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[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Good sleuthing Hoss, you found the Glenway Market.

I wonder if there's anything left inside (well, besides rats ). That gsv makes me want to sneak inside.

*It looks like there's an ornamental cartouche between the two upper-story windows on the right.
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I know what's inside, at least on the southern end of the building. There is someone who restores old cars and possibly neon signs. There is a garage-type roll up door which opens onto the side street, Branden, just off the corner and most of the time, when I am driving home I see inside. Not sure if he is using all the old market space or just the warehouse part inside that door, but it seems pretty big inside.

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

CityBoyDoug's north-west view shows an interesting building across the street.


gsv



Have we 'visited' this building on NLA?


gsv




There appears to be writing (or is it numbers?) in the ornamental medallion above the center balcony.


detail / gsv

It looks like a '68', but that can't be right.

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I drive by there every day. The medallion says "BABB" The building next door to the left is also an interesting one. The assessor's office says "Babb" was built in 1929. It is 1807 Glendale Blvd.

[HossC]

Thanks to e_r's picture in post #300, I know that this Julius Shulman subject is the Ralphs at 3rd and Vermont. It's "Job 242: Stiles Oliver Clements, Ralphs Market (Los Angeles, Calif.),1948". I think we're looking through to Bullocks on Wilshire on the right of the first shot.
NB. I've left out three exterior views which only showed slightly different angles.





In case there was any doubt about the location, there's a sign for Bimini Baths visible through the window.



I've included all the interior images so that we can compare them to our 21st century shopping experiences.











All from Getty Research Institute

Although there's still a Ralphs at 3rd and Vermont, the building seen in the Shulman pictures was replaced sometime between 1972 and 1980 (looking at Historic Aerials).


GSV

[CityBoyDoug]

[QUOTE=HossC;7388909]Thanks to e_r's picture in post #300, I know that this Julius Shulman subject is the Ralphs at 3rd and Vermont. It's "Job 242: Stiles Oliver Clements, Ralphs Market (Los Angeles, Calif.),1948". I think we're looking through to Bullocks on Wilshire on the right of the first shot.
NB. I've left out three exterior views which only showed slightly different angles.

QUOTE]

The changes made in the Super Market style and experience since 1948 and 2016 are significant and numerous. That old checkout stand is really primitive in comparison.

[Earl Boebert]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

The changes made in the Super Market style and experience since 1948 and 2016 are significant and numerous. That old checkout stand is really primitive in comparison.

My family moved from Elko, NV to Albany, CA in 1949, when I was 9. I was amazed at the scope of the supermarkets (Safeway, where we were) but disappointed that there were no slot machines by the door as I was used to in Elko. The things fascinated me.

Cheers,

Earl

[Hollywood Graham]

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;7389027]

Originally Posted by HossC

Thanks to e_r's picture in post #300, I know that this Julius Shulman subject is the Ralphs at 3rd and Vermont. It's "Job 242: Stiles Oliver Clements, Ralphs Market (Los Angeles, Calif.),1948". I think we're looking through to Bullocks on Wilshire on the right of the first shot.
NB. I've left out three exterior views which only showed slightly different angles.

QUOTE]

The changes made in the Super Market style and experience since 1948 and 2016 are significant and numerous. That old checkout stand is really primitive in comparison.

In the early 50's my parents always shopped locally at the Elite at Sunset and Silverlake or at the King Cole at Sunset and Coronado. On occasion they would venture over to that big Ralph's Super Market on Vermont, which was the only one around by the way in those days. It was an amazing difference to go to that big store over our small local markets. I was always anxious to go there with them.

[Moses H. Sherman]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

CityBoyDoug's north-west view shows an interesting building across the street.


gsv



Have we 'visited' this building on NLA?


gsv




There appears to be writing (or is it numbers?) in the ornamental medallion above the center balcony.


detail / gsv

It looks like a '68', but that can't be right.

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Originally Posted by oldstuff

I drive by there every day. The medallion says "BABB" The building next door to the left is also an interesting one. The assessor's office says "Babb" was built in 1929. It is 1807 Glendale Blvd.

This building would have been right in the middle of the early movie studios that lined Allesandro Blvd. (today Glendale Blvd.) in what was then known as Edendale. According to the wiki page on Edendale, 1807 Allesandro (ie. Glendale) Blvd was the Pathé West Coast Film Company:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edendale,_Los_Angeles

[re:LAX]

The light fixtures at the top of the facade aren't on, so the illumination isn't as dramatic as you might hope. And the parking podium really stands out with its lighter color.

The building is in an odd position against the back of the 32-story 5900 Wilshire and at the outside corner of the strange L in Genesee. Genesee used to connect directly to Wilshire, as you can see here. (After Orange Grove is Ogden, then Genesee.) 724 S. Genesee is near the top center of the photo, next to the vacant lot. The current street configuration must have been implemented around 1970 to accommodate 5900 Wilshire.

[Noircitydame]

Originally Posted by HossC

Thanks to e_r's picture in post #300, I know that this Julius Shulman subject is the Ralphs at 3rd and Vermont. It's "Job 242: Stiles Oliver Clements, Ralphs Market (Los Angeles, Calif.),1948". I think we're looking through to Bullocks on Wilshire on the right of the first shot.
NB. I've left out three exterior views which only showed slightly different angles.

A top five favorite in this series for me.

Opened June 3-5, 1948, the largest of the 32 Ralphs stores at the time. Writing of the store on June 3rd and June 6th, an LA Times reporter said: "It is characterized by an unusual amount of window area, with glass on three sides. The combination of plate glass, glass brick, fluorescent lighting and scientific color scheme results in an unusually light and airy interior."

The scientific color scheme: The wall above the windows was painted a delicate pastel green. The north wall was blue green, the south wall beige, and the ceiling chartreuse. No pillars to get in the way.


lat 6-3-48. Lists addresses of all the other Ralphs locations too.

[HossC]

Thanks for all the memories of Ralphs.


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If, like me, you're not familiar with the Steeves House, the architect behind the building in today's Julius Shulman photoset may surprise you. All of those straight lines, and generally not looking like it melted when someone left too close to the fire, it's a long way from Frank Gehry's more recent designs. This is "Job 2915: Frank O. Gehry, Steeves House (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1960".

From a 1989 article in the LA Times:

Perched on the edge of a bluff overlooking the Sepulveda Pass, the Steeves family home was the first major independent commission in which Gehry was free to strut his stuff.

...

The Steeves house is crisp, clear and free of any hint of quirks. Its spaces, indoors and out, are airy and uncomplicated. The details of the sliding doors, wooden fascias and stucco panels are clean, well-finished and unfussy.

And now, the interior ...



I assume that the road in the valley is Sepulveda Boulevard before the 405 was extended through the hills.











All from Getty Research Institute

Here's how the house looks today. The extension is also explained in the LAT article above:

In 1981, the house's new owners, Robert and Joanne Smith, asked Gehry to add a new wing.

Gehry's addition, designed in his radical post-transformation manner as a cluster of mini-pavilions clad in sheet metal, raw plywood and chain link, was rejected by his clients and by the Bel-Air Fine Arts Commission.

After seeing Gehry's own house in Santa Monica (transformed from a pink 1920 bungalow in 1978), I don't blame the Smiths for their decision.


Bing Maps

You'd never guess that such an architecturally important house lies behind these gates at 1313 Casiano Road.


GSV

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by HossC

If, like me, you're not familiar with the Steeves House, the architect behind the building in today's Julius Shulman photoset may surprise you. All of those straight lines, and generally not looking like it melted when someone left too close to the fire, it's a long way from Frank Gehry's more recent designs. This is "Job 2915: Frank O. Gehry, Steeves House (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1960".

From a 1989 article in the LA Times:

Perched on the edge of a bluff overlooking the Sepulveda Pass, the Steeves family home was the first major independent commission in which Gehry was free to strut his stuff.

...

The Steeves house is crisp, clear and free of any hint of quirks. Its spaces, indoors and out, are airy and uncomplicated. The details of the sliding doors, wooden fascias and stucco panels are clean, well-finished and unfussy.

And now, the interior ...



I assume that the road in the valley is Sepulveda Boulevard before the 405 was extended through the hills.











All from Getty Research Institute

Here's how the house looks today. The extension is also explained in the LAT article above:

In 1981, the house's new owners, Robert and Joanne Smith, asked Gehry to add a new wing.

Gehry's addition, designed in his radical post-transformation manner as a cluster of mini-pavilions clad in sheet metal, raw plywood and chain link, was rejected by his clients and by the Bel-Air Fine Arts Commission.

After seeing Gehry's own house in Santa Monica (transformed from a pink 1920 bungalow in 1978), I don't blame the Smiths for their decision.

Frank Gehry? Yes, I am very surprised. He must have been simultaneously channeling Frank Lloyd Wright and Richard Neutra.

Of course this is before Mr. Gehry decided to slip over to the dark side.

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks for the night-shot of 724 S. Genesee re:LAX. I appreciate you taking the time & doing that for us.

Originally Posted by re:LAX

The building is in an odd position against the back of the 32-story 5900 Wilshire. Genesee used to connect directly to Wilshire, as you can see.

Using the link you provided, I've enlarged this aerial.



http://miraclemilela.com/the-miracle...p-carousel-820

So many interesting things to look at.

* side note: we've probably seen this aerial before (on NLA), but not how it pertains to 724 S. Genesee.



...jut for fun, here's 724 S. Genesee in relation to it's 32 story next door neighbor.


google_earth

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[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by re:LAX

The light fixtures at the top of the facade aren't on, so the illumination isn't as dramatic as you might hope. And the parking podium really stands out with its lighter color.

The building is in an odd position against the back of the 32-story 5900 Wilshire and at the outside corner of the strange L in Genesee. Genesee used to connect directly to Wilshire, as you can see here. (After Orange Grove is Ogden, then Genesee.) 724 S. Genesee is near the top center of the photo, next to the vacant lot. The current street configuration must have been implemented around 1970 to accommodate 5900 Wilshire.

Thanks very much for the night shot, re:LAX. It is apparent the striped paint job differs from the earlier moderne monotone. It isn't really an improvement, I don't think. Thanks again.

[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by HossC;7390246

If, like me, you're not familiar with the Steeves House, the architect behind the building in today's Julius Shulman photoset may surprise you. All of those straight lines, and generally not looking like it melted when someone left too close to the fire, it's a long way from Frank Gehry's more recent designs. This is [I

"Job 2915: Frank O. Gehry, Steeves House (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1960"[/I].

There's no accounting for taste.

[HossC]

I'm not against modern architecture. I've just seen that Iraqi-British architect Dame Zaha Hadid died earlier today at the age of 65, and I like her style. I don't think any of her work can be seen in LA, but she designed buildings in Michigan, Ohio and New York in the US, and many other places around the world. Some use straight lines and angles, while others use sweeping curves. I'm just not a huge fan of Frank Gehry's designs.

[ethereal_reality]

I was quite shocked to see that Zaha Hadid had died.

Originally Posted by HenryHuntington

We're looking northwest across E. 7th St., the building on the hill is the Los Angeles Orphan Asylum.
The "shoo-fly" was built for construction of the Santa Ana Freeway.

old file

I think you're correct in saying the building is the Boyle Heights Orphanage HH.
I've been searching for additional images of this 7th St./Santa Ana Frwy Shoo-fly, but I haven't had any luck.


But I did come across this shoo-fly that was initially posted on NLA back in 2012 by unihikid.


Robert T. McVay photograph http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11295

"A shoo-fly under construction on Sunset Boulevard in preparation for a bridge to be built to enable the 101 Freeway to connect with the Pasadena Freeway."

Even with the description I'm having trouble figuring out the exact location of this pic. (which gas-o-meter tank is that?)

I know the three tanks along the Los Angeles River, but this is only one tank.....and the nearest solitary tank was in east Hollywood. -right?



https://www.pinterest.com/pin/304626362266681497/

[ethereal_reality]

'mystery' building.



Does anyone recognize this rather run-down 'norish' looking building?


bing images (now I can't find it again, sorry)

It was accompanied with this description: "A very interesting multi-level building in Echo Park, near the lake."

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[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

But I did come across this shoo-fly that was initially posted on NLA back in 2012 by unihikid.


Robert T. McVay photograph http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11295

"A shoo-fly under construction on Sunset Boulevard in preparation for a bridge to be built to enable the 101 Freeway to connect with the Pasadena Freeway."

Even with the description I'm having trouble figuring out the exact location of this pic. (which gas-o-meter tank is that?)

I know the three tanks along the Los Angeles River, but this is only one tank.....and the nearest solitary tank was in east Hollywood. -right?

Given the description, I think the shoo-fly must've been where I've arrowed Sunset in the 1948 view below. That would mean that the gasometer must be the top of the largest of the three down by the river. The Historic Aerials image looks to have been taken just before the shoo-fly was built. On the right is a current view for comparison.


Historic Aerials/Google Maps

[ethereal_reality]

Mucho thanks for the aerials Hoss.

yet that gas-o-meter tank looks much too close to be the one(s) near the L.A. River.
I imagine it's a case of foreshortening that we sometime see in vintage photographs.
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[ethereal_reality]

I decided to take a closer look at the tank, and now I see the framework for the other two tanks (they're empty...or at least less than half empty).


detail / enlarged

So Yes, they're the tanks down by the river.

Thanks again for your help Hoss.
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*note the large horizontal sign to the left of the left red arrow. -is it for the L.A. Gas Co., or another company?

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