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Old Posted Sep 15, 2019, 11:50 PM
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Its a shame they couldn't be a little more competitive for folks like Amazon or even Google or Apple.

Apple is currently searching for a ton of space, something like 750,000 sq-ft, enough in theory to kick start 2 WTC. But everyone seems to be looking at Hudson Yards or its proxies.

Or they could just build it on spec, and hope they can get enough smaller commitments so when it opens, its financially stable.
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Rival developers face off for rights to build at 5 World Trade Center

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Two major development groups are battling it out over the last available site at the World Trade Center, according to sources involved in the bidding for the parcel.

Whereas Silverstein Properties and Brookfield submitted a project that favors residential development on the site, L&L MAG pitched building an exclusively-commercial and community-oriented tower designed by the architecture firm Studio Gang.


L&L MAG’s plan envisions a spire with high-end office space that would seek to look and feel distinct from the millions of square feet of competing office space at the World Trade Center site and feature a substantial component of community space in the base of the spire, which could be used for a prominent academic or medical use.

The Silverstein and Brookfield project would include only a small portion of commercial space. Its large residential component, which could amount to 1.1 million square feet under the guidelines set for the bid by the Port Authority, would be required to allot 25% to 30% of the apartment space for affordable housing.


The Port Authority has not specified when it will choose a winner for the property. The developers could bid to either lease or buy the site outright.”
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Is there a requirement that WTC 5 be shorter than WTC 4 in keeping with the original stepped plan? If so, maybe 875'...
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This could yield something significant, but part of the plan to not include residential from my understanding is to avoid environmental impact studies and getting the public involved. The zoning is capped at 900 ft, so any change would have to go through the rezoning process.

The parcel itself is quite big, so it'll most likely be bulky in nature to fit all of that square footage. This is for commercial and mixed used elements along with resi regarding the height cap. Also square footage caps depending on the configuration of functionalities.
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Fucking affordable housing requirements...
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Fucking affordable housing requirements...
Fucking attitude by some rich people that everything like this has to be geared to wealthy people... studies show mixed income developments and neighborhoods are better for those making less than only having affordable housing set up in less affluent neighborhoods. Why should you care some regular people will get to live in a better neighborhood, maybe actually get to know better off people and vice versa? They might even form...horrors... a community!
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2019, 6:28 PM
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I’m not rich though.

Affordable housing requirements do nothing to really alleviate availability or high market rates. It’s a tool used by scumbag politicians to make credulous advocates and residents feel like something good is being done.

That, and people don’t deserve nice things. They ought to earn them like the rest of us have to. I’m sure you can appreciate the resentment that might cause.
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I’m not rich though.

Affordable housing requirements do nothing to really alleviate availability or high market rates. It’s a tool used by scumbag politicians to make credulous advocates and residents feel like something good is being done.

That, and people don’t deserve nice things. They ought to earn them like the rest of us have to. I’m sure you can appreciate the resentment that might cause.
This is that obnoxious boomer mentality that we all know and love... "people don't deserve nice things" aka people don't deserve to have fucking housing... yikes
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This is that obnoxious boomer mentality that we all know and love... "people don't deserve nice things" aka people don't deserve to have fucking housing... yikes
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I’m sure you can appreciate the resentment that might cause.
The lack of self awareness here makes me wonder if this was a poor attempt at sarcasm.

"You fail to see how this makes me resent other people."

Umm maybe you can start with trying not get triggered by the idea that helping other people does not hurt you in only the slightest of ways and may even be helpful? There are 114,000 homeless children - about 10% - attending NYC public schools. Imagine the anvil around their lives and the generations before them. A fancy food hall is nice and all, but it sure would be nice if there were places for people to live, too, and not have to take 3 transfers each way and a bus to get a decent job.
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Why should you care some regular people will get to live in a better neighborhood, maybe actually get to know better off people and vice versa? They might even form...horrors... a community!
Because taxpayers are massively subsidizing such an arrangement. I'm basically paying for some lucky schlub (with a decent income, enough to easily afford a nice market rate apartment) to live in taxpayer-subsidized luxury building till death.

Seems to be an incredibly inefficient system, even if you support housing subsidies, because you're getting the least bang for the buck and producing the least amount of affordable housing by concentration such subsidies in the highest cost neighborhoods. Why can't the residents live in regular neighborhoods like everyone else, or, alternatively, why can't the taxpayers get the maximum return by concentrating subsidized housing in low-cost areas?
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Brookfield and Silverstein Join Forces to Pitch WTC Residential Tower





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Posted Nov. 26, 2019

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If Silverstein Properties and Brookfield Properties have their way, the two office building giants will be joining forces to develop the last tower at the World Trade Center. And it will be residential.

The developers, whose towering Downtown domains are separated by West Street—one at the World Trade Center the other Brookfield Place— jointly responded to a request for proposals to build on a 33,000-square-foot piece of prime Lower Manhattan property, known as Site 5, just south of Liberty Park. According to people familiar with the joint bid, the 900-foot-high building would have about 1 million square feet of apartments above a 245,000-square-foot, five- or six-story pediment of mixed uses, yet to be determined but expected to include a community benefit such as a school, library or community center. Thirty percent of the units would be offered at below market rate.
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With Silverstein’s 2 World Trade Center yet to be developed, it made little sense to propose a competing office building, said a person familiar with the developer’s rationale for pitching a residential use.

Brookfield Properties and Silverstein Properties declined to comment.

Another bidder is L&L Mag, which had planned to pitch an “exclusively-commercial and community oriented tower designed by the architecture firm Studio Gang,” according to Crain’s New York Business. That plan calls for a spire “that would seek to look and feel distinct” from the other World Trade Center towers, Crain’s reported. An L&L Mag spokeswoman declined to comment.

The Port Authority and Lower Manhattan Development Corp., the two state agencies in charge of the site, are not divulging the bidders’ identities. The proposals, received in September, could pitch plans for either a residential or commercial building. Back in 2003, the master plan for the rebuilt World Trade Center site called for a commercial building of up to 900 feet. But with the changing market, the agencies chose to also accept proposals for a mixed use building with as much as 1.1 million square feet of apartments, 20 to 30 percent of them required to be below market rate.

“We’re testing the market, which is why we didn’t put more restrictions and parameters [in the request for proposals],” Holly Leicht, the LMDC board chair, told a Community Board 1 committee in August.

A commercial building of up to 1.3 million square feet could be built without public review, as could a hotel with as many as 800 rooms and 150,000 square feet of convention space. A residential building would require months of public review, and would also be looked at by a newly formed Community Advisory Committee of elected officials, a CB1 representative, and LMDC and Port Authority officials.

Five World Trade Center is the site of the former Deutsche Bank building, damaged on 9/11. The LMDC bought the property and is turning over development revenue to the Port Authority in a swap that allowed the September 11 Memorial & Museum and performing arts center to be built on land that the Authority had controlled.

A spokeswoman for the Port Authority said there is no set timeline for when a selected developer will be announced.
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Larry sucks, he's a guy who puts up awful towers. Please not him.
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It makes sense for this to be a primarily residential tower: With office space available in Hudson Yards and the other WTC, it doesn't make much sense to build yet another office tower.
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It makes sense for this to be a primarily residential tower: With office space available in Hudson Yards and the other WTC, it doesn't make much sense to build yet another office tower.
I don't blame people for not wanting to work in that place.

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Construction to resume for Greek Orthodox church destroyed in 9/11 attacks






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July 31, 2020


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It’s a resurrection nearly 20 years in the making.

Construction will resume Monday on the new St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church in Lower Manhattan, filling a gaping hole left when the original house of worship was destroyed in the 9/11 terror attacks.

These mock-ups, exclusively obtained by The Post, show off the majesty of a site that will stand as tribute to the resolve of not just the church’s flock, but all New Yorkers.

“Monday’s going to be a very emotional day. A powerful day,” said Michael Psaros, vice chairman of The Friends of St. Nicholas, which formed in January to get the project back on the right track after years of scandal and mismanagement.

“Another powerful symbol to the world of the resurrection of all of Ground Zero and New York City.”
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Construction was set to resume in the spring — “then COVID hit,” said Psaros, grounding all non-essential projects statewide to a halt for months.

It will begin once again on Monday when a crane lowers the first skylight into the church’s dome, in a ceremony presided over by Cuomo and Archbishop Elpidophoros, the leader of the Greek Orthodox Church in America.“St. Nicholas … will be, for the Greek-American community, our Parthenon and our St. Sophia in America,” said Psaros. “It will be a powerful symbol of the triumph of the principals of the American ideal, with respect to individual and religious freedom.”


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