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Old Posted Jul 3, 2020, 4:03 AM
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Not a military expert, but hard to see a scenario where military helicopters can”t fly and roads are impassible but railways are operational.
Exactly. There's really no national security justification for a railway up the Ottawa Valley. And really, the definition of passable road is very different for the average family sedan and a 20 ton LAV or 70 ton Leopard. Also, for any real and immediate threat, the Hill with the black pajama guys to the Hill with the suits and goatees is 51 km by road (38 km straight line). I bet they can load up and get to any point in the city inside an hour without using their fancy driving skills. Any scenario where they can't do that is most definitely not one where rail is going to useful.

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Just because a rail transport option is provided for 2:45, that doesn't prove that there is an intention to build such an option. It can also be used to prove that the additional demand for such a short travel time does not justify the incremental capital costs required for achieving it...
Fair point. I most definitely had not considered that this may not be a realistic offering but polling to help inform future investment.
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2020, 12:45 PM
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Exactly. There's really no national security justification for a railway up the Ottawa Valley. And really, the definition of passable road is very different for the average family sedan and a 20 ton LAV or 70 ton Leopard. Also, for any real and immediate threat, the Hill with the black pajama guys to the Hill with the suits and goatees is 51 km by road (38 km straight line). I bet they can load up and get to any point in the city inside an hour without using their fancy driving skills. Any scenario where they can't do that is most definitely not one where rail is going to useful.
True. On top of that, the only way to make rail a viable contingency plan would be for the forces to purchase and maintain rail equipment to use in that contingency. Waiting for VIA to send equipment to Petawawa would make that option impracticable, especially if the track wasn't regularly used for passenger service.
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Old Posted Jul 4, 2020, 5:37 PM
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I believe he's referring to the CTA allowing CN to remove the Beachburg sub through the Ottawa Valley in 2013. During the protests in February, all I kept thinking was that CN and CP really put all their eggs in that one basket along the lakeshore and destroyed any backup route. Also, no direct rail link from Petawawa to Ottawa anymore seems like national security mistake but what do I know. $$$>all
Really putting all our eggs in one basket. Especially considering the recent railway blockades it would be really good to have some redundancy in the network.
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Old Posted Jul 4, 2020, 6:46 PM
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Really putting all our eggs in one basket. Especially considering the recent railway blockades it would be really good to have some redundancy in the network.
redundancy is a thing of the past. Now, it is thin margins and maximizing profits. Redundancy costs money.
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