the top of the hill (I couldn't find anything in the Sanborn Maps). So thanks for posting that photo, which at least shows a little of what was there!
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Probably not much help, but I checked the sattelite view, which showed not only the foundation of the house on the hill but also the remains of a driveway leading to the opposite side. Carefully landing the Googlecopter by the gate, the street address was given as 2520 N. Eastern Ave.

The May 1956 Street Address Directory lists the occupant as one O.J. Allen, who could be reached at CApitol 2-5628. In July 1965, Lucille Klupper was at 221-9081. Ditto April, 1967, but I couldn't find a listing for 1968 or after.
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Alta Pines

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The April 1964 Street Address Directory lists Golden Chicken at 2651 Lombardy Blvd. The building is gone, but the low retaining wall we see
in your photo behind the women is still there.


About the house on the hill . . . I don't know anything about it, but I noticed that now-empty area recently and wondered what once occupied
the top of the hill (I couldn't find anything in the Sanborn Maps). So thanks for posting that photo, which at least shows a little of what was there!
The large house at the top of the hill was called the Alta Pines and it was at 2608 N. Eastern Avenue. It was a residence and a tea room operated by Mrs. Louise Threlkeld.


1932 CD via lapl.org



LAT 9-11-29 via newspapers.com

Here is an aerial view:


Google Earth Pro

There are many building permits for 2608 N. Eastern Ave, but I couldn't find the original or the demo dates. The mixed commercial and residential nature of the parcel is not mentioned in the permits.


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Mrs. Threlkeld presided over many social events, she is mentioned many times in the newspapers.

Here is an aerial from 1952 with the 3 acre property outlined in red. The assessor describes it as vacant and gives it a value of $2,040,000 in 2017. Its hard to say if this aerial shows a building or not.


UCSB

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mystery location #2

Here is a rather egnimatic rppc postcard.


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Hawaiian Gardens, Artesia California.
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^^^ e_r, this would seem to be the structure at the site which is responsible for the name of the city of Hawaiian Gardens:

"The name is said to be derived from a bamboo shack refreshment stand opened at the corner of Carson and Norwalk boulevards in 1927 by an unknown businessman. The stand was said to resemble a Hawaiian garden." (quote from http://www.laalmanac.com/cities/ci31.php )
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Here is an aerial from 1952 with the 3 acre property outlined in red. The assessor describes it as vacant and gives it a value of $2,040,000 in 2017. Its hard to say if this aerial shows a building or not.


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Built in 1923 and demolished in 2008.


Shows up a little better in this 1976 aerial.


mil.library.ucsb.edu


A triplex on the 2008 demolition permit.


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Built in 1923 and demolished in 2008.


Shows up a little better in this 1976 aerial.


mil.library.ucsb.edu


A triplex on the 2008 demolition permit.


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There was also a horse stable up there but it burned down. The house was a single family when built then a fraternity house then a triplex. Now there are plans to build 40 houses on that hill. We've been fighting it for years.
I have a picture of the house right before it was demolished, unfortunately I can't figure out how to post from Flickr onto this thread... I tried. Is there an easy by-the-number tutorial on how to do this. Plus, I've always wondered what was on the corner of Lombardy and Eastern... Great pic.
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We'd love to see the pic. bboyelsereno.

Hoss is good at explaining how to post or you could give a link to the photo and I could post it for you.

When I found the Golden Chicken photograph I had no idea the house atop the hill was an old tea room called the Alta Pines. That's a great discovery Lorendoc!


Thanks everyone for the amazing follow-ups!

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Los Angeles, 2nd Street from the hill...........

January 1887..........
The raised ground on the right lasted 20 years more than the Richfield ! The ground was still there 60 years later as a run-down parking. We see it in "A drive through Bunker Hill and Downtown Los Angeles" at 2:12 of the footage.
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There was also a horse stable up there but it burned down. The house was a single family when built then a fraternity house then a triplex. Now there are plans to build 40 houses on that hill. We've been fighting it for years.
I have a picture of the house right before it was demolished, unfortunately I can't figure out how to post from Flickr onto this thread... I tried. Is there an easy by-the-number tutorial on how to do this. Plus, I've always wondered what was on the corner of Lombardy and Eastern... Great pic.
Posting from Flickr is easy...click on the share button(arrow icon pointed to the right), at the far right of the dialog that comes up you will see BB-Code. Click on that and you'll see a link and below that a drop down list box for size. Select the size you want and then copy the link, paste the link here.
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Detail from recently-posted photo

Imagine observing this during a very lengthy, intense rainstorm, water cascading down 2nd, the cross streets getting flooded lower down.



I'd put a chair on the porch at left and watch the fun!
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"Vtg 1964 Golden Chicken Resturant Take Out Los Angeles Hills"



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So apparently 2651 Lombardy Blvd was built as a real estate place in 1949. It became carry-out chicken in 1964, demolished for whatever reason in 1971.

My buddy fellow Noirisher rick_m passed this along to me—the Golden Chicken lives on in a backyard in Toluca Lake near Riverside Drive!



(Although strictly speaking that's a rooster, not a chicken.) Also, it could be a specimen from a Donahoo's, which used to blanket the southland—

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Has NLA visited the Italian Village restaurant, at variously 423 or 425 W. 8th St., on the ground floor of the Hotel Bristol? I don't think so.

It seems to have been there from approximately 1924 to 1942.


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There was a bump in the road in its first year (or nearly):


LA Times, 6/16/1925


Strange are the ways of human beings! My mention of this unquestionable truth arises from Mr. Jambon's attitude towards his wife some twenty-five years earlier:


LA Times, 8/20/1900


And indeed it was the same wife. Divorce had been considered around the time of the garden hose incident, but they seem to have patched things up. In time, Mrs. Jambon had become a respected piano instructor.
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Not sure I did it correctly. The house is in the upper left hand corner. Sorry for the crappy quality of the photo. If I knew the house was going to be demolished a week after I took this I would have put more thought into it.
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Not sure I did it correctly. The house is in the upper left hand corner. Sorry for the crappy quality of the photo. If I knew the house was going to be demolished a week after I took this I would have put more thought into it.
037 by bclajr, on Flickr


Figured it out... Finally
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You did it!


I hope you don't mind if I enlarge your photograph.

The former Alta Pines Tea Room a week before its demise.






Thanks so much for sharing your photograph with us, bboyelsereno.

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Here's a more down to earth tea room. (annnd a mystery location)

"Front window and entrance to the New England Tea Room, Los Angeles."



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"A woman and man are seated at the window table, peering outside. The building address is 4619, but no street name is visible." ....< - - - That's the mystery.

Is there such a thing as a kosher tea room? I think that might be a Star of David between the words tea and room.






Let's take a closer look at the two patrons in the window.


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oops. . ..... What I thought was a 'Star of David' is actually a mutant lily!




It's saying "Feed me, Seymore."

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Here's a more down to earth tea room. (annnd a mystery location)

"Front window and entrance to the New England Tea Room, Los Angeles."



lapl

"A woman and man are seated at the window table, peering outside. The building address is 4619, but no street name is visible." ....< - - - That's the mystery.


I went looking for a tea room at a 4619 address. Could not find a New England Tea Room listing to suit. But I did find this,



courtlistener.com


Way back in the 1920's and the present day 4619 Melrose did not fit the bill.


But just two doors away I found this - 4623 Melrose Ave.



GSV


Could this be it with a bit chopped off ... and somethings moved ... oh and a street number change as well.

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I was about to say "definitely the same building" but something wonky is going on with the roof.

The two side angles of the roof are uneven in the old LAPL photo but they are the same equal in the present day photo and yet the width of the building appears unchanged.....How'd they do dat?




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