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Old Posted Aug 4, 2020, 7:31 PM
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What's fueling all of this?


Nashville........................is box office.
box office? What?? Theaters?
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box office? What?? Theaters?

It's the star city. People want to come to it. Chefs want to come to it. Stores want to come to it. Developers want to build in it.

A developer said that whenever he talks to other developers, within the first three minutes of the conversation the other developers talk about wanting to develop a property in Nashville.

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Old Posted Aug 14, 2020, 7:56 PM
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An updated rendering was just released for Tony G's 801 Church project, and boy is it a stunner. Updated information can be found at the link provided.

https://www.nashvillepost.com/busine...-church-street



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Old Posted Aug 14, 2020, 8:21 PM
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An updated rendering was just released for Tony G's 801 Church project, and boy is it a stunner. Updated information can be found at the link provided.

https://www.nashvillepost.com/busine...-church-street



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I believe this is a new building as this will be a different address than the other tower at 900 church st, though they both share similar design elements. That's two towers over 30 stories going up on Church St. within a few blocks. Pretty impressive.

801 Church St. Tower:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/busine...-church-street

900 Church St. Tower:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/busine...-church-street
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I believe this is a new building as this will be a different address than the other tower at 900 church st, though they both share similar design elements. That's two towers over 30 stories going up on Church St. within a few blocks. Pretty impressive.

801 Church St. Tower:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/busine...-church-street

900 Church St. Tower:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/busine...-church-street
Oh wow great catch! Thanks for the correction, you're absolutely right!
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The 801 proposal in context with other Church Street developments. On an older card I could not edit (says 'no renderings').

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900 Church Street is already under construction. It's probably safe to assume that Paramount is dead. I like the design of 801. It will compliment 900. However, I wish he would have taken Paramount and shifted it to 801 since it's unlikely that it'll be built in the pocket park. Or, if he would have taken the height of 801 to that of Paramount.

Nashville really needs to break out of the 30 story realm. If developers don't start going into the 40 and 50 story realm, the skyline will get very linear over time. Developers in Austin appear to be shifting to 40, 50 and 60+ story buildings. They have 17 proposals on the table that are over 40 stories. Three of which are under construction already. One of those is 65 stories.
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Totally agree.
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Developers in Austin appear to be shifting to 40, 50 and 60+ story buildings. They have 17 proposals on the table that are over 40 stories. Three of which are under construction already. One of those is 65 stories.
Downtown Austin alone:

Proposed, SP Under Review, Approved and/or U/C from 400'-499' = 5
Proposed, SP Under Review, Approved and/or U/C from 500'-599' = 10
SP Under Review and/or Approved from 600'-699' = 3
Proposed, SP Under Review and/or Approved from 700'-799' = 5
SP Under Review and U/C from 800'-899' = 2

18 others between 300'-399'

And this does not include Karlin Real Estate's ATX Tower proposals (one of which could easily top 1000').

Simply crazy...

Once land values reach a certain point (like in Austin), developers will be forced to build up. It's coming, Nashville...
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If all those proposed buildings are built, the skyline in Austin will begin to rival the downtown skylines in Dallas and Houston.

GoldenBoot, I sure hope you're right. But it seems to me a company like Amazon would have benefited more from building a single tower that was 60 stories than to build two towers that are under 30 each. It would have required less land as well. I can understand that decision in Arlington, VA where they are building their HQ2 towers. There aren't a lot of tall buildings in Arlington. But in downtown Nashville, it just would have made more since to me to build an iconic tower that would set them completely apart from everything else that's being built around them.

Its almost like someone is restricting developers from even thinking about anything above 40. And, look how long it took to get that.
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If all those proposed buildings are built, the skyline in Austin will begin to rival the downtown skylines in Dallas and Houston.

GoldenBoot, I sure hope you're right. But it seems to me a company like Amazon would have benefited more from building a single tower that was 60 stories than to build two towers that are under 30 each. It would have required less land as well. I can understand that decision in Arlington, VA where they are building their HQ2 towers. There aren't a lot of tall buildings in Arlington. But in downtown Nashville, it just would have made more since to me to build an iconic tower that would set them completely apart from everything else that's being built around them.

Its almost like someone is restricting developers from even thinking about anything above 40. And, look how long it took to get that.
Right now, it's more cost effective to have a couple of 30-story towers than to build one 60-story tower. Even though Amazon is worth hundreds of billions, they still watch their bottom line like a hawk. They are not going to spend with recess abandon.
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I'd rather have density than height. And we're beginning to get some now. BTW: I have a soft spot for Austin, where I went to college.

So here's the latest offerings from Tony Giarratana, a local developer who has done the 505 tower, Cumberland, and Sobro, among other large buildings in town. Here is a rendering they released today for their latest towers on Church Street. 801 Church (on the right) and 900 (on the left). Of course, this rendering doesn't show the Amazon towers that sit at the front-left side of this drawing, and the MGM Grand Hotel and Anschutz Entertainment Group (gigaplex theaters and stages) which are underway at the front-right in the picture. Lots of density. https://www.nashvillepost.com/busine...rratana-towers
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I'd rather have density than height. And we're beginning to get some now. BTW: I have a soft spot for Austin, where I went to college.

So here's the latest offerings from Tony Giarratana, a local developer who has done the 505 tower, Cumberland, and Sobro, among other large buildings in town. Here is a rendering they released today for their latest towers on Church Street. 801 Church (on the right) and 900 (on the left). Of course, this rendering doesn't show the Amazon towers that sit at the front-left side of this drawing, and the MGM Grand Hotel and Anschutz Entertainment Group (gigaplex theaters and stages) which are underway at the front-right in the picture. Lots of density.
The rendering;


The 801 is on the right and the 900 is on the left. The 505 is in the distance. The 1001 is not shown.

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If all those proposed buildings are built, the skyline in Austin will begin to rival the downtown skylines in Dallas and Houston.

GoldenBoot, I sure hope you're right. But it seems to me a company like Amazon would have benefited more from building a single tower that was 60 stories than to build two towers that are under 30 each. It would have required less land as well. I can understand that decision in Arlington, VA where they are building their HQ2 towers. There aren't a lot of tall buildings in Arlington. But in downtown Nashville, it just would have made more since to me to build an iconic tower that would set them completely apart from everything else that's being built around them.

Its almost like someone is restricting developers from even thinking about anything above 40. And, look how long it took to get that.
You keep saying the same thing. Nobody is restricting anyone from thinking about anything. These are multi-million and billion dollar developers and companies. This is a free country and they are free to build what they feel they need. These people did not get where they are by spending millions and billions of unnecessary dollars just to cater to some guy's inferiority complex.
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I'd rather have density than height. And we're beginning to get some now. BTW: I have a soft spot for Austin, where I went to college.

So here's the latest offerings from Tony Giarratana, a local developer who has done the 505 tower, Cumberland, and Sobro, among other large buildings in town. Here is a rendering they released today for their latest towers on Church Street. 801 Church (on the right) and 900 (on the left). Of course, this rendering doesn't show the Amazon towers that sit at the front-left side of this drawing, and the MGM Grand Hotel and Anschutz Entertainment Group (gigaplex theaters and stages) which are underway at the front-right in the picture. Lots of density. https://www.nashvillepost.com/busine...rratana-towers
I don't get obsession with height that a scant number of individuals have. It's as if they are trying to compensate for something.
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I don't get obsession with height that a scant number of individuals have. It's as if they are trying to compensate for something.
This is a skyscraper forum, so posters on here tend to care about height more so than the average person.
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The rendering;


The 801 is on the right and the 900 is on the left. The 505 is in the distance. The 1001 is not shown.
What is the 1001?
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You keep saying the same thing. Nobody is restricting anyone from thinking about anything. These are multi-million and billion dollar developers and companies. This is a free country and they are free to build what they feel they need. These people did not get where they are by spending millions and billions of unnecessary dollars just to cater to some guy's inferiority complex.
This is a free country and I have the freedom to express my opinion as do you. I'm not asking anyone on this site to agree with my opinions.

Who has an inferiority complex?
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What is the 1001?
I believe it is a very tall tower at Nashville Yards. I agree so much, with wanting tall towers. Why else do we visit a Skyscraper page? Perhaps one user needs to move to the warehouse page?
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This is a skyscraper forum, so posters on here tend to care about height more so than the average person.
People usually compensate with cars. Building skyscrapers, is not an insecure persons game.
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