NEW YORK | 220 Central Park So.| 952 FT | 70 FLOORS

[McSky]

Originally Posted by simms3_redux

I'm less a fan of Stern than I was, but how can you not LOVE 15 Central Park West? I think unfortunately in this building's case, two things against it architecturally in my mind:

1) From my lay person's perspective it seems to copy almost verbatim 30 Park Place downtown. Lame (and I prefer 30 Park Place for a host of reasons)

2) The north-south angle is fine, even if it's a copy of 30 PP and has that traditional "Stern for the wealthy" look repeated time and time again. However, it is WAY too skinny from the east-west angle!! I don't like a tower this tall being so lopsided in dimensions.

My humble opinion.

I like the skinny aspect as seen from the east and west. It looks elegant. And we knew the building would be as wide as possible facing the Park, for obvious reasons. I'd like to see a bit more detail in the exterior, but for me, that's true of most of Stern's designs. And I think the crown could more refined, or could have a defining feature.

Overall, I think it's terrific. I just worry that 225 W 57th's Cthulhu architecture looming over it will lessen the impact of 220 CPS.

[jackster99]

Originally Posted by NYguy

^ Sure did. We need a super-villain to move into that penthouse. I can't wait to take photos of this. It should also work nicely with 111 W. 57th as a NY classic.

Thats a great idea NYguy. I have heard rumblings that the next Bond film might take place in NYC (which imo is long overdue). If that does indeed happen, this would be a perfect film location for the next Bond villain lair.

[Tectonic]

Very elegant building. Nordstrom Tower will 'photo bomb' from many angles.

[NYguy]

^ The Nordstrom has me concerned right now.

Originally Posted by jackster99

Thats a great idea NYguy. I have heard rumblings that the next Bond film might take place in NYC (which imo is long overdue). If that does indeed happen, this would be a perfect film location for the next Bond villain lair.

Maybe they should bring back Dr. Evil.


http://content.time.com/time/special...078213,00.html






Stern knows what works, and what sells. This is a taller, refined version of 15 CPW, complete with smaller sidekick. Of course, the people at 15 CPW get the added benefit of seeing this beauty.

[nomad11]

Very nice...I wonder if 1.) This persuades Barnett and his people to re-think and improve the preliminary design of Nordstrom tower (which they might have been doing already) and 2.) If this puts pressure on them to release detailed renderings sooner rather than later

[vandelay]

This building is A number 1, king of the hill, top of the heap. Even if this is a building for the .01%, these kinds of projects are the pride of the entire city.

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[King DenCity]

Very Classy. One of my new favs.

[Crawford]

Hopefully this raises the bar for all the upcoming towers.

We already know 111 W 57 will be spectacular, but the initial rough images of 225 W. 57 are disappointing, and we have no idea what's planned for the Shvo tower, the Vornado site at 31 W. 57, the Solow site at 16-18 W. 57, or the Durst site at 52 W. 57.

So we really have four towers where we have no clue re. design, and a fifth with only a rough outline. And on CPS we have a sixth where we have no clue with the former Helmsley Park Lane site.

[Onn]

I dislike the lack of a glass curtain wall, that's very disappointing. I thought we were kind of done with stone by now. I mean I know 30 Park Place is the same, but I figured that was a one time deal. Not a huge fan of Stern.

[Hypothalamus]

This is very exciting and quite the surprise! The tapering/crown is sophisticated and classic, which I greatly admire.

[scalziand]

Amazing! Really hope this unveiling puts pressure on Extel to have a better design for 225.

[Perklol]

It's super thin

[King DenCity]

^^If not then this tower will essentially be a small distraction from "random-box-tower".

Oh and can we get a diagram for this?

[Hypothalamus]

At ground level...

220 Central Park South adds 14-story adjacent building
Renderings revealed at Vornado's Robert A.M. Stern-designed condo
Mark Maurer January 15, 2014 02:35PM

Vornado Realty Trust unveiled renderings for the Robert A.M. Stern-designed condominium tower at 220 Central Park South that reveal a second, smaller 14-story structure on the site.
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It looks like that 14 story building will be what's directly on CPS

[scalziand]

Originally Posted by tubeworm

It looks like that 14 story building will be what's directly on CPS

We pretty much already knew that the main tower wouldn't be directly on CPS because of the deal Vornado made with Extel to get them out of the underground garage lease, where Vornado had to shift the tower as far west as possible to not block views for 225. This is also why Extel is trying to cantilever his tower over the ASL to the east.

[ILNY]

Nordstrom tower will look even more ugly next to this beauty. Do you think that Barnett will go full height with his tower now?

[King DenCity]

Let's hope so. and with a better design too.

[Hypothalamus]

Originally Posted by scalziand

We pretty much already knew that the main tower wouldn't be directly on CPS because of the deal Vornado made with Extel to get them out of the underground garage lease, where Vornado had to shift the tower as far west as possible to not block views for 225. This is also why Extel is trying to cantilever his tower over the ASL to the east.

Ahh-- gotcha. I wouldn't want the main tower on CPS, either. I guess it kinda worked out on its own.

[M. Incandenza]

Very nice. I do wish one of these ultra-luxe buildings would really fully embrace ornament, though; it would be great to start writing ornamental design back into the skyline, and god knows these projects could afford to do so. And this one, like 30 Park Place, is already built with traditional aesthetics in mind, so it could really support it in a great way.

[yankeesfan1000]

The crown, massing, and materials, are just perfect for this location. I imagine Stern has something similar planned for his 60th St building, but I can't wait to see what he's come up with.

Any ideas on funding?