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October CDR Submissions


1650 W. Girard Avenue
-Located in Francisville neighborhood
-7-story mixed-use project with 192 residential units, and ground floor commercial/retail
PDF here:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20200930...age_Update.pdf
I'm very excited about this project! My girl and I live in the southwestern portion of Francisville, which is the most heavily revitalized. The northeastern portion of the neighborhood is approaching the late stage of "up-and-coming" and will eventually cross the threshold to reach the "revitalized" status. This project will go a long way in ensuring that! Not only will this project bring new life to Girard Ave, but it will also intensify the rebirth of Ridge Avenue, which has many large projects rising at the moment. I love the energy in this neighborhood, and I'm hoping that packing so many new residents into the neighborhood will eventually bring us a restaurant and/or some kind of new bar!

Also, this project will also help push the wave of revitalization north into the southern edge of Templetown/Cecil B. Moore, which has hosted many single-family homes, condos, and apartments buildings geared towards young professionals rather than Temple students.

I keep telling people that Francisville has the potential to be the next Fishtown: like Fishtown, we have great access to transit, an easy walk to adjacent neigborhoods that offer dining and entertainment (Fairmount and Spring Garden), three mixed-use corridors (Fairmount, Ridge, and North Broad), and an abundance of young families that have moved in. Unlike Fishtown, we're a much quicker walk to Center City, are closer to cultural institutions, and have ample access to Fairmount Park!
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I'll answer my own question.

The Moxy East Village is a 311 room hotel that was recently completed in the East Village/LES (garbage location by NY standards).
The East Village and even the LES are far from "garbage locations" by NY standards. Also, the Moxy EV is NOT on the LES, it's in the Union Square area (ergo, barely even the East Village) and 2 blocks from Facebook's NYC Corporate headquarters and convenient to any number of NYU dorms and Cooper Union.
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The East Village and even the LES are far from "garbage locations" by NY standards. Also, the Moxy EV is NOT on the LES, it's in the Union Square area (ergo, barely even the East Village) and 2 blocks from Facebook's NYC Corporate headquarters and convenient to any number of NYU dorms and Cooper Union.
I stand corrected on the particular location of this hotel. For some reason, I was picturing this hotel in my head as being in that gaggle of development approaching the Williamsburg Bridge where the new Essex Market development is. And yes, that is a garbage location.

The LES and the Eastern end of the East Village are not ideal places for tourists to stay. There is no subway nearby.
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Many people used to consider the Lower East Side as running up to 14th street (before the East Village was a thing) so you were correct under some definitions, 3rd&Brown. Anyway, this is not the place for NYC neighborhood talk.

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Where this hotel is actually located in NYC and whether or not it is a desirable location is honestly irrelevant. The important factors are the room rates and # of rooms, which according to 3rd&Brown are comparable, and the cost to build each hotel, which was apparently more than 2x as expensive for the NYC hotel.

If these facts are correct, then construction costs are not the burden some developers make them out to be and the excuse for the terribly value engineered southern wall of this project is non - existant.
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I think what is particularly good news about that Girard project is that it is phase two of the 'Civic'. Phase one was converting the former hospital into apartments. They must have had success leasing to move ahead with phase two. Great the hospital parking lot is getting a dense development.
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