TCH east of Nipigon (La route transcanadienne à l'est de Nipigon)

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by le calmar

Holy cow, I don’t think I’ve ever passed more than 3 at once.

I was thinking one car at a time at first, but there was no room for that. By this point there are no more climbing lanes on the 28.

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I guess my issue with accelerating beforehand is that I’ll have to commit to passing (unless that’s when braking comes in handy if something goes wrong). I’m the type where I will veer left to see if there’s oncoming traffic (assuming that the roadway is straight) and won’t go unless it’s all clear.

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At the traffic light of 17 and Forest Lea Road, on the other side, I saw a pickup use the left turn lane to get ahead of a big rig. (It was red light for Highway 17.) I was like, “Lol I get it.” Behind that truck was a line of 10+ cars...

[Dengler Avenue]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.tbne...photos-3165996
Picture time!

[Dengler Avenue]

Nipigon "Thruway"
a mixed type of interchange on the west side, diamond at 585, then, after a *gasp* 7.5% slope, RIRO on the west approach of the glorified Nipigon Bridge
EDR via 585 then Polly Lake Road

[Dengler Avenue]

https://renfrewcounty.geocortex.com/...-UhtAwIBPpw4dk
This is rather fun. By looking at the property lines, one can tell the shapes of future interchanges along Renfrew Bypass and Pembroke-Petawawa Bypass.
Now I wanna see if I can pull the same thing off with Kenora Bypass.

[Dengler Avenue]

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...io-man-3224902
omg...

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...io-man-3224902
omg...

... just another day on Northern ON roads in winter.

They should make it into a proper interchange, or at least a set of lights.

[F. Lionel]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

... just another day on Northern ON roads in winter.

They should make it into a proper interchange, or at least a set of lights.

This stretch of highway is being relocated and twinned, hopefully, in the next round. This is the Pass Lake to Pearl stretch and this is the 4th casualty in two years on this particular stretch.

While I believe that all of these intersections should be grade separated... I will settle for the actual twinning to take place. This segment of 11/17 is the worst of all the remaining sections for dangerous conditions and stupid decisions.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by F. Lionel

This stretch of highway is being relocated and twinned, hopefully, in the next round. This is the Pass Lake to Pearl stretch and this is the 4th casualty in two years on this particular stretch.

While I believe that all of these intersections should be grade separated... I will settle for the actual twinning to take place. This segment of 11/17 is the worst of all the remaining sections for dangerous conditions and stupid decisions.

Twinning would be great, but at a minimum, it should have a set of lights.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Twinning would be great, but at a minimum, it should have a set of lights.

Beacons, yes; actually traffic lights, no.
Do you want a set of traffic lights at Southview Drive on the twinned SW Bypass in the future? What about at Kingsway?

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Beacons, yes; actually traffic lights, no.
Do you want a set of traffic lights at Southview Drive on the twinned SW Bypass in the future? What about at Kingsway?

I meant until it is twinned. So, from this point till they open a twinned highway there, this should be signalized.

The rest you speak of will be full interchanges or closed.

[Dengler Avenue]

https://www.renfrewtoday.ca/2021/01/...plete-by-2023/

[F. Lionel]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

I meant until it is twinned. So, from this point till they open a twinned highway there, this should be signalized.

The rest you speak of will be full interchanges or closed.

This should be a beacon. The issue at hand along this stretch of road is not the actual intersection. It is due to the distance between the east bound passing lanes.

I drive this stretch daily. This is the first straight away after the last passing lane at Loon Lake where motorists have (what they think) is a long distance view of oncoming traffic when they are headed east. Except the reality is that when you are east bound the road actually has a gentle roll... gentle enough to obscure oncoming traffic when the weather is not exactly pristine. At night the oncoming traffics headlights actually make this stretch safer as you can see when a car is behind the hills. When you get to the bottom of the hill at the Pearl River you cannot see the oncoming west bound traffic - but you think you can because of the optical illusion of the landscape. Similarly when you are west bound you cannot see the intersection or the east bound traffic while you are climbing the hill into Pearl... But you think you can because the hill is so gradual.

Putting a signalized intersection here is just going to move this issue to another stretch of highway - most likely a little further east just past Pearl Lake. Or more people will take their chances passing traffic on blind corners. Much like the idiot who almost ran me off the road last night near the Ouimet CP Overpass.

[Dengler Avenue]

Like, this view?
https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.66563...8i8192!5m1!1e4

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https://www.chroniclejournal.com/new...f3dc86eef.html
By the way, this piece from nearly a year ago skipped my watch. I guess I was too busy with preparing myself against the pandemic to notice.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by F. Lionel

This should be a beacon. The issue at hand along this stretch of road is not the actual intersection. It is due to the distance between the east bound passing lanes.

I drive this stretch daily. This is the first straight away after the last passing lane at Loon Lake where motorists have (what they think) is a long distance view of oncoming traffic when they are headed east. Except the reality is that when you are east bound the road actually has a gentle roll... gentle enough to obscure oncoming traffic when the weather is not exactly pristine. At night the oncoming traffics headlights actually make this stretch safer as you can see when a car is behind the hills. When you get to the bottom of the hill at the Pearl River you cannot see the oncoming west bound traffic - but you think you can because of the optical illusion of the landscape. Similarly when you are west bound you cannot see the intersection or the east bound traffic while you are climbing the hill into Pearl... But you think you can because the hill is so gradual.

Putting a signalized intersection here is just going to move this issue to another stretch of highway - most likely a little further east just past Pearl Lake. Or more people will take their chances passing traffic on blind corners. Much like the idiot who almost ran me off the road last night near the Ouimet CP Overpass.

2 lanes are notoriously bad for accidents due to people who think they don't need to do the speed limit. This is why even the low used parts need to be 4 laned. Till then, take major intersections and make them signalized. Yes, it would suck for the average driver, but it could also lower the number of accidents.

[Dengler Avenue]

Or will it? People run red lights anyway. That's why intersections like MB-1 @ MB-16 are so deadly.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Or will it? People run red lights anyway. That's why intersections like MB-1 @ MB-16 are so deadly.

The difference is you have a 4 lane highway for both, vs 2 lanes. Divided Highways should not have signalized intersections.

[Dengler Avenue]

https://www.northernontariobusiness....edium=facebook
@swimmer_spe just shared this with me. Yo, this is big.

[wave46]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

https://www.northernontariobusiness....edium=facebook
@swimmer_spe just shared this with me. Yo, this is big.

Cool. There's definitely some spots that a 2+1 could make a lot of sense, especially on Highway 11 between North Bay and New Liskeard.

About the only disadvantage is that is hurts property accesses, so it's no bueno for places with lots of those.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by wave46

About the only disadvantage is that is hurts property accesses, so it's no bueno for places with lots of those.

And that’s actually why 11 up to Tri-Town makes sense.
That’s why, in Scandinavian countries, they are only done on super-2’s (well, super-3’s now).

[Dengler Avenue]

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...-on-highway-17
Somebody is trying to make people's life miserable.