Urban living in Edmonton

[Coldrsx]

Certainly, but share an image of a vibrant marketplace with people and produce that also shares that there is free parking.

This is your one change to inspire and encourage others to want to come.

That image indicates that this 'market' is in a fallow part of town with gravel lots and nothing interesting around it.

Not compelling at all folks.

This is marketing 101.

[feepa]

lol at the comments, especially the ones around 'car drivers aren't the target market for farmers market' lolllllzzzz

You would probably be shocked to know that there are many more farmers markets that occur all around the city on a weekly basis, and they are usually far better priced that Strathcona/Downtown Farmers markets.... those markets know they have hungry wanna be hipstas frothing from their mouth to try to be the latest 'cool' locked in at those two locations... I avoid at all costs unless wanted to 'people watch', you can get your farm-to-table fresh produce for much cheaper and without the hipsta crowds at all the other markets... and guess what kids... they have free parking!!@$@#_)(%@_)#$%(@_#)))_ Be Afraid!

[feepa]

A vibrant farmers market is probably one that doesn't cost taxpayers a million dollars a year in subsidies ...

[Coldrsx]

There are indeed a ton of options all over the city now and central ones need to sharpen pencils and marketing campaigns.

[Coldrsx]

Spent the evening walking the East Village in Calgary (and East Downtown).

I was very impressed by what they have done here. It reminded me of the potential of places such as The Quarters and West Rossdale and how we must continue to find ways to move these plans/spaces/places forward.

The quality of urban design, planning, finishes, attention to details is very high.

We also need to find another way to get an Alt branded property/development in the core. We are missing this level of design, pricing and look/feel.

A few more if you like.
http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244012

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Spent the evening walking the East Village in Calgary (and East Downtown).

I was very impressed by what they have done here. It reminded me of the potential of places such as The Quarters and West Rossdale and how we must continue to find ways to move these plans/spaces/places forward.

The quality of urban design, planning, finishes, attention to details is very high.

We also need to find another way to get an Alt branded property/development in the core. We are missing this level of design, pricing and look/feel.

A few more if you like.
http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244012

The CMLC did a great job with that area. Unsure how the COE has struggled so greatly for the past 15 years with the Quarters whereas Calgary managed to figure the East Village out in under ten.

[Coldrsx]

They began working on the East Village in the early 2000s, with preliminary work slightly earlier than that.

[Coldrsx]

Rethinking Downtowns during/post COVID.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/the-covi...r&_gsc=woCIW3U

[CMD UW]

Originally Posted by Harrison

The CMLC did a great job with that area. Unsure how the COE has struggled so greatly for the past 15 years with the Quarters whereas Calgary managed to figure the East Village out in under ten.

Because the COE didn't acquire all of the land PRIOR to producing a new redevelopment plan and rezoning the land leaving it all up to developers to assemble developable blocks, which is comprised of small fragmented lots.

[Coldrsx]

A reminder.

http://www.iheartedmonton.ca/2018/02...dmonton_5.html

[Coldrsx]

This is stirring the pot and getting a lot of attention...

https://old.reddit.com/r/Edmonton/co...ont_feel_safe/

[s211]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

This is stirring the pot and getting a lot of attention...

https://old.reddit.com/r/Edmonton/co...ont_feel_safe/

Whenever I travel to Edmonton, I used to make an effort to go downtown and support what retailers were still there. Now? Retailers bailing, and walking public areas is a miserable experience. The last two times I was in town? Skipped going downtown because there wasn't anything left worth seeing or doing. Being in Manulife and City Center with BMX'ers literally riding in the mall: what the ever-loving hell !!!

Blame covid, blame the man, blame the system, but downtown Edmonton feels like its been abandoned by civic leaders, their constituents have followed, and misery has filled in the gaps.

[thatyegguy]

fully concur. went from being a booster and supporter to staying as far away i can. the irony the most 'urban' council has squandered the most significant chance to turn dt around with the building of the arena. and to lose that momentum since rogers place opened is an absolute tragedy. there are many sides to blame but the buck stops at city hall.
i'll give this example: when a business tried to put a preventative measure in place to prevent loitering and drug dealers from congregating, the social justice warrior left threw a hissy fit. so, the spikes were removed and the problem not solved. the mayor and councillors showed no leadership. no support for the struggles of the business; all because they're worried about public social media admonishment from some hipsters who talk a big game but offer no real solutions.
what dt needs are people living there-- a lot of people, to bring eyes onto the street, demand for services, etc.
but council has dropped that ball too, by spreading the pie too thin. in a city where the cost of a home is affordable, there is limited demand for high rise boxed living. whatever demand there is should be focused on dt and area. there's no market for bonnie doon or strathearn or jasper place or century park etc. combined. so, we lose that moth to flame effect; no place of true urban activity that everyone is attracted to.

an absolute tragedy. no wonder the city has such a bad rep. 'deadmonton, eh'

[Harrison]

What is the solution for making Downtown less sketchy? Hard to attract more residents when they wouldn't want to move into an already sketchy neighbourhood.

[Coldrsx]

Downtown made significant progress on the 'feeling/perception of safety' between 2010 and 2017. We went from 37-63% of people feeling safe in the area.

I'd say that we have reverted back to about 25%.

Sadly, we don't hold people accountable for their actions, somehow permit a lot of things that we simply should not and the drug use/mental health issues have grown exponentially.

[itom 987]

No one is in downtown due to covid19 no festivals, no places to shop etc. All the remains are the hobos. This situation could have been a lot worse we haven't added more residential to downtown in the last 20 years. I am 100% certain that things will be back to normal when the pandemic is over.

[itom 987]

It looks like the hobos are everywhere throughout the city. I saw a tent pitched up beside 100 Ave. east and 186 St., I went for coffee at West Block, Stony Plain Rd. and 142 St. when leaving I saw a hobo with a blanket walk by carrying a half empty bottle of vodka.

[tkoe]

Originally Posted by thatyegguy

fully concur. went from being a booster and supporter to staying as far away i can. the irony the most 'urban' council has squandered the most significant chance to turn dt around with the building of the arena. and to lose that momentum since rogers place opened is an absolute tragedy. there are many sides to blame but the buck stops at city hall.
i'll give this example: when a business tried to put a preventative measure in place to prevent loitering and drug dealers from congregating, the social justice warrior left threw a hissy fit. so, the spikes were removed and the problem not solved. the mayor and councillors showed no leadership. no support for the struggles of the business; all because they're worried about public social media admonishment from some hipsters who talk a big game but offer no real solutions.
what dt needs are people living there-- a lot of people, to bring eyes onto the street, demand for services, etc.
but council has dropped that ball too, by spreading the pie too thin. in a city where the cost of a home is affordable, there is limited demand for high rise boxed living. whatever demand there is should be focused on dt and area. there's no market for bonnie doon or strathearn or jasper place or century park etc. combined. so, we lose that moth to flame effect; no place of true urban activity that everyone is attracted to.

an absolute tragedy. no wonder the city has such a bad rep. 'deadmonton, eh'

This is a terrible take.

[kcantor]

^^^^^^

lose that “moth to flame effect”? you mean the one where all the moths die?

there is no question that there are problems downtown - and elsewhere for that matter - but that problem isn’t increased density elsewhere.

it’s closed streets and sidewalks, insufficient policing, an insufficient social safety net, poor public housing policy by three levels of government and some rather strange priorities when it comes to spending and civic pride.

[s211]

Originally Posted by kcantor

it’s closed streets and sidewalks, insufficient policing, an insufficient social safety net, pilot public housing policy by three levels of government and some rather strange priorities when it comes to spending and civic pride.

I'm with you 100% on that.