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Old Posted Sep 21, 2020, 11:12 PM
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366 new cases in BC over the last 3 days.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 12:17 AM
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366 new cases in BC over the last 3 days.
Hospitalization was higher on September 15 (63 people) than it is today (60). This is a little over 1% of hospital beds being occupied by people who have tested positive for covid.

BC has had 18 covid deaths so far in September.

The hospitalization rate and death rate per known active case is way down from what it was in April.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 12:56 AM
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 1:00 AM
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The lack of any meaningful cost-benefit analysis is worrying. It's also worrying how many people have lost their skepticism toward governments declaring states of emergencies and dramatically curbing civil liberties (except of course for certain pre-approved exercises of civil liberties, such as the BLM protests, which are supported and encouraged by big corporations and the government).

We're now starting to see the mental health impacts of the lockdown, as well. Suicides have already taken place and are anticipated to increase dramatically as the dual miseries of social isolation and job loss grip the population. Mental health issues such as depression have skyrocketed. The debt is mind bogglingly high, but of course that's ok the unemployed Millennials will bear that burden, so the gerontocracy doesn't care.

Unfortunately the whole thing was politicized from the start. Any mention of a CBA would get you leftists screaming at you about how you want to kill their grandparents.
So uh...what do you want?
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 1:09 AM
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It's been a while since Canada had reported more than 10 deaths in a single day, but it happened today with 11 new deaths announced. Now, I know Alberta and BC don't report over the weekend, so it's not really 11 deaths happening the same day, but still, the trend is that numbers are going up and it will be interesting to see how we can deal with that fact in the next couple days.

Cases count is important, however we are testing so much more than before and we are testing many who are asymptomatic or with very mild symptoms. Last spring, those who were tested were people who got really sick from Covid-19. So i think right now what is the most important is to look at hospitalization and deaths resulting from Covid-19. It's with these numbers that we will be able to identify whether or not we are in a 2nd wave, not with case count. These numbers remain low across all Canada...for now.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 2:29 AM
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In fact, Greater Quebec city Region (which includes for example Charlevoix) is yellow, but the core (Quebec City downtown) is Orange :

-Agglomération de Québec incluant Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures, L’Ancienne-Lorette et Wendake
-MRC de la Jacques-Cartier
-MRC de la Côte-de-Beaupré
-MRC de l’île d'Orléans


https://www.quebec.ca/sante/probleme...19-par-region/
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 3:03 AM
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Why would so many cabinet ministers be bailing on a popular government?
The finance minister has Parkinson and had already decided to retire. The others probably just want to move on with their lives and pursue other things. Ie life moves on.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 3:09 AM
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An ex boss of mine killed himself a few months ago .. likely triggered in part by the lockdown.

Now as I face my first medical challenge I too am worried of another hospital backlog.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 3:11 AM
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BC has the highest rate of active infections now:


https://www.vicnews.com/news/b-c-has...l-data-shows/#
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 3:43 AM
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Nunavut is no longer at 0

Nunavut reports first COVID-19 cases involving two mine workers
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...kers-1.5112216
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 4:36 AM
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The lack of any meaningful cost-benefit analysis is worrying. It's also worrying how many people have lost their skepticism toward governments declaring states of emergencies and dramatically curbing civil liberties (except of course for certain pre-approved exercises of civil liberties, such as the BLM protests, which are supported and encouraged by big corporations and the government).

We're now starting to see the mental health impacts of the lockdown, as well. Suicides have already taken place and are anticipated to increase dramatically as the dual miseries of social isolation and job loss grip the population. Mental health issues such as depression have skyrocketed. The debt is mind bogglingly high, but of course that's ok the unemployed Millennials will bear that burden, so the gerontocracy doesn't care.

Unfortunately the whole thing was politicized from the start. Any mention of a CBA would get you leftists screaming at you about how you want to kill their grandparents.
You’re talking as if it is still April. The economy has been mostly-open for months now, social activities have been allowed for longer. Unemployment is still high, but at about 10% is not worse than a regular recession. Household incomes and savings are up because of all the money the government has dumped into the economy.

I agree with you that high debt is concern, particularly as the government has been slow to wind programs down as the economy recovers.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 4:48 AM
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Not a super informative article but interesting that Doug Ford is talking about antigen tests: https://globalnews.ca/news/7346078/d...ovid-19-tests/

Website about this: https://www.rapidtests.org/

I wonder what the Health Canada review means, and whether there is a regulatory path forward in Canada for this type of testing. It sounds like the US FDA is basically stuck right now.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 11:32 AM
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The finance minister has Parkinson and had already decided to retire. The others probably just want to move on with their lives and pursue other things. Ie life moves on.
It’s a lot of “moving on” for a popular first-term government just 3 years in.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 12:13 PM
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Rumours are rife that if things get bad again that border controls and restrictions could reappear again between Ottawa and Gatineau.

Legault was pressed on the question and said "could be...".
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 2:49 PM
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Rumours are rife that if things get bad again that border controls and restrictions could reappear again between Ottawa and Gatineau.

Legault was pressed on the question and said "could be...".
Judging by the map above, it would be more in Ford's interest to shut that border, although I'd bet money that if it does close, it would be Legault doing it.

IMO, it makes more sense, from an economic perspective, to have open travel between the two cities but then the Ottawa-Gatineau metro area as a whole is blocked off from the rest of Ontario & Quebec, but that will never, ever happen.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 2:55 PM
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It's been a while since Canada had reported more than 10 deaths in a single day, but it happened today with 11 new deaths announced. Now, I know Alberta and BC don't report over the weekend, so it's not really 11 deaths happening the same day, but still, the trend is that numbers are going up and it will be interesting to see how we can deal with that fact in the next couple days.

Cases count is important, however we are testing so much more than before and we are testing many who are asymptomatic or with very mild symptoms. Last spring, those who were tested were people who got really sick from Covid-19. So i think right now what is the most important is to look at hospitalization and deaths resulting from Covid-19. It's with these numbers that we will be able to identify whether or not we are in a 2nd wave, not with case count. These numbers remain low across all Canada...for now.
How many people died in an average day before Covid?
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 2:56 PM
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Judging by the map above, it would be more in Ford's interest to shut that border, although I'd bet money that if it does close, it would be Legault doing it.

IMO, it makes more sense, from an economic perspective, to have open travel between the two cities but then the Ottawa-Gatineau metro area as a whole is blocked off from the rest of Ontario & Quebec, but that will never, ever happen.
Regional numbers are probably more relevant.

Currently Gatineau has about 150 active cases and Ottawa has 400.

Since the pandemic started there have been just under 1000 cases in Gatineau and about 3500 in Ottawa.

Relative to population, the situation seems fairly similar in both cities.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 3:13 PM
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Comorbidities
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. For data on comorbidities, Socrata icon Click here to download.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...#Comorbidities
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How many people died in an average day before Covid?
This may help.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2020, 3:43 PM
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Comorbidity includes things like the 30 year old diabetic that could have lived another 50 years.
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