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ethereal_reality · #**27061** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 4:33 PM**

Thanks oldstuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis

Your bringing this up again finally flogged my memory about this phenomenon. I remember reading some years back that at the time
they were popularly believed to be dinosaur eggs!

Here's a link to a Google Books excerpt that gives a bit of detail:

https://books.google.com/books?id=u7...20blvd&f=false

I am so glad you remembered this Otis! I don't feel so crazy now.

https://books.google.com/books?id=u7...20blvd&f=false

"The spheres seem to be, for the most part, perfectly round, not oval or flattened."

-but it doesn't say what formed the 'spheres'. - were they 'polished' by rolling around on the ocean floor? (half-jest)

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Tourmaline · #**27062** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 4:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Looking4OldLA

Lotta leg for 1911

Corrected. Note source following image "1936."

While playing host to a multitude of Pacific Fleet sailors and seamen, Long Beach probably offered a lotta things - even in the early part of the last century.

1924 - Pike Panorama

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single.../id/4424/rec/3

Sailors on Liberty in Long Beach (date unk)

http://www.ussprime.org/BertsSwabs.jpg

ethereal_reality · #**27063** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 4:41 PM**

HossC, thanks for the follow-up on the Helicab photograph. I liked the screen-grabs of Hickey & Boggs.

...but where do you think this helipad was located- Do you think it was the Statler?

eBay

I just noticed you can see the Union Oil Center at far right under the tail blades.---->

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Martin Pal · #**27064** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 4:54 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline

Sailors on Liberty in Long Beach (date unk)

http://www.ussprime.org/BertsSwabs.jpg

Of course, I don't know, but I'm getting a '50's vibe from this one.

ethereal_reality · #**27065** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 5:00 PM**

posted by Richard Herreck at https://www.facebook.com/VintageLosAngeles

Grauman's is in the distance, and the Hollywood Hotel is in the trees at far right.

HossC · #**27066** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 7:03 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

HossC, thanks for the follow-up on the Helicab photograph. I liked the screen-grabs of Hickey & Boggs.

...But where do you think this helipad was located- Do you think it was the Statler?

eBay

I just noticed you can see the Union Oil Center at far right under the tail blades.---->

OK, I'm now just about definite that the Helicab was on the Statler Hilton. This image from the same seller shows a different view from a 1962 Helicab tour. On the left is the southern arm of the Statler Hilton, with the Wellington Apartment Hotel in the center. Going back to the original image (above), the black and white sign just visible in the lower-right corner is the top of the sign for the Rex Arms.

eBay

Here's a detail from a USC image that they date at 1968. The Wellington is to the left of the Statler Hilton, and the Rex Arms is above the Wellington. Originally, the "Statler Hilton" signs were on the roofs of the arms on the west (the left of this image). In this picture, the lettering on the northern arm has been moved along to a different roof, and there's definitely a rectangular structure where it used to be. This would be the right location for the picture above.

Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality · #**27067** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 7:22 PM**

Great sleuthing HossC! You located the Statler helipad!
I thought it would have been on the opposite end of the roof on that raised portion.(where it's wider)

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below: This is an exciting find.

"1947 Albany Street Los Angeles California Rare Photo Martinette Apt. Bldg."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-Albany-...item541bb6d70a

In the distance, under the hand-written x is the Albany Apartment building (there's a sign if you look real close). The Martinette might be the brick building on the right, but I'm not sure.

detail / the Albany sign (Is that tall building in the distance the old Mayfair Hotel?)

detail

LAPL

LAPL

The Albany Apartments and the other building on the left (west) side of the street are gone. -replaced by the Loyola Law School Parking Garage.

GSV

...and here's the east side of the 900 block of Albany Street. Pretty much the same!

GSV

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ethereal_reality · #**27068** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 8:43 PM**

Here is another interesting photograph of Albany Street from the same eBay seller.

"1947 Albany Street Los Angeles California Rare Photo Collins Apartment"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-Albany-...item20f84f1a49

LAPL

above: I've highlighted the Albany Apt. and the Martinette Apt. (from the previous post) and the Collins Apt. (shown below)

enlargement

I'm a bit confused where the Collins fits into the scheme of things on Albany. (and I'm still not sure which building in the previous post was the Martinette)
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*OK I figured it out. The Collins was lost to the Loyola Parking Garage. (I don't know why I was thinking it was across the street)

And......after looking at both 1947 photographs, I believe the first photograph (below) was taken from the second tier of the Collins Apt. front porch!! -pretty cool huh

HossC · #**27069** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 9:24 PM**

It makes things so much easier when old photos come with locations. This is 1320 E 49th Street, 5-20-'07. The 1909 and 1911 CDs have a stove repairer called Jacob W King at that address. By 1915 he's just listed as a "repair man". Sadly, the little house is no longer there.

The reverse has a pencil-written transcription of the sign:

"GASOLENE STOVES CLEANED. LAWN MOWERS SHARPED (SIC)"

I think they actually spelled "Gasoline" correctly on the sign, but it does say "Sharped".

eBay

ethereal_reality · #**27070** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 9:39 PM**

"1951, Columbia Avenue Los Angeles California Dar-Mar Arms Apartment Photo"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-Columbi...item541bb70428

Dar-Mar Arms Apartment 814 Columbia Ave. Los Angeles

This one is still standing.

(but with a hideous 'cage' door)

GSV

very nice details

to give you an idea where Columbia Avenue is

google_earth

ethereal_reality · #**27071** Posted **Mar 19, 2015, 11:31 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location

old file of mine/possibly from eBay

I've been trying to figure out the name on that roof-top sign in the distance. (I'm pretty sure the second word is 'Foods')

NLAers, I just came a second photograph with that roof-top sign in the distance.
Luckily this one has the location.

"3032 in Palm Place loop South Gate"

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30993133@N04/

By having the name, I was able to find this aerial by Harry Marnell.

http://harrymarnell.net/palmplsky.jpg

But I haven't located that market yet.
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HossC · #**27072** Posted **Mar 20, 2015, 12:46 AM**

It's Serber's Foods, which is listed at 2620 Santa Ana Street, South Gate in the 1956, 1960 and 1973 CDs. This image is dated 1954.

ozfan22 on Flickr

BTW. I've just found the original image in the Metro Library and Archive on Flickr, and it has the title "J line at Palm Pl. loop".

ethereal_reality · #**27073** Posted **Mar 20, 2015, 12:56 AM**

Thanks for locating the market Hoss. I really appreciate it.
The sloped roof looks extremely large. I see 4 oversized vents and 2 extremely tall refrigeration units. (not to mention the top-heavy rooftop sign)
Is it still standing? (I'll have to check it out)

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Flyingwedge · #**27074** Posted **Mar 20, 2015, 1:24 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline

1933 - Jean does Mines in Packard

http://waterandpower.org/4%20Histori...Field_1933.jpg

I believe this is not a Packard but instead a 1932 or 1933 Auburn. Does anyone agree?

CityBoyDoug · #**27075** Posted **Mar 20, 2015, 2:39 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

I believe this is not a Packard but instead a 1932 or 1933 Auburn. Does anyone agree?

Auburn.....lovely car for sure. Probably a bit pricey in those days, also.

remarkablecars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_Automobile

HossC · #**27076** Posted **Mar 20, 2015, 2:06 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

"3032 in Palm Place loop South Gate"

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30993133@N04/

By having the name, I was able to find this aerial by Harry Marnell.

http://harrymarnell.net/palmplsky.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for locating the market Hoss. I really appreciate it.
The sloped roof looks extremely large. I see 4 oversized vents and 2 extremely tall refrigeration units. (not to mention the top-heavy rooftop sign)
Is it still standing? (I'll have to check it out)

Harry Marnell's aerial shows the Palm Place Loop after the area was redeveloped in the 1970s. Here's a 1972 aerial with Santa Ana Street going straight through between Long Beach Boulevard and Seville Avenue. I've marked Serber's Foods and the original loop.

Historic Aerials

By 1980, the Serber's Foods building and the loop had become part of a parking lot for a new mall which was built on the original alignment of Santa Ana Street. Santa Ana Street still exists on this block, but it's now a much narrower street which zig-zags behind the mall. The loop, as marked on Harry Marnell's aerial, had moved to its current location south of Palm Place.

Historic Aerials

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Yesterday there was a message on PhotoBucket saying they were performing maintenance on the site, but everything appeared to work OK for me. Today I found that all 10 images that I uploaded yesterday were replaced by a small message saying the image had been moved or deleted. This problem only seems to have affected the images I uploaded yesterday, and I have re-uploaded them. I have since read that PhotoBucket has a limit of 2500 images per album, and I appear to have hit that limit. Seeing as Photobucket didn't warn me that I'd reached this limit, it's possible that other images have disappeared. If anyone spots any more images of mine replaced with a similar message, please PM me - thanks.

oldstuff · #**27077** Posted **Mar 20, 2015, 4:57 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC

It makes things so much easier when old photos come with locations. This is 1320 E 49th Street, 5-20-'07. The 1909 and 1911 CDs have a stove repairer called Jacob W King at that address. By 1915 he's just listed as a "repair man". Sadly, the little house is no longer there.

The reverse has a pencil-written transcription of the sign:

"GASOLENE STOVES CLEANED. LAWN MOWERS SHARPED (SIC)"

I think they actually spelled "Gasoline" correctly on the sign, but it does say "Sharped".

eBay

Jacob W. King was born in Missouri in about 1845. His wife was Clara (Galbriath). Maybe that is Clara in the picture on the porch. They had a daughter Nelly and in the 1910 Census there was also a boarder, Ida Davis, living with them. Jacob is listed in that Census as a "stove repairer". In 1900 they were living in Illinois and were in LA by 1907 when the picture was taken. Jacob does not appear in any census after 1910.

They appear in the 1900 Census in Keithsburg, Illinois and Jacob's occupation at that time was a "button cutter". Button cutters would literally make buttons out of shells.

Tourmaline · #**27078** Posted **Mar 21, 2015, 12:36 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Another popular coffee in the Los Angeles area and beyond was...

ebay

V.C. Buckley circa 1937

I'm trying to figure out the location of this photo. I haven't had any luck so far.

nice neon sign

http://www.prices4antiques.com/

Ben-Hur coffee stand on Wilshire.

LAPL

and on W. Washington.

LAPL

More Healthful and . . . um . . . Ben Hur Wins Again!

1932

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/33837/rec/46

And He means it!

1932 RKO Publicity shot

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...39742/rec/4470

HossC · #**27079** Posted **Mar 21, 2015, 12:51 AM**

This slide comes with the following details:

Location: 7th Av EB at Los Angeles St (Pacific Electric tracks curving to 6th & Main surface yard)
Route: S
Date: 1948

It's obviously E 7th Street, not 7th Avenue, but otherwise the location is correct.

eBay

The sign above the streetcar identifies the building on the left as one of the M J Connell Buildings. These now seem to be called the Cornell Buildings (see post #14670 and post #15886), but according to santeecourt.com, this corner building is now the Connell Building. Here's the view today.

GSV

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Thanks for the extra information on Jacob W King, oldstuff.

GaylordWilshire · #**27080** Posted **Mar 21, 2015, 2:35 PM**

I've been working on another house-history site to go along with those on Berkeley Square, Wilshire Boulevard, and St. James Park--this one, on Fremont Place. There are now 19 in the "inventory," more to come: fremontplace.blogspot.com

Facebook page HERE