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Old Posted Nov 28, 2010, 4:06 AM
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How am I insulting Chicago by stating something true?

If someone from Chicago made the same comment vis-a-vis Cincinatti, Charlotte, or Tampa, the Chicagoan would be correct.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2010, 4:53 AM
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.....you are digging too deep into this.

Yes, we need 2000 ft towers in Manhattan to create more peaks in the skyline. It looks pretty flat as is.

I've never seen it as a competition. Nobody cares about the third world cities putting up 2,000 towers (or 10,000 ft ones for as far as I care), I care about the look of Manhattan's skyline. Period.
Manhattan is flat? Its flat????? Unbelievable.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2010, 4:55 AM
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This thread is about One Madison Avenue RobertWalpole.
Quit insulting Chicagoans and concentrate on the building at hand.
It wasn't an insult. It was a fact.
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Enough.

Any more off topic posts will be deleted. This thread is about the One Madison Avenue proposal.
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Old Posted May 6, 2011, 9:27 AM
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Maybe new action nearby will revitalize this one...

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MAD. AVE. A TALL ORDER
COULD BECOME 900-FOOT TOWER




September 26, 2007

We've learned that Elad Properties, which is redeveloping the Plaza Hotel and residences, has an agreement with SL Green Realty Corp. to use SLG's more than 400,000 feet of air rights to construct a 74-story tower on top of the 1.2 million-foot, 14-story building in which investment bank Credit Suisse both has an interest and its offices.

But don't get Elad's development plans confused with the 41-story adjacent building to its north. Though that tower, which is better known as the landmarked Clock Tower, once had the address 1 Madison Ave., it was renamed 5 Madison Ave. after it was sold to Africa-Israel for $200 million, with plans to develop the site into residential units.

We're sure right now that Africa-Israel's Lev Leviev is steaming that his rival, Yitzhak Tshuva, and Tshuva's local boss, Micki Naftali, will be dwarfing his own scheme.

The two buildings, together known as the Met Life Building, comprise 1.93 acres and take up the entire block bounded by 23rd and 24th streets and Madison and Park Avenue South, but the Clock Tower itself takes up just the corner of Madison and 24th Street.

Israeli press reports said that Elad would spend $450 million to create the new 900-foot-tall building overlooking Madison Square Park.

New development for the clock tower...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/ny...tan-hotel.html
Hilfiger Has Plan to Convert MetLife Clock Tower to Hotel



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Tommy Hilfiger, the designer known for his blue blazers and varsity sweaters, has signed a contract to buy the landmark Metropolitan Life clock tower for $170 million and plans to convert the building into a hotel, according to an executive briefed on the deal.

Mr. Hilfiger, who sold his apparel company 14 months ago to Phillips-Van Heusen for $3 billion, had been scouring the city for a suitable building for almost a year. He had looked at the former headquarters of The New York Times on West 43rd Street before moving south to the clock tower, which overlooks Madison Square Park.

In recent years, a string of developers have sought to convert the MetLife tower, at Madison Avenue and East 24th Street, which was modeled after St. Mark’s Campanile in Venice, to condominiums. Mr. Hilfiger has another idea: a hotel.


“It’s certainly a landmark in a neighborhood that’s become more hotel-friendly in recent years,” John Fox, a hotel industry specialist at PKF Consulting, said. “On the other hand, I’m not sure what a Hilfiger brand hotel is. I assume it’s something with a preppy look to the design.”

Mr. Fox said the hotel market was digesting the addition of 5,000 hotel rooms last year, and hotel room rates are rising.

The deal was reported Thursday on the Web site of The Wall Street Journal. It is not expected to close for at least 60 days, said the executive briefed on the deal, who had no authorization to discuss the matter and was granted anonymity, and the agreement could still fall apart.

Mr. Hilfiger would not be the first clothier to turn to hotels. Giorgio Armani has his name on, and is said to be designing, a chain of luxury hotels, starting with the Armani Hotel Dubai, in the United Arab Emirates.

The MetLife clock tower, which is 50 stories tall and capped by a gilded cupola, was the world’s tallest building for a few years after its completion in 1909.

It has changed hands several times in recent years. SL Green bought the property from MetLife in 2005 for $150 million.

The following year, Ian Schrager and RFR Holdings bought a 70 percent stake in the building, with plans to create luxurious apartments.

In May 2007, the Israeli businessman Lev Leviev of Africa Israel USA bought the tower and additional development rights, saying he would spend $110 million on a condominium conversion.

But the recession dealt a heavy blow to Mr. Leviev’s highly leveraged company. Africa Israel had also bought the former Times Building, and last week it sold 11 floors in that building to the Blackstone Group, the private equity company, for $160 million.

“A hotel play is much safer than if he was planning a condo conversion,” Ben Thypin, director of market analysis for Real Capital Analytics, said of Mr. Hilfiger. “There’s a lot of development action around Madison Square.”
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Old Posted May 6, 2011, 2:05 PM
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This is probably my favorite proposal in the city, outside of Tower Verre, it is so futuristic looking, and Madison Square already has a really incredible blend of architecture and this would only add to it. Hopefully the strong sales at the Met Life Tower will encourage investment in this thing because I really think its a beauty.
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im am more then glad to see this one resurrect from the dead though i have to say im not happy with the clock tower becoming a hotel'it almost feels like if the ESB or Chrysler were to become a hotel.
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i know this might be a stupid question but is the tower itself,meaning without the base it stands on 937' or is the with the clock towers base?
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I wonder why no one has ever just considered completing the Metropolitan Life North Building which can support 110 floors. There is just so much more room, and options you can take using that base of only 30 floors. Do anything you want with those 80 floors above it.
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These are just plans. Proposals are just: plans. They can mean the entire world, but if they don't get any clear approval they don't happen. So I guess I wouldn't bother with wondering about the hotel plans. It is what it is.
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I wonder why no one has ever just considered completing the Metropolitan Life North Building which can support 110 floors. There is just so much more room, and options you can take using that base of only 30 floors. Do anything you want with those 80 floors above it.
I've often wondered this myself. It seems the perfect place.
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Are we still at a wait and see stage? Are there new DOB docs that could clarify 1 Mad's status here?
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Well, thats fine, your entitled to your opinion & you don't have to agree with mine. Your right, I'm a much bigger fan of classical art & architecture than modern art. This might be more popular view in architecture than you think.
Many of the people that run the companies that put up the huge glass boxes we've been accustomed to live in neo-classical homes. All you have to do is flip through architectural digests to see that new classical architecture is alive and well: just reserved for the mega-rich.
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I've heard that this tower will be built.
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This tower is not being lowered.
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I heard this from a source in the construction industry,
According to RobertWalpole this one is comeing back.

Reposting some pics from the front page to freshen everyone's memories.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2012, 2:05 PM
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With Elad behind this I'm sure they'll build something here. I'd love for them to keep that design but who knows at this point.

Edit: In an article from 2008 Elad Properties said that the images of this tower that we're all familiar with, "were made at least a year ago" so in 2007 "for publication purposes, and no longer reflect the current state of the project." Don't know what to make of that because it's 4 years old but something to keep in mind.

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This side of the Manhattan is starting to get their fair share of tall buildings.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2012, 6:58 PM
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http://daniel-libeskind.com/projects/new-york-tower

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The New York Tower project is a proposal for a residential tower at One Madison Avenue, overlooking Madison Square Park in Manhattan. The design features a series of spiraling gardens extending the green of Madison Square along the facade of the tower. The tower is set back from its neighbors — maintaining views and maximizing light and air.

The New York Tower will become a major addition to the skyline of Manhattan, standing amongst the historic Met Life Tower and the Empire State Building.The building is in its early stages and will reach a more definitive deadline when the proposal enters the public review process. Studio Daniel Libeskind is working with Elad Properties on this project.

Same slides...http://daniel-libeskind.com/projects...k-tower/images
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hope it's true

I love this tower, NYC is insane!



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Along with 80 South St., this was one of the proposals that I was sad to see canceled. Very happy it's coming back to life, and I've got my fingers crossed.
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As much as I miss RW around these parts, I'm not sure I believe this rumor he's started. It would be incredible if it actually happened.
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