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ethereal_reality · #**59361** Posted **Oct 21, 2022, 6:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

I think I've found the parking lot. From the flag, the Wm H Hoegee Co was selling tents, awnings and sporting goods at 138-142 S Main Street and 129-133 S Los Angeles Street (front and back of the same building). I've placed an arrow marking the viewing direction for the image above. Hoegee's would be the building below it. This aerial image is dated January 29, 1934.

mil.library.ucsb.edu

Excellent sleuthing, Hoss! You found that tiny parking lot.

Just for fun here's a shipping box from the Wm H Hoegee Co. (it's for sale)

vintagesportsantiques

And it appears that the company dabbled in women's sports clothing.

harvardlibrary

And guns?

"I collect LAPD stuff & this was a reasonable price and good enough for me. A 1928 DS shipped to Wm Hoegee Co. It was in a holster for some time, and has some good scratching on the cylinder. Private citizen? LAPD cop? Movies? I'll never know, but being in that town at that time is good enough for me."

coltforum

"It has the 38 special barrel marking so it is a Police Positive Special.....hence a PRE Detective Special."

Here's the info. on the gun.

If the gun was for the LAPD I think it would have been shipped directly to the police department. .so I'd say the gun was for a private citizen.

I've got it! A private detective.

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ethereal_reality · #**59362** Posted **Oct 21, 2022, 9:56 PM**

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A mystery location.

eBay

Here's a closer look. (and there's a pretty good clue)

eBay

It turns out that Washer Wilson was an early chain of sorts. When I looked in the city directories they were all over the place.

For example. .here are three of them in the 1928 directory.

LAPL

Now, if someone can locate a Washer Wilson Store next to an unemployment agency we're in business!

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Engineeral · #**59363** Posted **Oct 22, 2022, 1:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

There's a possibility that we've seen this photograph sometime in the past. (it's a reprint currently on eBay)

It shows a small parking lot in the "Mexican Quarter" of Los Angeles in the 1930s.

eBay

I'm also curious about the car with the hood ornament that looks like a duck skimming a pond.

This one.

detail

Just imagine how old it is! It's no doubt from the earliest days of Los Angeles.

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While it may be on eBay, this picture was also recently featured on Shorpy.com at:
https://www.shorpy.com/node/26833

In discussion there the vehicles were identified by Shorpy user hayslip as:
"Left row front to back: Buick, Buick (29-31 era); 1932 Ford V8; 1933 Chevrolet Master; 1934 Ford V8 and 1924 Chrysler. Middle row: 1927 Chevrolet in front and unknown in back. Next row: 1934 Ford deluxe V8 and hidden last is a Model A Ford Tudor. Nicely maintained collection in a tidy lot."

I wonder though if the radiator cap is an after-market accessory, not a Buick factory item.

Lorendoc · #**59364** Posted **Oct 22, 2022, 4:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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A mystery location.

eBay

Here's a closer look. (and there's a pretty good clue)

eBay

It turns out that Washer Wilson was an early chain of sorts. When I looked in the city directories they were all over the place.

For example. .here are three of them in the 1928 directory.

LAPL

Now, if someone can locate a Washer Wilson Store next to an unemployment agency we're in business!

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The Bogardus Employment Agency shared the 416 W 8th address with Washer Wilson in the 1928 CD.

sopas ej · #**59365** Posted **Oct 23, 2022, 8:11 AM**

March 11, 1948. Looking southerly over Arroyo Seco Pkwy (then US-66, now CA-110) from Avenue 43.

Valley Times Photo

CaliNative · #**59366** Posted **Oct 23, 2022, 9:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Excellent sleuthing, Hoss! You found that tiny parking lot.

Just for fun here's a shipping box from the Wm H Hoegee Co. (it's for sale)

[url="https://vintagesportsantiques.com/BOX-ONLY-Wm-H-Hoegee-Co-Inc-Sporting-Good-Shipping-Box"]vintagesportsantiques[/url

The runner on the label looks like she was modeled on the red headed 1920s movie star Clara Bow, the "It girl" (meaning she's got "it", i.e. sex appeal) who rivaled Louise Brooks and a few other women as "flapper" icons in the "Roaring Twenties", when America and the world became completely "modern", as the people of the time themselves recognized and stated.

1920s modernity...radio, instant and mass communications, early T.V., plastics, air transportation, widespread car ownership, installment credit, women's liberation and voting, short skirts and bobbed hair on women, electric appliances, dial telephones, medical and scientific advances, early air conditioning, modern art, music and literature, talking and early color movies, stock and real estate booms and crashes, cultural, religious and political polarization (e.g. in the Scopes Anti-Evolution Trial, "wets vs. dries", pro and anti civil rights, pro and anti-immigration, political extremists like the klan & fascists) etc etc. etc. Very modern indeed.

In the San Gabriel Mountains front range north of Pasadena and Sierra Madre, there used to be a Hoegee's Trail Camp for hikers. I believe it was on the Winter Creek trail above Chantry Flats, and not too far from Mt. Wilson. I used to hike thst trail when I was young. Is it still there? Was it related to, established or operated by the Hoegee's sporting goods stores described above? Anyone know? Hoegees sporting goods stores may be long gone, but I think Hoegee's trail campground is still there for hikers. Did the Hoegee sporting goods stores go out of business in the Great Depression?

I remember passing by the Hoegee campground in the early 1970s when on the trail. I remember it had a small store to buy food and supplies, and a small campground. To reach it, you had to hike up the trail from Chantry Flats, near the road. Hoegees camp was a few miles from Chantry Flats and the road. If you kept hiking from Hoegee camp, you could eventually reach Mt. Wilson and other front range spots.

odinthor · #**59367** Posted **Oct 23, 2022, 8:18 PM**

As to Mr. Hoegee:

Yes, this is the Hoegee of the "Mountain Resort":

1916 CD

Of appearance, like this:

LA Herald, 12/28/1901

Many, many newspaper items about his various involvements with healthy, sporting and other, causes, real estate ventures, mining ventures, and what-not. He seems to have had a gift for benign, indeed beneficent, self-promotion.

His "typical Southern California" home. This would have made a nice NLA clubhouse:

LA Herald, 5/3/1906

It was located at 1702 N. Vermont Avenue, and, as we'll see in a moment, had Maurice Tourneur as its subsequent owner. Who was Tourneur? We'll have to get to that some other time.

But Mr. Hoegee paid Nature's debt, though his company lived on:

LA Times, 9/16/1924

And here is his daughter's house, where he died:

gsv

HossC · #**59368** Posted **Oct 23, 2022, 9:01 PM**

According to an article at homesteadmuseum.blog, "The camp was opened by Arie Hoegee, Jr". If I'm reading the article correctly, Arie was William's brother. Arie worked for William for a while (his name appears in the CDs) before setting up his own company, Hoegee and Sons, which focused specifically on tents and awnings.

We've seen views of the (Wm H) Hoegee Sporting Goods Store as late as 1960 - see my post from 2014 for a round-up.

odinthor · #**59369** Posted **Oct 23, 2022, 10:00 PM**

Right you are, Hoss.

Several references (I draw from Googling "Arie Hoegee") state that Ari started it in 1908, including a statement from yet another Hoegee, Vinton Hoegee.

CaliNative · #**59370** Posted **Oct 24, 2022, 3:42 AM**

Thanks Hoss & Odinthor! That answers my questions about Hoegee's Camp. After I posted, I did a search. It appears Hoegee Camp still exists on the trail, although one article I found says it has been temporarily closed since the 2020 Bobcat fire and covid epidemic. This article was written a while ago, so maybe it is opened again. The same article said that the original Hoegee Camp & Resort had a small lodge, and cabins as well as tents back in the old days. More recently, it is just a humble trail campground apparently.

Lwize · #**59371** Posted **Oct 24, 2022, 5:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by sopas ej

March 11, 1948. Looking southerly over Arroyo Seco Pkwy (then US-66, now CA-110) from Avenue 43.

Valley Times Photo

Love those "drop the clutch" on-ramps.

CaliNative · #**59372** Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 12:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by Lwize

Love those "drop the clutch" on-ramps.

Those crazy short on ramps must have led to lots of collisions. Quick acceleration a must, difficult with manual transmissions.

ethereal_reality · #**59373** Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 1:07 AM**

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Thanks for the follow-up posts on the Hoegee Co. HossC, CaliNative and odinthor.

originally posted by odinthor

latimes1906

That's some house!

Here's another view from oldhomesoflosangeles....correction coming

oldhomesoflosangeles

He covers it as the Dr. Leon Elbert Landone House at 2054 Holly Avenue.

Here's a slightly different view.

oldhomesoflosangeles

so. .um. .what's on top of this hill today?

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fullpower · #**59374** Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 4:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Thanks for the follow-up posts on the Hoegee Co. HossC, CaliNative and odinthor.

originally posted by odinthor

latimes1906

That's some house!

Here's another view from Gaylordwilshire's website

oldhomesoflosangeles

He covers it as the Dr. Leon Elbert Landone House at 2054 Holly Avenue.

Here's a slightly different view.

oldhomesoflosangeles

so. .um. .what's on top of this hill today?

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my guess is the Hollywood Freeway

Pescara · #**59375** Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 4:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Thanks for the follow-up posts on the Hoegee Co. HossC, CaliNative and odinthor.

originally posted by odinthor

latimes1906

That's some house!

Here's another view from Gaylordwilshire's website

oldhomesoflosangeles

He covers it as the Dr. Leon Elbert Landone House at 2054 Holly Avenue.

Here's a slightly different view.

oldhomesoflosangeles

so. .um. .what's on top of this hill today?

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Wow, do you think the same balcony/terrazza was the same as the original Hoegee Mansion, and kept and reused for the 1927 rebuild, and is still there today at 4320 Cedarhurst Circle ? (as per GW link)

ethereal_reality · #**59376** Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 7:07 PM**

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I jumped the gun. I didn't see the part about the house at 4320 Cedarhurst Circle.

Here's how the home grew over the years

oldhomesoflosangeles

As you can see the beautiful hill was subdivided and sold as lots.

. . .I hate when that happens but I understand why it does. MONEY $ $ $ $

And here's how it looks from the air today.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/43...!4d-118.283998

And from the street.

I messed up. I initially confused GW's website with oldhomesoflosangeles.org

I corrected it in my earlier post....

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ethereal_reality · #**59377** Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 7:41 PM**

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I happened upon this color slide of Hollywood and Vine on eBay.

(no longer listed)

Here's a closer look. it's quite marvelous!

I love it.

... .especially the guy in the high waisted pants walking and reading the newspaper. .and of course the Three Graces.

I can't resist, here's an even closer look.

1953

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ethereal_reality · #**59378** Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 8:30 PM**

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I wrote:.."Now, if someone can locate a Washer Wilson Store next to an unemployment agency we're in business!"

And Lorendoc answered my question.

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Originally Posted by Lorendoc

The Bogardus Employment Agency shared the 416 W 8th address with Washer Wilson in the 1928 CD.

Thanks buddy. I appreciate it.

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