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[FredH]

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

I think Fred is actually asking about the location used for the dog track in the movie 'Johnny Eager' with Robert Taylor. Not a real dog track. And, for Fred, my vote would be yes.

I think the movie was set in New York, if I remember. I have a suspicion that the track never existed and was somehow "built" with Hollywood imagination.

You and my wife are of the same mind.

[Hollywood Graham]

pan pacific was a great venue, I used to ride my bike from Silverlake to the Auto Show, I remember the introduction of the 53 Corvette, they had a trunk of one where you could jump on it to show how strong it was. Also used to ride down the street to the Aquarium Stock Co. and buy a couple fish to bring home for my aquarium. They made it all the way in the plastic bag. I did not think that Pan Pacific was as old as it was.

[FredH]

http://tsutpen.blogspot.com/2010/09/...mboats-36.html

[FredH]

http://audioinfosource.com/2011/12/t...-small-studio/

THE WORLD’S SMALLEST RECORDING STUDIO?
Check out this 1946 photo of the (now long-gone) Hollywood Recording Studio in downtown Los Angeles, owned by engineer Mr. J. T. Martin. The 9×9-foot structure is divided into two rooms—a 6×9 combination office/control room, and an elongated 3×9-foot recording area.

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Belasco Theater.



usc digital archiv
Above: No date or address.

Two Belascos. The old one at 3rd and Main ^^ and the newer one, next to the Mayan, below vvv at 105 S. Hill Street. Still going strong. (Parking fees may have increased in the past 80+ years.)


http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/27684/photos/24392




Don't believe these vvv have been posted before.


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Series from http://catalog.library.ca.gov/F/EC37...003&format=999


Marquee: Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (ca. 1928) The Son-Daughter, ca. 1932

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Circa 1928
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Circa 1927 - to the right of the Mayan

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

San Fernando Rd (1936)

GoogleSV
Originally built for the Hemphill Diesel Engineering Schools

GW, I thought you might find this interesting.

"In 1936, Architects Norstrom and Anderson expanded an existing lumber shed from 1923 and added a streamlined, two-story office portion
fronting San Fernando Road. The addition features a central tower and one of Los Angeles' great architectural tributes to the machine age:
an expansive frieze across the facade with reliefs depicting the use of diesel engines in trains, planes, ships, trucks, tractors, and electric
generating sets."


found on ebay



I'm curious about the lantern atop the tower. I wonder how it was lit? beacon-like?

gsv



stark lines-a contemporary view

Don Saban at http://www.flickr.com/



streamline train






stylized rainbow




ocean liner

http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilfit...ck/4471934106/


dirigible

Scott Lowe at http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottlowe/7003155602/






After Hemphill's departure, the building on San Fernando Road became a pressing plant for Capitol Records.


unknown



below: Stan Kenton at Capitol Records' pressing plant.* ( I marked Shelly Manne with a red V)


http://digital.library.unt.edu/

* To be honest, I am not 100% sure this is the San Fernando Road pressing plant. When I first noticed Shelly Manne I immediately thought L.A.!
but Mr. Manne didn't move to Los Angeles until the late 1950s. -so this could possibly be an east coast plant.


previous post on Shelly Manne and his "Manne-Hole" on Cahuenga between Sunset & Hollywood Boulevard.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3443
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[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham

pan pacific was a great venue, I used to ride my bike from Silverlake to the Auto Show, I remember the introduction of the 53 Corvette, they had a trunk of one where you could jump on it to show how strong it was. Also used to ride down the street to the Aquarium Stock Co. and buy a couple fish to bring home for my aquarium. They made it all the way in the plastic bag. I did not think that Pan Pacific was as old as it was.

Believe there have been a couple of posts that pictured but did not mention the Aquarium Stock Co. 8070 Beverly Blvd. East of Crescent Heights. Not familiar with the business but vaguely recall the store advertising sign. Blue with white lettering?


google

Due west across Crescent Heights: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9425

Was your bike a Schwinn, Huffy or a Murray?

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

A friend of mine who doesn't post here himself--a native and lifelong Angeleno with a great sense of his city's history--found two fantastic shots of the Green in his collection and has been kind enough to allow me to post them on Noirish. He's done an incredible job of inserting what remains of the building into the original from 1894. The third picture is dated 1924.




You can see that the enlargement of the four small windows under the arches on the north side was done, as was the addition of a door, some time before 1924.


All pics: Private Collection

Simply amazing!! Thank your friend for me GW. -this is priceless
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[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Undated

I really like this photograph BifRayRock. I've never noticed the five gigantic vents on the roof before.
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[Krell58]

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck

Got milk?



Crescent Milk from Crescent Creamery, on Slauson Avenue. (The enlarged images look fine to me )


Circa 1924
Lapl


Circa 1926

Lapl

Thanks!!

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by belmont bob

I remember attending an auto show c.1960 and also Ice Follies or such with my parents probably more than once. Grand building for sure.

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham

pan pacific was a great venue, I used to ride my bike from Silverlake to the Auto Show, I remember the introduction of the 53 Corvette, they had a trunk of one where you could jump on it to show how strong it was. Also used to ride down the street to the Aquarium Stock Co. and buy a couple fish to bring home for my aquarium. They made it all the way in the plastic bag. I did not think that Pan Pacific was as old as it was.

I keep thinking some of us must have crossed paths when we were youngsters. MichaelRyerson posted a few pages back about being taken shopping at the 7th and Broadway Bullock's. My sister and I hated making the rounds of the Broadway, Bullock's, May Co and Robinson's . We used to beg to be left at Central Library instead (the only place we were allowed to be downtown alone as kids). Some days our wish was granted. Heaven.

(I was still shopping at Bullock's and Robinson's right to the end in the 70s and 80s, finally appreciating them. Bullock's was quirky and old-fashioned, but Robinson's was a gorgeous store. Last I heard it was a switch hotel.)

I loved Pan Pacific Auditorium though. I thought it was thrilling. Could not get enough.

We knew it was a goner when the big new post office was built way too close to the Pan Pacific's western front about the same time, I think, Pan Pacific Park went in. The park is a big hole in the ground, excavated to be part of LA's flood control system. I've seen it quite full. They pump the water up to the storm drains in big hoses. Pan Pacific Rec Center was built after the fire that destroyed the auditorium.

[Lwize]

What building was being completed in the background as the Belasco was under construction?

[belmont bob]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

A friend of mine who doesn't post here himself--a native and lifelong Angeleno with a great sense of his city's history--found two fantastic shots of the Green in his collection and has been kind enough to allow me to post them on Noirish. He's done an incredible job of inserting what remains of the building into the original from 1894. The third picture is dated 1924.




You can see that the enlargement of the four small windows under the arches on the north side was done, as was the addition of a door, some time before 1924.


All pics: Private Collection

i wrote on a earlier post today that the door in the corner was not there when i worked in the local area ('68-'80) but i guess my memory was not so good, but i do remember that even though the door may have been there, it was not used in those days. Google Stats Pasadena images and some of those will show bits of the interior.

[Krell58]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tHIN...eature=related


A remnant in plain sight? "Mysterious stairs" behind McKenzie, Brackman, Chaney and Kuzak (ok, 444 S. Flower) in this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tHIN...eature=related


Are these stairs a remnant of old Bunker Hill? It looks it on film, but I can't really tell if the concrete is definitely older than the newer construction. Anyone have any ideas of where they may have once led? (Btw--there are no clues on the big 1931 map of downtown....)

Here's how the mysterious stairs look on LA Noire, and I gave a link to the LA Stooges lady that posted the original video.

• Video Link

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

The background construction is likely the California Federal Plaza at 5670 Wilshire. Sources suggest it was completed in '63 which may mean the Pan Pacific - Bell Rocket Belt photos were earlier than listed.

http://you-are-here.com/modern/mutual_benefit.html





http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...70279&page=522

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I really like this photograph BifRayRock. I've never noticed the five gigantic vents on the roof before.
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They certainly seem pronounced there. In another image (below) they seem less so. I took them to be roof windows with the dual purpose of illumination and venting.

Since the venue served as an ice rink, I also assumed the Pan was originally equipped with air conditioning that actually functioned. Would anyone happen to know if these climate controlled buildings of the '30s and '40s made use of any specialized thermal insulation? I know heated water pipes and duct work was often asbestos wrapped, but what about the Pan's apparently thin walls and ceilings? Plaster, wood lathe and a couple of extra heavy layers of oil-based paint?

Lapl


Few dates provided:
1890 - C. Ducommun - 204 N. Main Street (after 1890 at 304 N. Main Street)



Brown & Foster Hardware


Dunn Edwards - 960 Block of North Highland google



Eastern Outfitting Co. Hardware store - 855 So. Main Street


Hellman Hardware, two convenient locations: 744 So. Spring St. and 747 So. Main St.



1932 - Rompage Hardware Co., - 5512 Hollywood Blvd.


Except where noted, all from LAPL

[Flyingwedge]

For a brief time, Westchester had the Loyola, the Paradise, and a third theater. It was the 1,530-seat La Tijera, on La Tijera Blvd. just south of Centinela in far NE Westchester. The S. Charles Lee-designed building operated as a theater only for about four years, starting in January 1949. Next it was a bowling alley and is now an office building.

As an idea:

UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...601&FULLSIZE=y
All UCLA pics are copyright Julius Schulman.

As built (Abbott and Costello re-releases from 1941 & 42?):

UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...602&FULLSIZE=y


LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics18/00028700.jpg


Cinema Treasures -- http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/2030/photos/19521
My grandparents went to high school with Robert Young (Lincoln HS in Los Angeles). Grandpa said people called Robert Young "The Undertaker" because he always wore black.


UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...603&FULLSIZE=y

Looking out:

UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...604&FULLSIZE=y

The foyer:

UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...606&FULLSIZE=y


UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...605&FULLSIZE=y

Ladies' Lounge:

UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...607&FULLSIZE=y

The Auditorium:

UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...608&FULLSIZE=y


Cinema Treasures -- http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/2030/photos/19523

Ads:

Cinema Treasures -- http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/2030/photos/36183


Ken McIntyre -- http://s132.beta.photobucket.com/use...02-74.jpg.html

Los Angeles Times movie guide for January 29, 1949. Both La Tijera and Loyola theaters are mentioned in display ads:
(link only) http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...29_theater.jpg

And the last time the Googlemobile went by:

GSV

[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by belmont bob

Yes, and Michael, that was what I was leading up to, it's just Hollywood trickery and any shots of a real dog track (i've never seen the movie) would be from some other place.

Well duh. See subtlety doesn't work for me, I'm too dense. I figured you were smart enough to get Fred's drift but I couldn't read your tone of voice.

[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I really like this photograph BifRayRock. I've never noticed the five gigantic vents on the roof before.
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If memory serves, I think those were sky-lights. Of course, if they were openable, then vents too.

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by Lwize

What building was being completed in the background as the Belasco was under construction?

1106 S. Broadway (?) Known by several names, including the Case Hotel and Job Corp building .

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17616...os-Angeles-CA/


1926
CalStLib


Edit: The dated Belasco construction photos call into doubt the source's 1922 attribution date.
LAPL

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1955 (?)


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