Show us your local rail transit systems - Page 5

BTinSF · #81 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 3:59 AM**

San Francisco has:

1. Cable cars (yeah, they run on rails):

Source: http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?47156

Source: http://www.sfcablecar.com/routes.html

2. Muni historic streetcars

Source: http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?46861

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_Market_&_Wharves

3. Muni Metro (light rail--part subway, part surface on separate right of way, part using city streets)

Source: http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?68781

Source: http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?71903

Source: http://sanfrancisco.about.com/od/nei...s/Muni-Map.htm

3. BART (heavy rail, wide guage, grade separated--subway and/or elevated)

Source: http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?25774

Source: http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?50866

Source: http://www.bart.gov/images/global/system-map-xlrg.gif

4. CalTrain (heavy rail, standard guage--commuter service)

Source: http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?46547

Source: http://www.caltrain.com/caltrain_map.html

5. SMART (heavy standard guage rail under development from Larkspur in Marin County to Cloverdale in Sonoma County, connecting to San Francisco by ferry from Larkspur

6. AMTRAK (station in Emeryville just across Bay Bridge with bus connection run by AMTRAK to downtown--or you can cross-platform to BART at the Coliseum Station in the East Bay)--Direct service to Sacramento (via both long distance services and regional "Capital Corridor" trains which run much more frequently), Portland, Seattle, LA, Salt Lake City, Denver and Chicago.

FREKI · #82 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 4:34 AM**

Copenhagen

Metro

S-Train

Regional

Local Lines

J. Will · #83 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 6:49 AM**

Toronto.

1) subway

1.25 million riders per weekday on 4 lines. (http://www3.ttc.ca/PDF/Transit_Plann..._2007-2008.pdf)

The SRT line uses trains like this:

The other three lines use trains like this....

but will soon be replaced with trains like this

2) streetcars

Second largest tram network in the world - 11 lines.

Streetcars currently look like this...

Will soon look like this...

3) commuter rail

GO Transit carries 160,000 people per day on 7 lines.

4) long-distance rail

VIA, Amtrak, Ontario Northland

5) transit city lrt (future), plus possible lrt lines in york region and mississauga

jtk1519 · #84 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 7:34 AM**

Dallas is currently served by the Trinity Railway Express commuter line, two light rail lines (soon to be four) and a small streetcar in the Uptown area...

Dallas Union Station which services as the Eastern terminus for the TRE and provides platforms for both light rail lines and Amtrak...

http://www.trainweb.org/texasandpaci...ctures_dl.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Station_(Dallas)

TRE

http://www.trinityrailwayexpress.org/map.html

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=258854

http://whiskeytexas.blogspot.com/200...1_archive.html

DART light rail

http://www.dart.org/about/expansion/expansionmaps.asp

pic by me

wikipedia

McKinney Avenue Trolley

http://www.mata.org/map.shtml

wikipedia

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractio...las_Texas.html

http://www.railwaypreservation.com/v...ley/dallas.htm

Lear · #85 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 7:55 AM**

Berlin, Germany

One of the most extensive and most diverse urban rail systems in Europe and the world.

Tram / Light Rail - Net length 192 km , 22 lines. Operates predominantly in eastern boroughs.

http://www.juber.de/wss/?p=2491

U-Bahn / Underground - Net Length 145 km, 9 Lines. Mostly central & western boroughs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U-...richsfelde.JPG

S-Bahn / Urban rail - Net length 331 km, 15 lines. Overground inner city service.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Berlin_S-Bahn

S-bahn & U-Bahn map

http://www.exberliner.net/cityguide/index.php?s=berlin

Regionalbahn / Regional rail system Net length around 2000 km, 40 lines. Serves Berlin-Brandenburg metropolitan region. The image is showing the upper level of Berlin Hbf / Central station.

http://www.reisekultouren.de/reisese...sche-bahn.html

Regional services map

http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...20051022000635

ICE / High speed rail National rail system, around 2500 km, connecting around 180 cities in Germany and neighbour countries, speed average 160-300 km/h.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/15434282@N00/2886939716/

Berlin - Central station

Justin10000 · #86 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 3:02 PM**

Buffalo is home to a single 10km Light Rail Line, Metrorail.

People seem to have a problem classifying Metro Rail as Light rail, or a subway due to the extensive underground section with high-level boarding, and a short surface section where rider use steps to enter the vehicle. I classify the system as Light Rail, and Metro Rail is a great example of the versatilty, and adaptability of Light Rail. The vehicles are single body, which is a rarity for a modern North American LRV. (Toronto's CLRV are the only other example, I believe).

ALL PHOTOS COURTESY OF NYCSUBWAY.ORG

Surface portion of the system:

Underground station:

A site that looks at the Metro Rail tunnels:

http://subway.buffalonet.org/

vid · #87 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 3:24 PM**

I drew that building!

No passenger rail where I live, just freight, but the system is very extensive. There is a rail line that runs through the city that will make a wonderful LRT some day.

FREKI · #88 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 4:35 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid

http://i42.tinypic.com/ndytl.jpg

I drew that building!

Cool

If interested it's currently getting another part added to it ( sadly not with a tower )

I haven't been out there in a while, but here's a pic from a fellow N&B'er from SSC if interested

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...cture037-1.jpg

vid · #89 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 4:48 PM**

They're ruining it's sleekness.

It's the tower we're interested in so unless they add another I think the diagram can remain.

FREKI · #90 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 4:57 PM**

^well it's only on it's northern side so the tower itself will be untouched and sleek from most angles

http://www.moe.dk/Ydelser/Brandraadg...=304&bc=ffffff

tdawg · #91 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 5:52 PM**

NYC metro, beginning with the subway:

Metro North commuter rail:

Long Island Rail Road:

NJ Transit (includes PATCO):

Hudson-Bergen Light Rail (New Jersey):

Staten Island Rail Road:

And just for fun, the JFK Airtrain which connects to the subway at two stations:

theWatusi · #92 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 6:26 PM**

Philadelphia has 12 regional rail lines (R1,R2,R3,R5,R6,R7,R8-all but the R1 are double ended), 1 high speed lines (100), 3 trolleys (101,102,15) 3 subways (Broad Street, Market-Frankford, PATCO), and 5 subway-surface lines (10,11,13,34,36)

Amtrak service from 30th Street Station to destinations along the NEC and Harrisburg Line

Honorable mention to NJ Transit with service to Atlantic City of out 30th St Station.

Regional Rail, High Speed Lines, Trolleys (except 15), and Subways

Subway-Surface Lines

The regional rail currently uses 4 different vehicle types, all powered by overhead electrical catenary.

(all pictures from www.railpictures.net and www.philadelphiatransitvehicles.info)

MU Equipment:

Silverliner II

Silverliner III

Silverliner IV

Push-Pull Equipment:

AEM7 with Bombardier coaches and cab car on the trailing end.

High Speed Line:

Route 100 uses N5 cars

Trolley Lines:

Routes 101 and 102 use Kawasaki cars:

Route 15 uses classic PCC II cars

Subways:

The Broad Street Line uses Kawasaki cars:

The Market Frankford Line uses M4s

The Patco Line uses Budd cars

Subway Surface Lines

The S-S lines uses Kawasaki cars:

New Jersey Transit Atlantic City Line

arkhitektor · #93 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 9:43 PM**

Wasatch Front, Utah (Salt Lake City area):

UTA currently operates 2 light rail lines, and 1 commuter rail line:

(lines shown in gray are under construction)

There are three additional light rail lines and a new commuter rail line under construction and everything is slated for completion by 2015:

FrontRunner Commuter Rail:

TRAX Light Rail:

Parkway · #94 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 10:12 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by theWatusi

Push-Pull Equipment:

AEM7 with Bombardier coaches and cab car on the trailing end.

I don't want to be nit-picky but this locomotive is an ALP-44 which SEPTA has one of as payment from Ad-Tranz for the late delivery of the N-5 cars, I belive that they have 6 AEM-7s and then this for 7 locomotive hauled trains.

sorry its the OCD rail fan in me

ukw · #95 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 11:20 PM**

All very interesting pictures...

Can someone explain why very few rail lines in the US are powered via an overhead wire/catenary? It seems like the majority are just plain tracks and that's it. Only the NEC (Northeastern Corridor) seems to be fully powered in this country. Even looking at the Toronto pictures, the long-distance VIA train seems to not be powered overhead.

One more thing. The horizontal planks that run perpendicular to the rail, are made out of wood in the US. In contrast, in Europe and Russia they're made out of concrete or steel, providing more robustness/reliability. Just wondering why America goes with wood.

theWatusi · #96 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 11:26 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parkway

sorry its the OCD rail fan in me

No prob, thanks for the correction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukw

All very interesting pictures...

Can someone explain why very few rail lines in the US are powered via an overhead wire/catenary? It seems like the majority are just plain tracks and that's it. Only the NEC (Northeastern Corridor) seems to be fully powered in this country.

Catenary is extremely expensive to install. Most of the catenary along the NEC and the Philly commuter lines was installed in the 30's as part of great depression stimulus funds.

Quote:

One more thing. The horizontal planks that run perpendicular to the rail, are made out of wood in the US. In contrast, in Europe and Russia they're made out of concrete or steel, providing more robustness/reliability. Just wondering why America goes with wood.

There call ties. Concrete does last longer, but again is more expensive. Amtrak has installed concrete ties along the NEC.

ukw · #97 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 11:29 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by theWatusi

Catenary is extremely expensive to install. Most of the catenary along the NEC and the Philly commuter lines was installed in the 30's as part of great depression stimulus funds.

So I'm just wondering, if it's so expensive to install, why do Europeans have them all over the place? Did the Europeans also install them in the 30s? If not, then why can't we do what they did recently, are we less rich?

Gordo · #98 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 11:32 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukw

So I'm just wondering, if it's so expensive to install, why do Europeans have them all over the place? Did the Europeans also install them in the 30s? If not, then why can't we do what they did recently, are we less rich?

It's mostly just a funding and use difference. Most railroad tracks in Europe are used primarily for passengers and owned/maintained by governments. In the US, most tracks are owned by private companies (including most that are used by commuter railroads and Amtrak) and used primarily for freight. Freight trains don't need tracks maintained at the same level, because they typically run much, much slower. The gain in speed that would happen from installing concrete ties is not worth the cost (for the freight railroads). Some areas where tracks are used mostly for passengers and/or owned by government entities have been upgrading to concrete ties (NEC, lots of places in California, etc).

theWatusi · #99 Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 11:33 PM**

I don't know when the Europeans started using them.

Concrete ties are more expensive upfront, but last longer. Wooden ones are cheaper upfront, but need to be replaced more often. I suppose the railroads run cost/benefit analysis to determine which is better. Some freight railroads have installed them on the heavily used mainlines as well.

alexjon · #**100** Posted **Jul 1, 2009, 11:47 PM**

Hm, Seattle has Sounder, Link, the SLUT and the Seattle Center Monorail.

And Amtrak to California and Chicago.