900 Albert St | 234/203/105m | 65/56/23fl | Approved - Page 2

Davis137 · #21 Posted **Mar 5, 2009, 11:00 PM**

I hope they go through with this location...

k2p · #22 Posted **Mar 5, 2009, 11:02 PM**

Sorry, they need to build something that horrendous because of a steep incline? Monte Carlo, Hong Kong, San Francisco, New Zealand, Rio, Italian mountainsides have steep inclines. Scott Street?

p_xavier · #23 Posted **Mar 6, 2009, 12:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by k2p

Sorry, they need to build something that horrendous because of a steep incline? Monte Carlo, Hong Kong, San Francisco, New Zealand, Rio, Italian mountainsides have steep inclines. Scott Street?

Look, it's Ottawa, the same people that think that digging under the canal will result in a flooded subway.

Mille Sabords · #24 Posted **Mar 6, 2009, 2:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by k2p

Sorry, they need to build something that horrendous because of a steep incline? Monte Carlo, Hong Kong, San Francisco, New Zealand, Rio, Italian mountainsides have steep inclines. Scott Street?

I'm with you, and I hope the city kicks their asses out of the building permit office as soon as they show up. This is a pathetic effort.

highdensitysprawl · #25 Posted **Mar 6, 2009, 1:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mille Sabords

I'm with you, and I hope the city kicks their asses out of the building permit office as soon as they show up. This is a pathetic effort.

My experience with the 'building permit' office is that they never question the architectural treatment, FSI, proposed setbacks etc. That is taken care of by the Planners at the City and as long as their is a site plan approval in place, the building permit review people never question it. They are more concerned with Building Code conformity, making sure it meets the zoning, any variances applied for and in full force and effect, development charges paid etc.

Mille Sabords · #26 Posted **Mar 6, 2009, 1:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by highdensitysprawl

My experience with the 'building permit' office is that they never question the architectural treatment, FSI, proposed setbacks etc. That is taken care of by the Planners at the City and as long as their is a site plan approval in place, the building permit review people never question it. They are more concerned with Building Code conformity, making sure it meets the zoning, any variances applied for and in full force and effect, development charges paid etc.

That was a figure of speech, but thanks for the lowdown.

highdensitysprawl · #27 Posted **Mar 6, 2009, 4:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mille Sabords

That was a figure of speech, but thanks for the lowdown.

Pas de probleme.....if ever there was a greater difference between the planning policy wonks and development approvals boffins and the 'pick and shovel' guys in the Building Department, I've yet to find it at City Hall. In many smaller municipalities that I've been involved in, the person who reviews the plans for zoning/site plan issues is also the person who reviews for building permit purposes....

rocketphish · #28 Posted **Mar 13, 2009, 8:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

here's their old proposal('05)

http://www.phoenixhomes.ca/phoenixNe...ber28-2005.pdf

...and here's another old, yet different, rendering from their 2007 Corporate Brochure. Notice that they were still planning to get their hands on the Tom Brown Arena lands as well.

http://www.phoenixhomes.ca/aboutPhoe...pBrochure3.pdf

Maybe the latest plan of theirs will be third time lucky?

cityguy · #29 Posted **Mar 13, 2009, 9:00 PM**

^buildings in this picture appear to be about 22 stories.

citizen j · #30 Posted **Mar 13, 2009, 9:26 PM**

^Which might indicate what they expect to get approved if they propose 31 storeys?

cityguy · #31 Posted **Mar 14, 2009, 10:46 PM**

projects change all the time the picture has 3 main towers,the current proposal has two 31 storey tower with a 4 storey office building.

waterloowarrior · #32 Posted **Oct 25, 2009, 9:27 PM**

streetview of the site

cityguy · #33 Posted **Oct 25, 2009, 11:29 PM**

Proposal signs have been removed.

archie-tect · #34 Posted **Oct 26, 2009, 4:40 PM**

After the commical effort on Somerset I think Pheonix should be banned from developing anywhere near the downtown core. Commical is so bad in this case that you just shake your head since what can you say

cityguy · #35 Posted **Oct 27, 2009, 12:04 AM**

^what?

waterloowarrior · #36 Posted **Mar 30, 2010, 4:04 AM**

DCR/Phoenix lowers City Centre rezoning request
Substitutes 17-storey office building in place of 31-storey condo tower
http://www.obj.ca/Real-Estate/2010-0...ning-request/1
Published on March 29th, 2010
Peter Kovessy
Ottawa Business Journal

An Ottawa developer now plans to build a 24-storey residential tower and a 17-storey office building on a vacant lot west of downtown, according to the city.

The DCR/Phoenix Group is also proposing a four-storey mixed-use building for the 5.35-acre site at 801 Albert St., formerly known as 801 Wellington St.

The property is bordered by the O-Train tracks and is across from the Bayview Transitway Station.

The four-storey building would contain ground-level commercial space and 15 residential units while the 24-storey tower would contain 184 units and four levels of underground parking.

The 17-storey office tower, meanwhile, would be approximately 405,000 square feet.

Proposals for the site go back at least as far as 2003.

That’s when a rezoning request was submitted to allow for a residential development consisting of townhouses, stacked townhouses and an apartment building.

The project was to be incorporated in the Ottawa’s north-south light-rail line but came to a halt when city council cancelled the rapid transit plan.

It was then put on hold while new water mains were constructed through the site.

In 2007, the developer proposed two 19-storey towers. It came back in early 2009 with a site plan proposing two 31-storey residential high-rises and a four-storey office building for the site.

Vincent P. Colizza was the architect who prepared that previous site plan. Larocque Levstek prepared the landscape plan.

The latest rezoning request will be considered by the city’s planning and environment committee on April 27.

Jamaican-Phoenix · #37 Posted **Mar 30, 2010, 4:09 AM**

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This was as close to perfect as we're gonna get for a 31 storey tower!

jcollins · #38 Posted **Mar 30, 2010, 11:25 AM**

Ya that's a shame. I guess they saw the writing on the wall.

Went from a great project (height wise - not sure about design) to a ho hum project.

blackjagger · #39 Posted **Mar 30, 2010, 12:38 PM**

24 storey residential roughly 75m and 17 storey office roughly 70m is good density, especially for this location and its distance from the CBD. I would rather see this height with a proposal that has good street interaction and does not suffer from the tower in the park syndrome that there site plan on page one shows. Lets hope that this proposal goes somewhere.

Cheers,
Josh

waterloowarrior · #40 Posted **Mar 30, 2010, 4:14 PM**

Here's the updated landscape plan, not really looking more urban
http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...12-09-0004.PDF