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Unfortunately a 45-50 story tower in this location would have wide-ranging effects on the health of the city's children. The shadow would certainly kill the majority of the city's youth population.
Really? Kill the majority of city's youth population? Jeez, it's a modern tower, not a modern drug.

That area is a goldmine, best to get the crackheads and low income renters out of there, and make it a livable area. That's what is killing that area
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Harley was being very sarcastic.

You can't just 'kick the low income renters' out because, well, if you keep doing that those people will have nowhere to live. Every city needs to have a healthy mix of incomes. This classist bullshit needs to end.
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Unfortunately a 45-50 story tower in this location would have wide-ranging effects on the health of the city's children. The shadow would certainly kill the majority of the city's youth population.
Really? Kill the majority of city's youth population? Jeez, it's a modern tower, not a modern drug.

That area is a goldmine, best to get the crackheads and low income renters out of there, and make it a livable area. That's what is killing that area
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I would have liked to have seen something like this east of King Edward;

-Clean lines, clean design;
-Varying heights;
-Nice, clear entrance;
-Good street level design/interaction.
I have the opposite reaction to the street level design. This doesn't look like a retail facade. It looks like an office building. I would rather have more entrances, more street-scaled signage meant to be read from the sidewalk.
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Too bad they can't turn it into one thinner 45-50 storey tower on top of a target or CanTire like they do in Vancouver. Would really help the appeal of the neighbourhood and stop most of the shadow effect this currently has.
What is the matter with shadows?
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but I prefer this to this.

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great this vs that insert. I like the design looking North up Chapel. seems a lot more interesting than so much of the straight up look and imo is much more original than all the ones going up by King Eddy
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Kinda funny, I had a good buddy use this land for a major project in one of his Architecture midterms.

Heres a link to it in dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zyzz0okkm7...ckage.pdf?dl=0
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The site looks like a mess. The fence is a ramshackle looking thing.
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I have a new computer and I have no idea how to save images from PDFs, but this building has an updated design. If someone is able to, I'd be grateful if you could post it.
Where's the PDF?

UPDATE: Never mind. Found it in the zoning by-law amendment document. http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...ril%202015.PDF



In the master plan document they're showing 38 and 26 storeys for the two towers and the potential for 30 storeys where the motel is next door.

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Looks good to me! Bring some more life into that area and more options for living downtown.
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Where's the PDF?

UPDATE: Never mind. Found it in the zoning by-law amendment document. http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...ril%202015.PDF



In the master plan document they're showing 38 and 26 storeys for the two towers and the potential for 30 storeys where the motel is next door.
great find - I hope they keep momentum while there is still a robust financing market for these projects. Mix this with the proposal for Rideau and Charlotte and the area gets a needed boost.
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That rendering appears to be a 30 story building...
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Trinity slightly scales back proposed Chapel Street towers
Proposal must ‘respect CDP’: Fleury

By Alex Robinson
Ottawa East News, June 23, 2015


A developer has altered its application to build two high-rise towers in Lowertown, slightly reducing the height of the proposed buildings.

Trinity Development Group has applied to build 26- and 28-storey towers at 151 and 153 Chapel St. The residential towers would sit on a mixed-use, nine-storey podium with retail space in the first two levels of the property. Trinity hopes to attract a food store to be the tenant in this space.

Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury said he hoped Trinity would wait to alter their application until after a revision of the Uptown Rideau Community Design Plan was finalized.

“There are no ifs or buts. I want them to respect the CDP,” Fleury said.

The document, which is being updated this summer, recommends densities and heights developers can build to in specific areas.

The CDP, which covers Rideau Street from King Edward Avenue to the Cummins Bridge, in its current form suggests that buildings only up to six stories should appear in the area.

The draft version of the new CDP, which was recently presented to the community, recommends buildings be constructed up to nine storeys along the corridor. It also includes a density transfer policy that would allow developers to build up to 25 storeys on larger lots – such as Trinity’s property on Chapel Street – if they agree to shorter heights on some parts of the property.

The new CDP is expected to be finalized and submitted to city council this fall after public consultation.

“We still want them to wait for the CDP completion,” Fleury said.

“There are still some elements not in line with the CDP, so we still expect them to further revise it.”

Trinity’s original application to build two towers that would be 27 and 32 storeys provoked opposition from the community as well as from Fleury.

The site is the former Ottawa Torah Insitute High School and an old OC Transpo lost and found building.

The new development would have 550 units, down from 785, and 532 parking spaces, down from 721, in an underground lot.

Adjacent to the site are two elementary schools, a two-storey hotel, the Rideau-Chapel Towers, and low-profile commercial uses to the south along Rideau Street.

Representatives for Trinity did not respond to requests for comment.

The developer and expects the building will open in the spring of 2017, according to its website.

Residents can submit comments about the application by July 7 by emailing erin.o’connell@ottawa.ca.

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Although this article is primarily about the proposed Sandy Hill development at 538, 544 and 560 Rideau Street, it does also delve into Trinity's proposal on Chapel Street.

Funny, I would have considered Trinity's proposal on Chapel/Rideau appropriate in terms of height, and the design is nice too. There are other tall buildings right next door, no residential low-rise immediately adjacent, and the area could definitely use a boost...

On the other hand, Richcraft's proposal for Rideau Street is a hideous, grotesque monstrosity...


Sandy Hill group says city ignoring neighbourhood plans

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen

A Sandy Hill community group is calling out the city’s planning department for ignoring a neighbourhood plan that expressly prohibits the kind of development now being recommended for approval.

Action Sandy Hill says an established plan for the area, as well as the new Uptown Rideau community design plan — which should be finished this fall — calls for a height limit of six storeys on the south side of Rideau between Chapel Street and the Rideau River.

Yet planners say the city should approve a Richcraft Homes application to construct buildings of seven and 14 storeys at 538, 544 and 560 Rideau St., as well as a 3.5-storey low-rise apartment at 501 Besserer St., which is a slim parcel of land connected to the Rideau Street property.

The proposal generally meets the intent of Ottawa’s Official Plan, but the planner does acknowledge the proposed building heights exceed what’s currently allowed, which is why Richcraft needs official plan and zoning bylaw amendments.

Chad Rollins, the president of Action Sandy Hill, says community groups are often told design plans are created to give residents a clear idea about the type of developments they could reasonably expect to see approved in their neighbourhood.

In fact, Jan Harder named “increased development certainty” as one of five building blocks for planning in Ottawa during this term of council when she assumed the role of planning committee chair.

And that’s why Rollins says he’s frustrated by the department’s latest recommendation.

“We’ve got these plans, why aren’t they respected after so much city time and money and so much volunteer time?” he said. “These should have some teeth.”

For months, a city planner has been working full-time on the new Uptown Rideau plan, as have dozens of community members who are volunteering their time, and yet, Rollins said, before the thing is even approved, it appears an exception is already being made.

“If people spend all this time and don’t see any actual positive outcome from it, (they) just won’t bother,” he said.

Somerset Coun. Catherine McKenney expressed similar discontent about two weeks ago when the planning committee approved a 27-storey tower on Metcalfe Street, even though it runs counter to the three-year-old community design plan for Centretown.

Efforts to build something on the Rideau Street sites go back more than a decade.

Council approved a zoning bylaw amendment for the main portion of the site, 560 Rideau, in September 2003. It was appealed to the Ontario Municipal Board, which ruled that the site could be developed up to nine storeys. Subsequent to that 2004 decision, Richcraft bought the property to the west and filed the revised proposal, which the planning committee will consider on Tuesday.

The latest iteration initially called for 18 storeys, but that was later reduced to 14 with the tower portion shifted east to corner of Rideau and Cobourg streets.

Rollins said the height is a problem because the lot is too shallow to allow for a proper transition from the highrise building to the low-rise developments behind it.

Meanwhile, Action Sandy Hill was also disappointed to learn Trinity Group is taking its proposal for a development at the corner of Rideau and Chapel streets to the OMB because the city didn’t meet the legislated deadline for responding in time.

The Trinity proposal initially envisioned two towers — one at 27 storeys and the other at 32 storeys, to be located at 151 and 153 Chapel Street — but those heights have since been reduced to 28- and 26-storeys.

A pre-hearing will be held in August.

When Trinity first filed its application last year, Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury said he wanted the company, and others like it, to wait until the community design plan was completed before proposing new developments. He also said his vision for the Rideau Street corridor is a traditional mainstreet with buildings rising to a maximum of nine storeys, with good setbacks, public spaces and ground-floor retail.

On Thursday, the councillor reiterated this position and added it makes little sense for the planning committee to review Richcraft’s application before the committee has approved the new neighbourhood plan.

Fleury isn’t a member of the committee, but said he is exploring mechanisms to delay the consideration of Richcraft’s application.

“I just wish the applicant would wait,” he said.

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