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Thankfully NYC has reached a point where demolishing a building this size isn’t out of the question economically. Let’s hope some of these hotels start to go for higher quality office/resi development a few decades down the line.
     
     
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The city should seize this garbage as blight by eminent domain.

I hope the NYC-hating terrorists who built this insult lose their shirts in the Wuhan Virus recession.
     
     
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Thankfully NYC has reached a point where demolishing a building this size isn’t out of the question economically. Let’s hope some of these hotels start to go for higher quality office/resi development a few decades down the line.
...and the last comment.

You don't need to tear them down. This is an issue of shortsighted building code. While boring, these towers wouldn't be as offensive if it were not for these hideous mandated setbacks from the existing historical streetwall. It's just ghastly how many streetwall wrcking towers have gone up in the last 10-15 years. The time it will take to repair will be long, but here's how you do it:

An updated building code that prevents such atrocities by modifying the sky-plane requirements and closing the loophole that allows developers to push the trunk of the tower back from the street. The reasons for doing so are varied, but it is often cheaper, more economical thus more profitable for the developer to comply with the sky-plane building code by making little to no effort to maintain a contextually scaled lot-line meeting lower portion of a tower and instead just building a chimney straight up, often times 20 or 30+ feet back from the street wall. And to add insult to injury, there is no requirement at all the conceal, mask or camouflage the newly exposed party walls of older flanking neighboring buildings.

Fix the code first. Then add to the code a special clause that existing towers of this nature, most built in the last 20 years in the budget hotel boom, be encouraged and allowed to do the following:

Either extend the floorplates out to the sidewalk property line and reconstructing the streetwall with contextually appropriate tower bases in the realm of 10-20 stories replacing these ridiculous single story lobbies and courtyards they use to comply with the flawed code OR allow and encourage architectural scaffolding that meets the flanking streetwall and be allowed to use a combination of architectural grating, screening and plantings to create multi-story vertical gardens growing on vertical architectural trellises bringing green to otherwise dark and barren side streets.
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It's just ghastly how many streetwall wrcking towers have gone up in the last 10-15 years.
I am often amazed at these types of comments by those who purport to be urbanists. It's bizarre.

This site was a parking lot. It's now a 45-floor hotel tower, with street-fronting restaurants, and without a single parking spot. It's pretty much everything you want in peak urban form, generating activity, tax revenue, and transit-pedestrian orientation. If you don't like the facade, fine, that can be replaced one day.

The setbacks make the restaurants possible, make the hotel rooms more desirable, and add variety and activity to the streetscape. The last thing NYC needs is more short, bulky towers with inefficient space.
     
     
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The setbacks make the restaurants possible, make the hotel rooms more desirable, and add variety and activity to the streetscape. The last thing NYC needs is more short, bulky towers with inefficient space.
That's not the reason or the alternative. There's nothing outrageous about wanting to see a new high rise have an appealing form that doesn't completely disregard the precedent of an existing historic streetwall. This is a design problem, with a design solution. I don't subscribe to just taking anything without offering criticism because of some notion we should just be happy it's not a parking lot or a two story wendy's. Give me a break with that bologna about better hotel rooms and short inefficient space because they would be required to meet the sidewalk. "[These setbacks] add variety and activity to the streetscape"?? Whan an absolute load of crap.
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I don't think the city planners in Brazzaville would accept this.
     
     
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