Trans Canada Highway Twinning: Segments U/C - Page 113

craner · #**2241** Posted **Jan 18, 2021, 5:52 AM**

^Quartz Creek work getting underway this spring too.
Yeah Baby !!

flipper316 · #**2242** Posted **Jan 24, 2021, 4:39 AM**

https://vancouversun.com/news/trans-...ks-this-spring

Dengler Avenue · #**2243** Posted **Jan 24, 2021, 4:55 AM**

Funny enough, it’s still shorter to detour via 93 then 95 than to take Crowsnest Highway from Medicine Hat all the way to Hope.

Dengler Avenue · #**2244** Posted **Feb 25, 2021, 1:44 AM**

http://chng.it/zpb5G247bb
One of us started a petition regarding the sorry state of highways in Manitoba, particularly the intersection of 1 & 16.

milomilo · #**2245** Posted **Feb 25, 2021, 3:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by flipper316

https://vancouversun.com/news/trans-...ks-this-spring

Good. Short term pain, long term gain. They wisely chose the least problematic time of the year.

eloy · #**2246** Posted **Feb 25, 2021, 9:22 PM**

I've subscribed to the Kicking Horse Canyon project newsletter some time ago and today I got the first notification. The only updates that are not on their site are:

What to expect in March 2021

Construction will ramp up quickly once ground conditions permit. Subject to confirmation in formal notifications and on DriveBC, expect the following in March:

Beginning in early March, single-lane alternating traffic will be common, causing delays of 20-30 minutes.

By the middle of March, there may be closures of up to two hours on weekdays during the late morning, early afternoon and early evening, avoiding peak periods.

Also beginning in mid-March, there may be overnight closures of up to nine hours between 10 pm and 7 am. During these overnight closures, Trans-Canada Highway traffic will be diverted to the alternate route of Highways 93 and 95 through Radium Hot Springs.

eloy · #**2247** Posted **Mar 21, 2021, 10:36 PM**

Latest newsletter from KHCC

Construction and traffic update
March 19, 2021

Construction ramping up

Kicking Horse Canyon Constructors (KHCC) has begun to prepare the Phase 4 work zone for more intense construction activities that will be ramping up over the coming weeks. Expect the following effects on traffic (all times Mountain):

Single-lane alternating traffic causing delays of 20-30 minutes can be expected to continue through to about April 10. Confirming information from KHCC is expected in the near future.

By about March 29, overnight closures can be expected on non-holiday weekdays between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m. These may be preceded by 2-hour evening closures between 7 p.m. and 9 p.m. Confirmation from KHCC will be coming soon.

Extended 24-hour closures will be in effect from May 17 to May 31, except for weekends and the Victoria Day holiday. These are in addition to the 24/7 extended closure previously announced for April 12 - May 14. There will be two half-hour windows daily during which limited local/commuter traffic will be escorted through the construction zone. A commuter pass system will be applied (see below). All other traffic will be routed via Highways 93S and 95.

Formal traffic notifications from KHCC are found on the Traffic Management page of the project website. All of the information above and in the traffic notifications is subject to verification on DriveBC.

Commuter pass system

During the extended closures, arrangements have been made for brief, limited openings to allow escorted passage through the construction zone for school buses, local commuters, selected deliveries and exceptional, urgent local trips. With severely limited capacity, a pass system for regular commuters has been established. See here for more information and application forms for those who qualify.

Mindfulness on the alternate route

Highway 93S from Castle Junction to Radium Hot Springs passes through Kootenay National Park, and brings with it the Parks Canada driving experience of beautiful vistas and abundant wildlife. Highway 95 from Radium to Golden is a scenic rural highway, with limited passing opportunities, frequent wildlife sightings, hidden driveways, and the presence of school buses and children. During traffic diversion periods, expect increased presence and enforcement from RCMP and CVSE (Commercial Vehicle Safety and Enforcement). Motorists are urged to be mindful of these factors on a route that may be unfamiliar to them. Be patient, be safe and be respectful of all road users; observe speed limits, and remember to stop in both directions when school bus lights are flashing.

craner · #**2248** Posted **Mar 22, 2021, 5:35 AM**

Thanks eloy.
Shits gettin’ real

plutonicpanda · #**2249** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 9:23 PM**

Sorry if this has been answered before, but is there a proposed completion date of the full build-out of the Trans Canada Highway? I don't know if there is a broader initiative to really make it an interstate quality road across the country or not. The section from Vancouver to Calgary would likely rival I-70 in Colorado for scenic beauty.

JHikka · #**2250** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 9:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by plutonicpanda

Sorry if this has been answered before, but is there a proposed completion date of the full build-out of the Trans Canada Highway?

In Dengler's dreams, maybe.

Andy6 · #**2251** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 9:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by plutonicpanda

Sorry if this has been answered before, but is there a proposed completion date of the full build-out of the Trans Canada Highway? I don't know if there is a broader initiative to really make it an interstate quality road across the country or not. The section from Vancouver to Calgary would likely rival I-70 in Colorado for scenic beauty.

No, there are no plans of that kind. It is just a series of provincial highways and it would likely never be a priority in Ontario, for example, to spend the billions that would be required to bring hundreds and hundreds of miles of TCH-Highway 17 up to Interstate standards.

Dengler Avenue · #**2252** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

In Dengler's dreams, maybe.

Lol are you mentioning me just because I've been more vocal than swimmer_spe?

I guess there's my signature too.

Acajack · #**2253** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Andy6

No, there are no plans of that kind. It is just a series of provincial highways and it would likely never be a priority in Ontario, for example, to spend the billions that would be required to bring hundreds and hundreds of miles of TCH-Highway 17 up to Interstate standards.

I'd guess there is a pretty good chance that much of the N Ontario and Newfoundland routes (and also perhaps PEI) will never get twinned.

Dengler Avenue · #**2254** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 10:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

I'd guess there is a pretty good chance that much of the N Ontario and Newfoundland routes (and also perhaps PEI) will never get twinned.

It doesn't mean absolutely no improvement, however. M.T.O. seems to have been quietly adding passing lanes, widening shoulders and straightening the alignment here and there, from time to time. In Kenora, if it weren't for that giant boulder, I wouldn't even have known that M.T.O. was widening the shoulder there.
Now that the previous mayor of Schreiber (ON) was killed in a head-on collision on the notorious stretch between Terrace Bay and Marathon, I really hope that more minor will come.

PEI highway guy · #**2255** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 10:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

I'd guess there is a pretty good chance that much of the N Ontario and Newfoundland routes (and also perhaps PEI) will never get twinned.

Living on PEI, There really is really no way to twin the TCH. It runs mostly through farmland and the road is not always straight.

Dengler Avenue · #**2256** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 10:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by PEI highway guy

Living on PEI, There really is really no way to twin the TCH. It runs mostly through farmland and the road is not always straight.

TCH on the Prairies runs through farmland too, yet they have it twinned.

swimmer_spe · #**2257** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 10:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by plutonicpanda

Sorry if this has been answered before, but is there a proposed completion date of the full build-out of the Trans Canada Highway? I don't know if there is a broader initiative to really make it an interstate quality road across the country or not. The section from Vancouver to Calgary would likely rival I-70 in Colorado for scenic beauty.

As others have stated, there is no plan. In BC, there is about 400km on the mainland, and more 1500km in Ontario to do. Then there is the section in NL that is about 900km. At this point there no plans of ever finishing it.

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Originally Posted by JHikka

In Dengler's dreams, maybe.

In his dreams, it is all done.

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Originally Posted by Andy6

No, there are no plans of that kind. It is just a series of provincial highways and it would likely never be a priority in Ontario, for example, to spend the billions that would be required to bring hundreds and hundreds of miles of TCH-Highway 17 up to Interstate standards.

It is at least 1500km just to get from the MB border to Sudbury. It is pushing close to 2000km to get it to Ottawa. It is also another almost 1000km to 4 lane highway 11, which is also the Trans Canada. So, that is in the neighbourhood of 3000km. So, thousands, not hundreds.

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Lol are you mentioning me just because I've been more vocal than swimmer_spe?

I guess there's my signature too.

I am more vocal about doing it right as apposed to doing it. Don't destroy world famous motorcycle riding road for your 4 lanes.

Dengler Avenue · #**2258** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 11:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

As others have stated, there is no plan. In BC, there is about 400km on the mainland, and more 1500km in Ontario to do. Then there is the section in NL that is about 900km. At this point there no plans of ever finishing it.

In his dreams, it is all done.

It is at least 1500km just to get from the MB border to Sudbury. It is pushing close to 2000km to get it to Ottawa. It is also another almost 1000km to 4 lane highway 11, which is also the Trans Canada. So, that is in the neighbourhood of 3000km. So, thousands, not hundreds.

I am more vocal about doing it right as apposed to doing it. Don't destroy world famous motorcycle riding road for your 4 lanes.

That’s the problem. If I’m planning, I’m not gonna go 417 then 11. I’m just gonna do 417 all the way and ignore the 11 altogether. Anything north of Nipissing-Timiskaming Boundary is a political dead duck anyway.

swimmer_spe · #**2259** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 11:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

That’s the problem. If I’m planning, I’m not gonna go 417 then 11. I’m just gonna do 417 all the way and ignore the 11 altogether.

Didn't you tell me 11 is the easier route to twin?

Dengler Avenue · #**2260** Posted **Mar 23, 2021, 11:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Didn't you tell me 11 is the easier route to twin?

It is, but if we’re basing this on AADT which is the main driver...
3.5 options:
(1) Do nothing, at all;
(1A) Twin a bit of either;
(2) 17 all the way, no 11;
(3) 11 all the way, no 17;
(4) both 11 and 17
(1)’s the most likely, followed by (1A), though if I’m to unpack it, twinning a little bit of 17 is much more likely. (2) is based on (1A) being 17 not 11.

Next time you ask me, I should just copy and paste this.

There’s a reason why nothing’s planned for 11 beyond North Bay but 54 km for 17 around Sudbury.