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Old Posted Jul 5, 2019, 10:04 PM
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Careful now, we need to live in constant fear of making sure that we do not "attack" the Chinese and their glorious governing body. We don't want to upset our local SSP PC Social Justice Crusader. He's like a shark in the water that can smell blood hundreds of kms away. He's a stealthy one; ambushing you and your opinions from seemingly nowhere as this is all he ever really comments on. It's his whole purpose in life
Better a SJW that a complete and utter psycho that threatens bodily harm to someone who favours the North American usage of a word over the British one. If there's anyone that needs a vacation it's you buddy
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2019, 11:46 PM
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Better a SJW that a complete and utter psycho that threatens bodily harm to someone who favours the North American usage of a word over the British one. If there's anyone that needs a vacation it's you buddy
Yup, there he is, our little useless (here and in real life) crusader. Right on time
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2019, 6:49 PM
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There is a battle going on within the Union of BC Municipalities over how inappropriate it is to allow China to sponsor their convention's annual reception, especially when they illegally detain two Canadians:

The president of the Union of B.C. Municipalities says the organization will review whether the Chinese government should be allowed to sponsor its annual general meeting, as criticism of the Vancouver consulate’s recurring sponsorship grows amid heightening tensions between Canada and China.

“We are in a position of trying to figure out what’s the right position for our membership as a whole,” said president Arjun Singh, who is also a Kamloops city councillor. “We took a position we thought was in a solid space, but, given recent strong concerns, we’ll look at it again.”

The Chinese consulate in Vancouver has been a sponsor of the UBCM convention - which requires a $6,000 payment to the union - and has hosted a reception at the organization’s annual September meeting since 2012, as have a raft of other groups, including the province’s main municipal-employee union, Port Metro Vancouver, numerous law firms and oil and gas companies....


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...rship-of-ubcm/
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2019, 10:57 PM
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About the only action Canada could take that might be noticed would be to suspend intake of new visa and citizenship applications for all Chinese citizens. China would likely respond in kind so Canada would need to communicate the intention to notify Canadians either in or planning to go to China.
Yeah, because screw those Canadians whose lives and livelihoods are dependent on being able to get a Chinese visa, right? Stooping to the level of the Chinese government's overreactions to everything wouldn't help Canada 'win'. We're supposed to be better than that.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2019, 4:20 AM
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Yeah, because screw those Canadians whose lives and livelihoods are dependent on being able to get a Chinese visa, right? Stooping to the level of the Chinese government's overreactions to everything wouldn't help Canada 'win'. We're supposed to be better than that.
We are now at a point where we need to be taking a stand against bullying countries such as China. And sometimes that requires a few sacrifices to be made along the way in order to achieve that goal.

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We are now at a point where we need to be yaking a stand against bullying countries such as China. And sometimes that requires a few sacrifices to me made along the way in order to achieve that goal.
Freudian slip?
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2019, 1:06 PM
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Mr Scheer has said that a Conservative government would continue Canada's campaign for a non-permanent seat on the UN Security Council.

In other news, doctors across the country have reported a surge in Conservative partisans seeking treatment for whiplash and help in wiping the sneer off their faces ....
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2019, 5:33 PM
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We are now at a point where we need to be yaking a stand against bullying countries such as China. And sometimes that requires a few sacrifices to me made along the way in order to achieve that goal.
Thank god you and your ilk are masters at microwaving cats and not in charge of a nation's foreign policy. You'd probably cut off all relations with the United States just to spite them too over their continued use of the Imperial system (sorry US customary) of measurements.
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Mr Scheer has said that a Conservative government would continue Canada's campaign for a non-permanent seat on the UN Security Council.

In other news, doctors across the country have reported a surge in Conservative partisans seeking treatment for whiplash and help in wiping the sneer off their faces ....
What a stupid idea. We have zero chance of winning that seat.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2019, 9:05 PM
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Thank god you and your ilk are masters at microwaving cats and not in charge of a nation's foreign policy. You'd probably cut off all relations with the United States just to spite them too over their continued use of the Imperial system (sorry US customary) of measurements.
Does it have to be pointed out to you that your analogy is poor?
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What a stupid idea. We have zero chance of winning that seat.
It's not a stupid idea, but I agree our chance of success is slim to nil.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2019, 9:19 PM
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It's not a stupid idea, but I agree our chance of success is slim to nil.
If we have little chance of winning then what are the advantages of remaining in the competition?
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If we have little chance of winning then what are the advantages of remaining in the competition?
Keeps us in the game and offers a chance to influence via our platform. These elections take place every two years, although I think we need to wait longer than that between attempts.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2019, 9:35 PM
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Keeps us in the game and offers a chance to influence via our platform. These elections take place every two years, although I think we need to wait longer than that between attempts.
We have a platform?

If we lose this one we’re out for another decade at least.
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We have a platform?

If we lose this one we’re out for another decade at least.
I haven't seen any details, but yes, we do. Once upon a time, we shared (informally) a non-permanent seat with Australia and New Zealand, but I suspect that system has broken down, with Europeans tending to support other European countries rather than other members of the UN's "Western European and Others" group (Canada, obviously, being an "Other").
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I haven't seen any details, but yes, we do. Once upon a time, we shared (informally) a non-permanent seat with Australia and New Zealand, but I suspect that system has broken down, with Europeans tending to support other European countries rather than other members of the UN's "Western European and Others" group (Canada, obviously, being an "Other").
If the platform is secret then how does it help raise Canada’s profile. If it hasn’t been released then we’re running out of time.

CANZ cooperation still exists, but it is not supported by a losing campaign.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2019, 10:37 PM
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If the platform is secret then how does it help raise Canada’s profile. If it hasn’t been released then we’re running out of time.

CANZ cooperation still exists, but it is not supported by a losing campaign.
Secret? Says who? Elements have been commented on in the media (was it the maternal health/children agenda? I really can't recall). Although the specifics of state to state communications (including things like proposed "vote swaps") would normally not be public.
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Former ambassadot to China, David McCallum, apparently warned the Chinese that getting tough with the Trudeau government in retaliation for Meng could lead to the election of the Conservatives, who would be less sympathetic to Beijing than the Liberals:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...-officials-of/
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2019, 8:32 PM
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Former ambassadot to China, David McCallum, apparently warned the Chinese that getting tough with the Trudeau government in retaliation for Meng could lead to the election of the Conservatives, who would be less sympathetic to Beijing than the Liberals:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...-officials-of/
Where are the Cons on China these days? As I recall Harper took a tough stance on the PRC at the outset, but he mellowed considerably over the years.

Scheer is talking tough, but is he really prepared to "be less sympathetic to Beijing"?
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Of course not. He doesn't fundamentally have a different worldview or ideology than does Trudeau.
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