Canada's Tallest U/C #11 - #30 - Page 453

Martin Mtl · #**9041** Posted **Apr 24, 2021, 12:47 PM**

National Bank HQ by drone_ciel

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yaletown_fella · #**9042** Posted **Apr 24, 2021, 3:57 PM**

That pedestrian realm and little park west of Evo looks so suburban and depressing! Reminds me of a lot of the dead greenspace around BC Place or the park space with the stunted red pines around the Rogers Centre and Roundhouse.

Hopefully the street level of National Bank freshens things up.

I dont understand the desire to place little parks on huge roaring arterials, theyd be better off in more sheltered courtyards.

craner · #**9043** Posted **Apr 24, 2021, 5:59 PM**

Ha, that’s funny, I had the complete opposite reaction when I saw that green space - I think it looks nice and feels good there. I could hang-out comfortably there and watch some construction.

To each their own I guess.

koops65 · #**9044** Posted **Apr 25, 2021, 3:59 AM**

Tallest #11-30 U/C diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=93053909

SkahHigh · #**9045** Posted **Apr 25, 2021, 1:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by yaletown_fella

That pedestrian realm and little park west of Evo looks so suburban and depressing! Reminds me of a lot of the dead greenspace around BC Place or the park space with the stunted red pines around the Rogers Centre and Roundhouse.

Hopefully the street level of National Bank freshens things up.

I dont understand the desire to place little parks on huge roaring arterials, theyd be better off in more sheltered courtyards.

It’s the tip of a huge park which is honestly quite nice. It replaced the elevated Bonaventure Expressway.

SkahHigh · #**9046** Posted **Apr 25, 2021, 4:31 PM**

Other Montreal projects on this list.

1 Square Phillips

by me

Maestria

by me

900 Saint-Jacques

by Alex514 on Agora Montréal

Victoria sur le Parc

by Archie on Agora Montréal

isaidso · #**9047** Posted **Apr 27, 2021, 1:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by yaletown_fella

That pedestrian realm and little park west of Evo looks so suburban and depressing! Reminds me of a lot of the dead greenspace around BC Place or the park space with the stunted red pines around the Rogers Centre and Roundhouse.

Hopefully the street level of National Bank freshens things up.

I dont understand the desire to place little parks on huge roaring arterials, theyd be better off in more sheltered courtyards.

Agree 100%. Kudos for them trying to make something out of nothing but it was doomed from the start. They were attempting to turn what is basically a highway meridian into a oasis people use for relaxation, peace, and quiet. It would have been wiser to get rid of the meridian and re-align the southbound lanes next to the northbound lanes. They could then have usable space on the west side of the road for buildings.

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh

It’s the tip of a huge park which is honestly quite nice. It replaced the elevated Bonaventure Expressway.

You and I have vastly different ideas about 'nice'. Mont Royal is nice. Bryant Park is nice. I wouldn't want to spend 10 seconds in this space above. It's awful.

SkahHigh · #**9048** Posted **Apr 27, 2021, 2:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

You and I have vastly different ideas about 'nice'. Mont Royal is nice. Bryant Park is nice. I wouldn't want to spend 10 seconds in this space above. It's awful.

I believe it’s easy for you to say that based on a picture when you’ve never spent a second in it. In a non-pandemic setting, it’s busy in peak times which means that people find it enjoyable enough to spend time in it. It has a killer view of the skyline (opposite angle of this photo).

Sure it’s not ideal given the location but as the trees grow it will get nicer.

Djesus777 · #**9049** Posted **Apr 27, 2021, 2:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Agree 100%. Kudos for them trying to make something out of nothing but it was doomed from the start. They were attempting to turn what is basically a highway meridian into a oasis people use for relaxation, peace, and quiet. It would have been wiser to get rid of the meridian and re-align the southbound lanes next to the northbound lanes. They could then have usable space on the west side of the road for buildings.

You and I have vastly different ideas about 'nice'. Mont Royal is nice. Bryant Park is nice. I wouldn't want to spend 10 seconds in this space above. It's awful.

That's hilarious considering it has gotten International recognition and awards for urban design and has been used as an example of urban transformation for other cities. Plus when it's warm out, I always see people having picnics, working out, tanning, playing ping-pong or with their families. It's a great urban park and it once again shows how Montreal is ahead of other cities in N.A when it comes to this

Zeej · #**9050** Posted **Apr 27, 2021, 2:20 PM**

It's obviously not the city's best public space, but it's really not bad at all, considering the constraints it had to deal with in its inception.

It also has had the effect of spurring development on the adjacent parcels of land as, unsurprisingly, a new linear park is more attractive to live next to than an expressway.

Even the rail viaduct (right-side of the photo) has slowly opened spaces for retail.

It's a net plus for the area.

hipster duck · #**9051** Posted **Apr 27, 2021, 2:26 PM**

I can't comment on that park, but what's with the suburban strip mall of a Bureau en Gros to the immediate south? Complete with free surface parking! What are they holding out for?

SkahHigh · #**9052** Posted **Apr 27, 2021, 2:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zeej

It's obviously not the city's best public space, but it's really not bad at all, considering the constraints it had to deal with in its inception.

It also has had the effect of spurring development on the adjacent parcels of land as, unsurprisingly, a new linear park is more attractive to live next to than an expressway.

Even the rail viaduct (right-side of the photo) has slowly opened spaces for retail.

It's a net plus for the area.

+1. Well resumed.

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Originally Posted by hipster duck

I can't comment on that park, but what's with the suburban strip mall of a Bureau en Gros to the immediate south? Complete with free surface parking! What are they holding out for?

With the real estate pressure Downtown it will be gone sooner than later.

Martin Mtl · #**9053** Posted **Apr 27, 2021, 2:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Agree 100%. Kudos for them trying to make something out of nothing but it was doomed from the start. They were attempting to turn what is basically a highway meridian into a oasis people use for relaxation, peace, and quiet. It would have been wiser to get rid of the meridian and re-align the southbound lanes next to the northbound lanes. They could then have usable space on the west side of the road for buildings.

You and I have vastly different ideas about 'nice'. Mont Royal is nice. Bryant Park is nice. I wouldn't want to spend 10 seconds in this space above. It's awful.

This replace an elevated expressway. It's brand new, with trees not grown yet. To call it awful it's just wrong.

GreaterMontréal · #**9054** Posted **Apr 27, 2021, 11:17 PM**

It's gonna be a nice park once the trees will be mature enough to give a good shade.

GeneralLeeTPHLS · #**9055** Posted **May 1, 2021, 1:07 AM**

14. M City M2 - / Mississauga ON/ 61 Floors / / 201 meters
17. M City – M1 - / Mississauga ON / 197.8 m / 60 floors
For the sake of this thread...I'll post a few images of this project from today...the rest will be in it's own project thread.

Construction in Mississauga by Draulerin Photographics, on Flickr

Martin Mtl · #**9056** Posted **May 5, 2021, 4:48 PM**

National Bank HQ - may 5th 2021

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Victoria sur le Parc (left), National Bank HQ (right) - may5th 2021

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digitboy · #**9057** Posted **May 5, 2021, 7:55 PM**

^ Thanks for the pics Martin Mtl ! Can't wait to see the final result.

AuxTown · #**9058** Posted **May 5, 2021, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh

It’s the tip of a huge park which is honestly quite nice. It replaced the elevated Bonaventure Expressway.

When I stay in Montreal for work/conferences I always run from my hotel downtown and this park is actually quite a nice way to connect the downtown area to Lachine/Griffintown. Much nicer running there than down the narrow streets with warehouses/construction sites nearby.

WhipperSnapper · #**9059** Posted **May 5, 2021, 11:25 PM**

Awards are a dime a dozen. Just need to apply.

It doesn't look terrible. I appreciate the percentage of hard surface to soft surface. However, it suffers the same as many parks in this era. Design takes precedence over functionality. The meandering pathway design is cool but creates soft spaces that aren't of any use other than to walk past. Maybe a green park corridor between two busy streets would be served better with more hardscapes softened by colourful flower beds, water features surrounding patios with commercial activity than useless lawns and closely spaced saplings and light standards

Martin Mtl · #**9060** Posted **May 20, 2021, 3:53 PM**

National Bank tower by Yabucoa77 on agoramtl.com