US Cities by Workers Using Public Transportation, 2019

dimondpark · #1 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 3:27 AM**

These are the only cities proper the census bureau has data on for 2019.

US Cities by Number of Workers Using Public Transportation, 2019
2,242,092 New York, NY
385,018 Chicago, IL
191,018 San Francisco, CA
181,698 Philadelphia, PA
177,099 Los Angeles, CA
131,786 Washington, DC
128,238 Boston, MA
115,989 Seattle, WA
70,159 Jersey City, NJ
58,277 Oakland, CA
49,103 Portland, OR
44,475 Arlington, VA
42,471 Houston, TX
42,249 Baltimore, MD
31,868 Denver, CO
29,069 San Diego, CA
28,995 Minneapolis, MN
27,458 Pittsburgh, PA
26,089 San Jose, CA
25,969 Atlanta, GA
25,792 Newark, NJ
24,500 Phoenix, AZ
23,523 Dallas, TX
23,487 Yonkers, NY
22,111 San Antonio, TX
20,749 Cambridge, MA
20,019 Honolulu, HI
19,391 Detroit, MI
19,304 Miami, FL
18,799 Austin, TX
18,514 Milwaukee, WI
18,048 Alexandria, VA
17,549 Berkeley, CA
16,294 Somerville, MA
16,077 Charlotte, NC
15,861 Union City, NJ
14,982 Madison, WI
14,727 Columbus, OH
14,454 St Paul, MN
14,231 Daly City, CA
13,573 Quincy, MA
13,070 Cleveland, OH
12,584 Silver Spring, MD
10,519 Bellevue, WA
10,282 Buffalo, NY
10,280 Fremont, CA
10,187 Aurora, CO
10,017 Long Beach, CA
9,714 Louisville, KY
9,528 Alameda, CA
9,425 New Orleans, LA
9,353 Salt Lake City, UT
9,031 St Louis, MO
8,950 San Leandro, CA
8,911 Stamford, CT
8,858 Naperville, IL
8,756 Nashville, TN
8,479 Sacramento, CA
8,250 Jacksonville, FL
8,221 Cincinnati, OH
8,041 Richmond, VA
7,729 San Mateo, CA
7,712 Richmond, CA
7,519 Paradise, NV
7,473 Las Vegas, NV
7,406 Bridgeport, CT
7,095 Concord, CA
7,058 New Haven, CT
7,022 Providence, RI
6,974 Aurora, IL
6,955 Rochester, NY
6,890 Newton, MA
6,850 Kansas City, MO
6,774 Hayward, CA
6,579 Tacoma, WA
6,412 Durham, NC
6,405 Elizabeth, NJ
6,264 Indianapolis, IN
6,208 Hartford, CT
6,126 East Los Angeles, CA
6,116 Tucscon, AZ
6,019 Albany, NY
5,912 Albuquerque, NJ
5,912 Ann Arbor, MI
5,785 Norfolk, VA
5,775 Anaheim, CA
5,748 Syracuse, NY
5,514 Pasadena, CA
5,471 Passaic, NJ
5,423 Santa Ana, CA
5,299 Sunnyvale, CA
5,199 Iowa City, IA
5,103 Boulder, CO
5,056 St Petersburg, FL
4,890 Greensboro, NC
4,736 Glendale, AZ
4,700 Miami Beach, FL
4,627 Lakewood, CO
4,619 Tempe, AZ
4,474 Inglewood, CA
4,394 Raleigh, NC
4,386 Sunrise Manor, NV
4,295 Garland, TX
4,271 Renton, WA
4,189 Paterson, NJ
4,164 Chula Vista, CA
4,150 Springfield, MA
4,081 Provo, UT
4,072 Antioch, CA
3,885 Riverside, CA
3,786 Reno, NV
3,749 Gresham, OR
3,743 Mesa, AZ
3,585 Spokane, WA
3,576 Grand Rapids, MI
3,544 Hollywood, FL
3,542 Vancouver, WA
3,536 El Paso, TX
3,464 Brockton, MA
3,437 Rochester, MN
3,418 Newport News, VA
3,414 Tallahassee, FL
3,405 Tampa, FL
3,333 Worcester, MA
3,277 Savannah, GA
3,256 Cicero, IL
3,248 Fresno, CA
3,168 Schenectady, NY
3,199 Gainesville, FL
3,197 Lexington, KY
3,105 Lansing, MI
3,098 Redwood City, CA
3,071 North Las Vegas, NV
3,022 Fort Worth, TX
2,962 Stockton, CA
2,928 Eugene, OR
2,911 Springfield, MO
2,842 Allentown, PA
2,827 Fort Lauderdale, FL
2,778 Arvada, CO
2,746 Santa Clarita, CA
2,690 Spring Valley, NV
2,643 Athens, GA
2,580 Auburn, WA
2,570 Knoxville, TN
2,518 Baton Rouge, LA
2,470 El Monte, CA
2,495 Elk Grove, CA
2,412 Hialeah, FL
2,411 South Gate, CA
2,399 Oklahoma City, OK
2,390 Toledo, OH
2,385 Glendale, CA
2,377 Joliet, IL
2,366 Des Moines, IA
2,321 Dayton, OH
2,319 Orlando, FL
2,309 Virginia Beach, FL
2,297 Hawthorne, CA
2,233 Bloomington, IN
2,159 Henderson, NV
2,129 Oceanside, CA
2,115 Columbia, SC
2,098 Thornton, CO
2,074 Fullerton, CA
2,011 Salem, OR
1,989 El Cajon, CA
1,979 Dale City, VA
1,973 Akron, OH
1,955 Lowell, MA
1,954 Duluth, MN
1,939 Bakersfield, CA
1,935 Fort Collins, CO
1,919 Reading, PA
1,887 Garden Grove, CA
1,854 Laredo, TX
1,818 Bloomington, MN
1,796 Fort Wayne, IN
1,783 Winston-Salem, NC
1,760 Augusta, GA
1,699 Wichita, KS
1,696 Birmingham, AL
1,687 Santa Rosa, CA
1,656 West Palm Beach, FL
1,621 Lawrence, MA
1,607 Chandler, AZ
1,587 Memphis, TN
1,584 Pomona, CA
1,560 Tulsa, OK
1,558 Hampton, VA
1,521 Springfield, IL
1,508 Elgin, IL
1,494 Chattanooga, TN
1,478 Ventura, CA
1,434 Anchorage, AK
1,405 Escondido, CA
1,393 Orange, CA
1,386 South Bend, IN
1,373 West Jordan, UT
1,311 Denton, TX
1,310 Upland, CA
1,292 Plano, TX
1,278 Ontario, CA
1,269 Corpus Christi, TX
1,262 Sandy, UT
1,236 Colorado Springs, CO
1,154 Irvine, CA
1,136 Erie, PA
1,126 Fontana, CA
1,121 Costa Mesa, CA
1,099 Orem, UT
1,096 Little Rock, AZ
1,051 Laredo, TX
1,030 Charleston, SC
914 Bethlehem, PA
902 Corona, CA
883 Fayetteville, NC
819 Green Bay, WI
796 Mobile, AL
776 Arlington, TX
766 Boise, HI
727 Vacaville, CA
675 Lawton, OK
661 Portland, ME
636 Davenport, IA
626 Sioux Falls, SD
577 Columbus, GA
544 Salinas, CA
483 Scottsdale, AZ
442 Wilmington, NC
388 Gilbert, AZ
351 Wichita Falls, TX
282 Huntington Beach, CA
269 Rapids, IA
171 Greeley, CO
47 Jacksonville, NC

US Cities by Percent of Workers Using Public Transportation, 2019
55.59% New York, NY
49.29% Jersey City, NJ
41.26% Union City, NJ
36.31% San Francisco, CA
34.15% Washington, DC
31.98% Boston, MA
29.95% Somerville, MA
29.76% Arlington, VA
29.09% Cambridge, MA
28.43% Berkeley, CA
28.37% Chicago, IL
26.95% Philadelphia, PA
25.73% Silver Spring, MD
25.55% Oakland, CA
25.49% Yonkers, NY
25.13% Seattle, WA
25.11% Quincy, MA
23.82% Alameda, CA
23.74% Daly City, CA
21.50% Newark, NJ
18.23% San Leandro, CA
17.93% Alexandria, VA
17.87% Passaic, NJ
17.31% Pittsburgh, PA
15.40% Baltimore, MD
14.95% Newton, MA
14.59% Portland, OR
14.33% Richmond, CA
13.08% Bellevue, WA
12.94% San Mateo, CA
12.50% Stamford, CT
12.17% Albany, NY
11.86% Iowa City, IA
11.86% Minneapolis, MN
11.58% Bridgeport, CT
11.40% Fremont, CA
11.28% Hartford, CT
11.26% New Haven, CT
11.21% Jersey City, NJ
11.10% Naperville, IL
10.99% Honolulu, HI
10.91% Paterson, NJ
10.89% East Los Angeles, CA
10.65% Schenectady, NY
10.59% Concord, CA
9.97% Atlanta, GA
9.73% Miami Beach, FL
9.61% Ann Arbor, MI
9.51% Madison, WI
9.28% Hayward, CA
9.11% Hayward, CA
9.03% St Paul, MN
8.85% Syracuse, NY
8.75% Los Angeles, CA
8.71% Boulder, CO
8.51% Cicero, IL
8.21% Cleveland, OH
8.19% Inglewood, CA
8.04% Providence, RI
8.03% Salt Lake City, UT
7.94% Antioch, CA
7.87% Renton, WA
7.86% Miami, FL
7.72% Brockton, MA
7.54% Detroit, MI
7.46% Rochester, NY
7.25% Pasadena, CA
7.20% Denver, CO
6.92% Gresham, OR
6.86% Milwaukee, WI
6.71% Aurora, IL
6.50% Richmond, VA
6.38% Redwood City, CA
6.30% Springfield, MA
6.29% Auburn, WA
6.20% Sunnyvale, CA
5.98% Provo, UT
5.94% Everett, WA
5.91% St Louis, MO
5.88% Tacoma, WA
5.82% Erie, PA
5.82% South Gate, CA
5.81% Paradise, NV
5.59% Bellingham, WA
5.57% Sunrise Manor, NV
5.54% Hawthorne, CA
5.43% Bloomington, IN
5.40% Lakewood, CO
5.36% Cincinnati
5.34% Reading, PA
5.32% Allentown, PA
5.15% Lansing, MI
5.05% Aurora, CO
5.05% New Orleans, LA
4.98% Gainesville, FL
4.96% San Jose, CA
4.73% Dale City, VA
4.67% Savannah, GA
4.54% El Monte, CA
4.49% Hollywood, FL
4.47% Athens, GA
4.38% Norfolk, VA
4.34% Durham, NC
4.29% Duluth, MN
4.29% Long Beach, CA
4.23% Tempe, AZ
4.22% Dayton, OH
4.21% Arvada, CO
4.10% Lawrence, MA
4.05% Glendale, AZ
4.03% El Cajon, CA
3.94% Bloomington, MN
3.94% Vancouver, WA
3.93% Newport News, VA
3.87% San Diego, CA
3.83% Springfield, MO
3.78% Houston, TX
3.68% Garland, TX
3.61% St Petersburg, FL
3.53% Worcester, MA
3.49% Dallas, TX
3.49% Grand Rapids, MI
3.47% Rochester, MN
3.47% Tallahassee, FL
3.46% Spokane, WA
3.43% Eugene, OR
3.43% Greensboro, NC
3.39% Sacramento, CA
3.35% Charlotte, NC
3.33% Santa Ana, CA
3.29% Austin, TX
3.25% Joliet, IL
3.23% Columbia, SC
3.23% Louisville, KY
3.22% Chula Vista, CA
3.21% Upland, CA
3.16% Lowell, MA
3.15% West Palm Beach, FL
3.14% Anaheim, CA
3.11% Fullerton, CA
3.10% Springfield, IL
3.01% Columbus, OH
2.98% San Antonio, TX
2.96% Elk Grove, CA
2.95% Fort Lauderdale, FL
2.94% South Bend, IN
2.93% Phoenix, AZ
2.80% Elgin, IL
2.77% Knoxville, TN
2.73% Reno, NV
2.73% Ventura, CA
2.68% Santa Clarita, CA
2.65% Kansas City, MO
2.63% North Las Vegas, NV
2.59% Sandy, UT
2.55% Salem, OR
2.51% Las Vegas, NV
2.47% Riverside, CA
2.46% Bethlehem, PA
2.38% Glendale, CA
2.38% Tucson, AZ
2.36% Stockton, CA
2.34% Nashville, TN
2.33% Hampton, VA
2.33% Oceanside, CA
2.32% Spring Valley, NV
2.26% Garden Grove, CA
2.25% West Jordan, UT
2.24% San Bernardino, CA
2.23% Pomona, CA
2.22% Orem, UT
2.21% Des Moines, IA
2.16% Hialeah, FL
2.15% Albuquerque, NM
2.11% Akron, OH
2.04% Orange, CA
2.04% Toledo, OH
2.00% Augusta, GA
1.99% Fort Collins, CO
1.98% Lexington, KY
1.96% Escondido, CA
1.89% Santa Rosa, CA
1.85% Torrance, CA
1.82% Jacksonville, FL
1.78% Costa Mesa, CA
1.75% Raleigh, NC
1.73% Denton, TX
1.72% Tampa, FL
1.71% Birmingham, AL
1.70% Portland, ME
1.66% Laredo, TX
1.65% Chattanooga, TN
1.61% Vacaville, CA
1.58% Winston-Salem, NC
1.53% Lawton, OK
1.52% Green Bay, WI
1.49% Indianapolis, IN
1.49% Mesa, AZ
1.48% Fresno, CA
1.46% Orlando, FL
1.45% Henderson, NV
1.42% Ontario, CA
1.40% Fort Wayne, IN
1.35% Charleston, SC
1.32% Davenport, IA
1.22% Bakersfield, CA
1.17% Chandler, AZ
1.16% El Paso, TX
1.14% Fontana, CA
1.12% Little Rock, AR
1.10% Corona, CA
0.95% Mobile, AL
0.93% Virginia Beach, VA
0.94% Anchorage, AK
0.89% Irving, TX
0.89% Wichita, KS
0.85% Corpus Christi, TX
0.85% Fayetteville, NC
0.84% Plano, TX
0.81% Irvine, CA
0.81% Laredo, TX
0.81% Salinas, CA
0.81% Tulsa, OK
0.75% Oklahoma City, OK
0.75% Wilmington, NC
0.68% Columbus, GA
0.68% Fort Worth, TX
0.68% Wichita Falls, TX
0.62% Boise, ID
0.61% Sioux Falls, SD
0.54% Memphis, TN
0.50% Colorado Springs, CO
0.46% Baton Rouge, LA
0.39% Arlington, TX
0.39% Rapids, IA
0.35% Scottsdale, AZ
0.31% Greeley, CO
0.30% Gilbert, AZ
0.27% Huntington Beach, CA
0.11% Jacksonville, NC

SOURCE: data.census.gov

dimondpark · #2 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 4:07 AM**

Here is the list by Metropolitan Statistical Areas

MSAs by Number of Workers Using Public Transportation, 2019
3,000,640 New York-Newark-Jersey City
584,804 Chicago-Naperville-Elgin
461,832 San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley
440,972 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria
353,924 Boston-Cambridge-Newton
310,932 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim
282,412 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington
224,965 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue
88,881 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach
88,051 Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington
85,160 Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro
83,142 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta
82,685 Baltimore-Towson
69,104 Pittsburgh
65,870 Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land
48,552 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington
47,745 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara
47,478 San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad
42,925 Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler
31,231 Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise
29,006 Cleveland-Elyria
28,450 Detroit-Warren-Dearborn
24,622 Sacramento-Roseville-Folsom
23,880 Milwaukee-Waukesha
23,672 San Antonio-New Braunfels
23,492 Providence-Warwick
23,134 Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown
22,987 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario
22,420 St Louis
21,386 Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia
18,214 Columbus
16,555 Cincinnati
16,285 Tampa-St Petersburg-Clearwater
16,014 Buffalo-Cheektowaga
15,040 Hartford-East Hartford-Middletown
14,526 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News
13,250 New Orleans-Metairie
11,764 Lousville-Jefferson County
11,352 Richmond
10,840 Nashville-Davidson-Mufreesboro-Franklin
9,821 Rochester
9,382 Jacksonville
9,183 Kansas City
7,551 Tucson
7,510 Grand Rapids-Kentwood
7,101 Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson
5,463 Raleigh-Cary
3,190 Oklahoma City
2,336 Birmingham-Hoover
2,116 Memphis

MSAs by Percentage of Workers Using Public Transportation, 2019
31.6% New York-Newark-Jersey City
18.9% San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley
13.3% Boston-Cambridge-Newton
13.0% Washington-Arlington-Alexandria
12.3% Chicago-Naperville-Elgin
10.6% Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue
9.3% Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington
6.6% Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro
6.0% Pittsburgh
5.2% Baltimore-Towson
4.7% Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim
4.7% San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara
4.5% Denver-Aurora-Lakewood
4.4% Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington
3.4% Providence-Warwick
3.4% Salt Lake City
2.9% Buffalo-Cheektowaga
2.9% Milwaukee-Waukesha
2.8% Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise
2.8% Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach
2.8% San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad
2.7% Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta
2.6% Cleveland-Elyria
2.4% Hartford-East Hartford-Middletown
2.1% New Orleands-Metairie
2.1% Sacramento-Roseville-Folsom
1.9% Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown
1.9% Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land
1.8% San Antonio-New Braunfels
1.7% Louisville-Jefferson County
1.7% Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler
1.7% Rochester
1.7% St Louis
1.6% Columbus
1.6% Richmond
1.5% Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia
1.5% Tucson
1.5% Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News
1.4% Cincinnati
1.3% Detroit-Warren-Dearborn
1.2% Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington
1.2% Grand Rapids-Kentwood
1.1% Jacksonville
1.1 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario
1.0% Tampa-St Petersburg-Clearwater
0.9% Nashville-Davidson-Mufreesboro-Franklin
0.8% Kansas City
0.7% Raleigh-Cary
0.6% Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson
0.4% Memphis
0.4% Oklahoma City
0.3% Birmingham-Hoover

SOURCE: data.census.gov

SIGSEGV · #3 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 4:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by dimondpark

3.78% Houston, TX
3.49% Dallas, TX
3.01% Columbus, OH
2.98% San Antonio, TX
2.34% Nashville, TN
1.75% Raleigh, NC
1.49% Indianapolis, IN
0.68% Fort Worth, TX

ouch. On the other hand:

Quote:

11.10% Naperville, IL

That seems maybe too high?

mhays · #4 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 4:59 AM**

So....one pretty good by percentage, six also not pathetic...

bnk · #5 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 5:26 AM**

Thats a massive list and a lot of data but a lot of the lower tier cites have not heavy or light rail. Besides busses what is included in public transportation?

Taxi's, Uber? Just wondering where this data is coming from. I know it is from data census but what is their definition? Does car pooling count?

SIGSEGV · #6 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 5:38 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnk

Thats a massive list and a lot of data but a lot of the lower tier cites have not heavy or light rail. Besides busses what is included in public transportation?

Taxi's, Uber? Just wondering where this data is coming from. I know it is from data census but what is their definition? Does car pooling count?

The categories the census uses, as far as I know, are:

Drive Alone
Carpool
Public Transit
Bicycle
Walk
Work from Home
Taxi, motorcycle or other

Presumably Uber would be counted in the latter, although it's possible that this study added those to public transit.

Crawford · #7 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 11:13 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

That seems maybe too high?

It's % of workers, not % of residents, and I believe Naperville is the busiest station on the busiest Metra line. Even though that area is pretty sprawly, I could see a high % of commuters using Metra.

Only about half of people are employed though (children, retired, unemployed, stay-at-home, etc.), so I'm not sure that using commuter modal share is the best proxy for an area's relative transit orientation.

Steely Dan · #8 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 12:47 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford

It's % of workers, not % of residents, and I believe Naperville is the busiest station on the busiest Metra line. Even though that area is pretty sprawly, I could see a high % of commuters using Metra.

Route 59, on naperville's extreme western edge, is actually Metra's busiest non-downtown station, and the naperville station itself is #2.

Naperville is very highly focused around downtown workers who use metra, but both of those stations are surrounded by absolutely gargantuan park and ride lots, so most of the people are still driving their cars to those stations.

So napervilles's transit commute share % is not functionally the same as minneapolis' or jersey city's, even though they're all around 11%.

Crawford · #9 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 12:59 PM**

Jersey City commute share is nearly the same as NYC, so I think there was an error in posting the numbers.

sopas ej · #10 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 1:09 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

The categories the census uses, as far as I know, are:

Drive Alone
Carpool
Public Transit
Bicycle
Walk
Work from Home
Taxi, motorcycle or other

Presumably Uber would be counted in the latter, although it's possible that this study added those to public transit.

I don't see how Uber would be counted as public transit; it's no different than a private taxi company, apart from their not being subject to DOT laws. And by their own definition, their drivers aren't even their employees... they even use their own personal vehicles. I'm thinking Uber is "other."

dimondpark · #11 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 1:36 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford

Jersey City commute share is nearly the same as NYC, so I think there was an error in posting the numbers.

Well, I get 49% for Jersey City and 55% for New York, however, I welcome your fresh set of eyes, maybe you'll come up with a different figure...

MonkeyRonin · #12 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 2:16 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford

Jersey City commute share is nearly the same as NYC, so I think there was an error in posting the numbers.

If it's by workers working in each city as opposed to residents, then intuitively at least, that sounds right. Most workers in downtown Jersey City would be getting there by PATH, commuter trains, or ferry, no?

Crawford · #13 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 2:23 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimondpark

Well, I get 49% for Jersey City and 55% for New York, however, I welcome your fresh set of eyes, maybe you'll come up with a different figure...

Right, those numbers make sense.

Read the previous posts, as it seems Jersey City is listed twice, once with the 49%, and then with 11%.

Crawford · #14 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 2:25 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

If it's by workers working in each city as opposed to residents, then intuitively at least, that sounds right. Most workers in downtown Jersey City would be getting there by PATH, commuter trains, or ferry, no?

Yes, but this is commute share by city residents, not workers.

I imagine the transit share of inbound commuters to JC is not that different from NYC, but obviously many of these workers, in both cases, aren't working in the respective cores.

Crawford · #15 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 2:28 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej

I don't see how Uber would be counted as public transit; it's no different than a private taxi company, apart from their not being subject to DOT laws. And by their own definition, their drivers aren't even their employees... they even use their own personal vehicles. I'm thinking Uber is "other."

I wonder how privatized and informal transit are counted.

Obviously in the developing world, most non-auto transit is private or informal, but even in the developed world, it isn't uncommon. Northern NJ, especially, has a ton of private buses and vans, and it's also common in Chinese, West Indian and Hasidic Jewish neighborhoods in the Outer Boroughs.

If you walk down Flatbush or Nostrand Avenues in southern Brooklyn you'll see more private vans/buses than MTA buses. These are colloquially called "dollar vans" and are immigrant-run competitors to the public system.

dimondpark · #16 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 2:47 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford

Right, those numbers make sense.

Read the previous posts, as it seems Jersey City is listed twice, once with the 49%, and then with 11%.

Sorry, I goofed. I wish the census bureau made it possible for users to create lists through their site--then human error would be less of a factor.

Bikemike · #17 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 4:41 PM**

LA numbers are abysmal, and perfectly reflect how car-dependent is its built environment and urban culture. These numbers are one of the largest reasons I left: It would take two generations until LA develops an urban culture commensurate with its size. New developments are just lipstick on a pig, with their huge underground garages and curb-cuts. After living in Berlin and Tokyo, LA is so underwhelming. 4.7% of commuters use transit in LA, vs 1.9% for Houston. Splitting hairs about not mattering.

pacarlson · #18 Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 11:59 PM**

Laredo, TX is listed twice with 2 different numbers.

streetscaper · #19 Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 1:42 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford

I wonder how privatized and informal transit are counted.

Obviously in the developing world, most non-auto transit is private or informal, but even in the developed world, it isn't uncommon. Northern NJ, especially, has a ton of private buses and vans, and it's also common in Chinese, West Indian and Hasidic Jewish neighborhoods in the Outer Boroughs.

If you walk down Flatbush or Nostrand Avenues in southern Brooklyn you'll see more private vans/buses than MTA buses. These are colloquially called "dollar vans" and are immigrant-run competitors to the public system.

Yeah, here's a map someone made on the many different routes for the jitneys. Many of these routes have less than 1-minute headways during rush hour. I wouldn't be surprised if each region on the map carries around 100,000 commuters or more (at least the Jersey side). I too wonder if these are even counted.

EDIT: According to this article just the two easternmost Brooklyn and Queens routes transport 120,000 commuter a day with about 850 vans. There is no corresponding passenger number for the Jersey routes, but there are whopping 6,500 registered vans there according to wiki.

Interesting note: the routes west of the Hudson river are usually called jitneys, and east of the Hudson are called dollar vans.

Shawn · #20 Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 2:52 AM**

diamondpark, thanks as always for putting these lists together. Question - do your numbers include walkers?