The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread - Page 634

MonctonRad · #**12661** Posted **Oct 7, 2021, 12:11 PM**

Moncton tax base soars as city property values outpace Saint John, Fredericton
Booming real estate markets fuel growth in all cities, but one more than others
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Oct 07, 2021 5:00 AM AT | Last Updated: 4 hours ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...wick-1.6202543

MonctonRad · #**12662** Posted **Oct 9, 2021, 4:14 PM**

The rise in property assessment in the City of Moncton is nearly a billion dollars!

Consequently, the mil rate in the city will fall to $1.5596/$100 from $1.6497/$100 (according to the T&T).

Even despite this, the city's coffers will swell by millions of dollars this year and the city is busily planning on deciding what to do with the windfall (apparently including salary increases for the RCMP).

Mattyyy · #**12663** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 11:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The rise in property assessment in the City of Moncton is nearly a billion dollars!

Consequently, the mil rate in the city will fall to $1.5596/$100 from $1.6497/$100 (according to the T&T).

Even despite this, the city's coffers will swell by millions of dollars this year and the city is busily planning on deciding what to do with the windfall (apparently including salary increases for the RCMP).

How about paying down debt and investing into bringing out downtown into the future? It's need a lot of work.

OliverD · #**12664** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 11:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The rise in property assessment in the City of Moncton is nearly a billion dollars!

Consequently, the mil rate in the city will fall to $1.5596/$100 from $1.6497/$100 (according to the T&T).

Even despite this, the city's coffers will swell by millions of dollars this year and the city is busily planning on deciding what to do with the windfall (apparently including salary increases for the RCMP).

Are RCMP salaries not set by the feds?

MonctonRad · #**12665** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 11:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by OliverD

Are RCMP salaries not set by the feds?

Indeed, but the city negotiates the policing contract with the federal government and I'm not sure what sort of wiggle room there is. One things for sure, police staffing rations in greater Moncton are historically lower than in the other cities in the province because of the high costs of RCMP salaries.

Nashe · #**12666** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 12:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mattyyy

How about paying down debt and investing into bringing out downtown into the future? It's need a lot of work.

They'd have to maintain (or only lower slightly) the per/100 tax rate for that. As is, the city aims for a certain % growth in it's budget per year and adjusts the rate DOWN to get that number, if assessments rise too high. Otherwise you'd see some huge jumps in your taxes. This way, even if assessments rise, your bill won't, as much.

mylesmalley · #**12667** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 2:52 PM**

Worth a read
https://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/...pales/2020.pdf
2020 Municipal Statistics for New Brunswick. Tax rates, tax base, expenditures by category etc...

NBNYer · #**12668** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 3:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Indeed, but the city negotiates the policing contract with the federal government and I'm not sure what sort of wiggle room there is. One things for sure, police staffing rations in greater Moncton are historically lower than in the other cities in the province because of the high costs of RCMP salaries.

I wonder what is the likelihood of Moncton reverting to a municipal police force in the future? It seems to be the norm in other maritime cities.

mylesmalley · #**12669** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 3:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by NBNYer

I wonder what is the likelihood of Moncton reverting to a municipal police force in the future? It seems to be the norm in other maritime cities.

Moncton is one of the few cities over 50k in the country that doesn't have it's own municipal police force.

David_99 · #**12670** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 3:52 PM**

Would a municipal police force require a new 50M headquarters?

JHikka · #**12671** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 3:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by David_99

Would a municipal police force require a new 50M headquarters?

Depends on how much you're willing to bend backwards for them. Ask Saint John how things have gone with their police force.

MonctonRad · #**12672** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 3:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Moncton is one of the few cities over 50k in the country that doesn't have it's own municipal police force.

And we would undoubtedly still have our municipal police force if the province had not forced the RCMP upon us for the Francophonie Summit.

The RCMP is unquestionably a superior police service, but they are expensive, and given the size of the city, I think reversion to a municipal force should be considered.

The new police HQ is a separate issue. The current police station is aging and has issues. I think a replacement is still necessary.

NBNYer · #**12673** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 4:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Ask Saint John how things have gone with their police force.

What's the issue here?

MonctonRad · #**12674** Posted **Oct 18, 2021, 10:36 PM**

from the T&T:

Building Permit Valuation YTD in Greater Moncton

Moncton - $221M ($128M last year)
Dieppe - $69.5M ($59M last year)
Riverview - $49M ($19.8M last year)

So, in the first three quarters of 2021 the total value of building permits issued in greater Moncton has increased to $339.5M compared to $206.8M during the same time period last year.

If the pace of building permits issued stays at the same rate for the remainder of the calendar year, then building permit valuation for 2021 will be over $450M ($452.7M)

Taeolas · #**12675** Posted **Oct 19, 2021, 1:57 AM**

I assume that's the most the Moncton CMA has had?

If they can do similar next year, Moncton itself will be over a quarter billion, possibly at a third of a billion, and the CMA will easily be over half a billion in permit valuation. Very impressive numbers.

CreamOfpumpkin · #**12676** Posted **Oct 25, 2021, 5:03 PM**

98 high street, Harvest House to build a 16 unit low-income low rent unit. They are currently seeking a variance for Balconies. Locals have submitted a petition to the city in order to cancel the development.

drewber · #**12677** Posted **Oct 25, 2021, 8:08 PM**

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98 high street, Harvest House to build a 16 unit low-income low rent unit. They are currently seeking a variance for Balconies. Locals have submitted a petition to the city in order to cancel the development.

Just what we need downtown. High street is the perfect name considering all the crack shacks on it. I hope this gets cancelled but I'm just city hall doesn't give a damn

lirette · #**12678** Posted **Oct 26, 2021, 12:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by drewber

Just what we need downtown. High street is the perfect name considering all the crack shacks on it. I hope this gets cancelled but I'm just city hall doesn't give a damn

With the current state of our public transit system, where would you suggest we build low income housing that will work for you ?

This area looks incredibly run down already. If they put it somewhere nicer you'd likely complain too. If they put it in the suburbs there be an incredible amount of NIMBYS with pitch forks.

Low income housing is part of the long term solution to fix the very problems you are talking about. Although personally the doubts I have around this have nothing to do with location and everything to do with who's doing it, based on the shelter being poorly run.

Jeffwilbur · #**12679** Posted **Oct 26, 2021, 3:48 PM**

Great location, near downtown. Good use of the area

Franco401 · #**12680** Posted **Oct 26, 2021, 8:57 PM**

Some people really do just hate the poor.