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Originally Posted by Dac150
I suppose I'm curious now as to what your ideal alternative would be to this proposal?
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It would be nice to see something that creates a gradient from the small scale fine grain existing urban fabric into higher/larger/denser structures along the water. Also to have architecture that relates to the identity of Greenpoint and acknowledges the shoreline's past as a gritty industrial area. The renderings create a white washed, anywhere USA vibe, that somehow these buildings should disassociate themselves from Greenpoint and to a greater extent, NYC.
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Originally Posted by babybackribs2314
Much of Greenpoint is a brownfield site, and you have to take that into consideration before slamming this development, I think... you're not going to get starchitecture on a plot next to contaminated land (I'm fairly sure the Lumberyard site isn't actually part of the brownfield, but it's most definitely adjacent).
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You are taking my criticism the wrong way. By no means would I ever imagine "starchitecture" being a solution for this project... or even desirable. In fact I would like to see a reversion towards more rectilinear, tiered designs utilizing materials that age and have a direct connection to industrial Brooklyn. Work akin to that of Roman Williams or Williams Tsien is what I would be looking for.
And considering the crap that is unearthed ANYWHERE in NYC, every site is a contaminated brownfield site. the contamination just varies (and yes I am very aware of the Greenpoint superfund site... but that obviously isn't stopping this development team from wanting to pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into the area)
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Originally Posted by NYguy
There is way too much we don't know about this development, which is more than just highrises. If you say the highrises will destroy the "character" of the neighborhood as you see it, that may very well be true. However, knowing the City the way I do, where things can be different on a block by block basis, I don't see that this waterfront development would change the local to the point where the streets won't be recognizable. Brooklyn as a whole is already highly desirable, and as such there will always be the possibility of new development bringing in new people. Such is life in an ever growing, changing, and evolving city.
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I have no problem with high rises for the site, just the placeholder architectural style which seems to ignore its context... not just that of the waterfront, or Greenpoint, or even Brooklyn... but NYC on the whole.