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Originally Posted by exit2lef
I had never heard of the Citizen app before this thread, but apparently it was originally called "Vigilante." I think that alone says a lot about its credibility.
https://www.azmirror.com/2019/10/21/...es-in-phoenix/
That's not to say there isn't real crime on or near light rail, though. There was a murder over the weekend at a park-and-ride in Mesa. There aren't enough details to know if this involved a rail passenger or if a dispute that began somewhere else ended at a transit facility (typical in prior incidents like this). I'm always amazed, though, at victims who call friends or relatives rather than 911. Having paramedics begin treatment in the field usually produces a better outcome, and the hospital can be prepared for the arriving patient. Do they have something to hide or just not trust first responders as much as their own contacts?
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ce/5578318002/ |
Thanks for the link on Citizen app. Their background is something I was unaware of.
That aside, the way calls play out, there's literally no way anyone with access to a dispatch channel alone could ever have anything resembling consistent, accurate information on incidents. Even PD and Fire personnel responding to calls based simply on the initial dispatch would be seriously restricted by a lack of information. 911 calls, and their subsequent dispatches, are entirely a reflection of what some citizen thinks they see; quite often from a distance(many people who call 911 are leary of approaching anyone or anything they're calling about).
I'm not against the lightrail, but it absolutely has brought crime along its path and has changed the make-up of many of those neighborhoods. It's increased the call volume measurably.
I can't speak directly to that particular incident in Mesa in the azcentral article, but it's often the case that someone will not call 911 because, as you said, they have something to hide.
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I'm just trying to pass along that they can't possibly get the meat of the majority of calls. Very little is passed along through radio traffic unless it's a major incident(and even that has limitations for both PD and Fire). 
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