[Halifax] Victoria Hall (2438 Gottingen) | 40 m | 13 fl | Proposed

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

Ah-hmm...

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[eastcoastal]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

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It DOES say "cut stone or similar" in the descriptions included with Figure 29, on the 15th sheet (marked as page 42) of Attachment B, Revised Design Rationale.

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...0309rc1141.pdf

[someone123]

Originally Posted by eastcoastal

It DOES say "cut stone or similar" in the descriptions included with Figure 29, on the 15th sheet (marked as page 42) of Attachment B, Revised Design Rationale.

It would be really surprising and unusual if this development used real cut stone on the upper floors and not an artificial product.

That being said there are lots of nice looking buildings out there made out of poured concrete or blocks.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by eastcoastal

It DOES say "cut stone or similar" in the descriptions included with Figure 29, on the 15th sheet (marked as page 42) of Attachment B, Revised Design Rationale.

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...0309rc1141.pdf

I know that. Keith's image didn't show up when I looked at his post, so I was wondering what his comment meant.

In my post, I was pointing out that, despite the fact that the diagram used the wording "or similar", the text in the document that I quoted, didn't.

I'm assuming that the note on the diagram meant to say 'may not be exactly as pictured', or similar (lol). But who knows?

Hope that clears it up a little.

Edit: it appears that Keith's pic will not display on my phone for some reason, and thus the confusion. My apologies... it's the device's fault.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

Edit: it appears that Keith's pic will not display on my phone for some reason, and thus the confusion. My apologies... it's the device's fault.

It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.

Well, actually, it's your fault for the photo hosting service you chose, but I didn't want to say it...

[someone123]

Heritage revisions approved. Still more approvals needed: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...hall-1.5943199

Various councillors interviewed and commented on how they might want to demand that the height be further reduced. The article describes 3 more stages of approval including a community council vote. I thought this community council portion would have been eliminated under the Centre Plan but I guess not.

[Saul Goode]

Originally Posted by someone123

The article describes 3 more stages of approval including a community council vote.

Well, HRM never wants to deny itself and the naysayers sufficient chances to screw up a development.

Onward and upward! Just so long as it's not too far upward, of course.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by someone123

Heritage revisions approved. Still more approvals needed: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...hall-1.5943199

Various councillors interviewed and commented on how they might want to demand that the height be further reduced. The article describes 3 more stages of approval including a community council vote. I thought this community council portion would have been eliminated under the Centre Plan but I guess not.

The HRM planning approval process is absolutely ridiculous. No wonder we have a housing shortage here. Not only does council want to saw everything down to ridiculously short height and reduce the number of possible units, but the hugely red-tape-intensive process discourages many from even wanting to try.

[Jonovision]

Originally Posted by someone123

I thought this community council portion would have been eliminated under the Centre Plan but I guess not.

This application was started prior to Centre Plan approval so it continues under the old rules.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by Jonovision

This application was started prior to Centre Plan approval so it continues under the old rules.

I guess if they do not get the result they want under the old process they could put forward a new proposal under the new rules. But according to the map this site is under an 11 m height limit (while Agricola and Willow for example says 90 m, and the main commercial part of Gottingen is 90 m).

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by someone123

But according to the map this site is under an 11 m height limit (while Agricola and Willow for example says 90 m, and the main commercial part of Gottingen is 90 m).

Unbelieveable. Just shaking my head. The incumbent councillors who were part of the CP approval process should be hanging their heads in shame for being part of that boondoggle.

[RoshanMcG]

Updated renderings







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[Drybrain]

Better, but I still think is is a situation where an unobtrusive, glass-walled tower would actually be preferable--and generally I prefer solid materials, but a tower that fades into the background as much as possible would be best to highlight Victoria Hall.

Still, certainly not going to say no to a good shot of reasonable density + heritage restoration.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Drybrain

Better, but I still think is is a situation where an unobtrusive, glass-walled tower would actually be preferable--and generally I prefer solid materials, but a tower that fades into the background as much as possible would be best to highlight Victoria Hall.

Still, certainly not going to say no to a good shot of reasonable density + heritage restoration.

Yup. As long as they stay away from lime greens and purples, I'm good to go. A little more height would have been nice as well, but not complaining.

[DigitalNinja]

This one was approved at council with only Lindell Smith voting against it.

https://huddle.today/13-storey-highr...lifax-is-a-go/

[Keith P.]

Is it some kind of unwritten rule that anything over 4 stories in a given district MUST be opposed by the Councillor for that district? WTH would Smith oppose this?

[Empire]

Originally Posted by DigitalNinja

This one was approved at council with only Lindell Smith voting against it.

https://huddle.today/13-storey-highr...lifax-is-a-go/

This needs to go back to the drawing board. This design is over used in HRM and in no way compliments Victoria Hall.

[Keith P.]

Counting the number of floors in that latest rendering I get nowhere close to 13 storeys.

[OliverD]

I see 11 or 12. The perspective hides at least one floor.