US Commerce Dept: CSA and MSA GDP 2021

[dimondpark]

Released December 8, 2022

In Millions of Dollars

Combined Statistical Area(CSA) GDP, 2021:
$100B+
1 New York-Newark $2,258,553,499
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach $1,396,198,551
3 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $1,250,885,571
4 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington $869,398,252
5 Chicago-Naperville $784,702,076
6 Boston-Worcester-Providence $746,085,360
7 Dallas-Fort Worth $617,313,236
8 Houston-The Woodlands $546,663,324
9 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden $538,589,225
10 Seattle-Tacoma $527,938,831
11 Atlanta-Athens-Sandy Springs $517,720,455
12 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale $452,079,574
13 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor $339,666,852
14 Minneapolis-St Paul $320,370,771
15 Phoenix-Mesa $318,238,390
16 Denver-Aurora $308,663,718
17 Orlando-Lakeland-Deltona $232,596,501
18 Cleveland-Akron-Canton $231,521,934
19 Portland-Vancouver-Salem $224,956,326
20 Charlotte-Concord $214,826,266
21 Salt Lake City-Provo-Orem $195,835,314
22 St Louis-St Charles-Farmington $191,030,001
23 Indianapolis-Carmel-Muncie $182,754,088
24 Pittsburgh-New Castle-Weirton $182,743,543
25 Cincinnati-Wilmington-Maysville $175,640,872
26 Columbus-Marion-Zanesville $174,627,611
27 Sacramento-Roseville $173,683,400
28 Kansas City-Overland Park-Kansas City $170,529,855
29 Raleigh-Durham-Cary $170,469,927
30 Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro $167,841,133
31 San Antonio-New Braunfels-Pearsall $145,634,572
32 Las Vegas-Henderson $138,407,483
33 Milwaukee-Racine-Waukesha $134,046,299
34 Hartford-East Hartford $127,250,669
35 VIrginia Beach-Norfolk $112,071,773
36 Jacksonville-St Marys-Palatka $106,044,056

Metropolitan Statistical Area(MSA) GDP 2021:
$100B+
1 New York-Newark-Jersey City $1,992,779,274
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach $1,124,682,354
3 Chicago-Naperville-Elgin $764,583,227
4 San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley $668,677,573
5 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria $607,628,505
6 Dallas-Fort Worth Arlington $598,333,263
7 Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land $537,066,232
8 Boston-Cambridge-Newton $531,671,846
9 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue $479,966,484
10 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington $477,580,629
11 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta $473,823,474
12 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach $417,147,866
13 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara $410,418,579
14 Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler $316,090,586
15 Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington $296,969,112
16 Detroit-Warren-Dearborn $283,660,258
17 San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad $267,973,544
18 Denver-Aurora-Lakewood $253,399,051
19 Baltimore-Columbia-Towson $222,967,241
20 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario $213,183,465
21 Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia $207,866,150
22 Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown $193,773,558
23 Tampa-St Petersburg-Clearwater $190,708,533
24 St Louis $187,569,544
25 Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro $186,570,323
26 Cincinnati $171,737,526
27 Pittsburgh $168,021,049
28 Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford $167,279,974
29 Nashville-Murfreesboro-Franklin $163,031,737
30 Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson $162,062,985
31 Sacramento-Roseville-Folsom $160,542,566
32 Columbus $154,509,800
33 Kansas City $154,328,892
34 Cleveland-Elyria $147,637,827
35 San Antonio-New Braunfels $144,384,474
36 Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise $136,198,676
37 Salt Lake City $118,494,676
38 Milwaukee-Waukesha $111,479,649
39 Raleigh-Cary $108,288,115
40 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News $107,067,798
41 Hartford-East Hartford-Middletown $106,507,622
42 Jacksonville $101,367,263

https://www.bea.gov/news/2022/gross-...ct-county-2021

[Crawford]

Hartford has a bigger GDP than Bridgeport? Would have never guessed this. I knew Hartford is prosperous, but Bridgeport MSA has Bay Area-level incomes and output.

Also, are we missing San Diego on the CSA list? It has to be Top 20.

[wwmiv]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Hartford has a bigger GDP than Bridgeport? Would have never guessed this. I knew Hartford is prosperous, but Bridgeport MSA has Bay Area-level incomes and output.

Also, are we missing San Diego on the CSA list? It has to be Top 20.

Does San Diego have a CSA?

https://www2.census.gov/geo/maps/met...ap_Mar2020.pdf

[dimondpark]

San Diego, Austin and Tampa are not CSAs at this time.

[dimondpark]

Top 25 Metropolitan Statistical Area(MSA) GDPs by 5-Year Growth 2017-2021:
1 New York-Newark-Jersey City +$301.156B
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach +$169.190B
4 San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley +$150.267B
9 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue +$119.652B
6 Dallas-Fort Worth Arlington +$118.318B
13 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara +$117.046B
3 Chicago-Naperville-Elgin +$99.107B
8 Boston-Cambridge-Newton +$98.561B
11 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta +$84.739B
5 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria +$82.876B
12 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach +$76.471B
14 Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler +$71.781B
7 Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land +$64.327B
10 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington +$58.661B
18 Denver-Aurora-Lakewood +$53.219B
22 Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown +$52.583B
17 San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad +$45.245B
20 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario +$44.055B
15 Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington +$41.430B
23 Tampa-St Petersburg-Clearwater +$39.687B
21 Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia +$39.587B
16 Detroit-Warren-Dearborn +$39.531B
25 Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro +$33.477B
24 St Louis +$24.948B
19 Baltimore-Columbia-Towson +$24.391B

Top 25 Metropolitan Statistical Area(MSA) GDPs by 5-Year Percentage Growth 2017-2021:
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara +39.89%
Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown +37.24%
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue +33.20%
Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler +29.38%
San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley +28.98%
Denver-Aurora-Lakewood +26.58%
Tampa-St Petersburg-Clearwater +26.27%
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario +26.04%
Dallas-Fort Worth Arlington +24.64%
Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia +23.52%
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta +23.51%
Boston-Cambridge-Newton +22.75%
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach +22.44%
Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro +21.86%
San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad +20.31%
New York-Newark-Jersey City +17.80%
Los Angeles-Long Beach +17.70%
Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington +16.21%
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria +15.66%
St Louis +15.34%
Chicago-Naperville-Elgin +14.89%
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington +14.00%
Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land +13.60%
Baltimore-Columbia-Towson +12.28%

[dimondpark]

Largest Combined Statistical Area(CSA) GDPs by 5-Year Growth, 2017-2021:
$400B+
1 New York-Newark +$340.052B
3 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland +$302.390B
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach +$221.071B
6 Boston-Worcester-Providence +$130.342B
10 Seattle-Tacoma +$128.253B
7 Dallas-Fort Worth +$120.654B
4 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington +$111.638B
5 Chicago-Naperville +$101.672B
11 Atlanta-Athens-Sandy Springs +$92.553B
12 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale +$82.230B
9 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden +$66.721B
8 Houston-The Woodlands +$66.376B

Largest Combined Statistical Area(CSA) GDPs by 5-Year Percentage Growth, 2017-2021:
Seattle-Tacoma +32.08%
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland +31.88%
Dallas-Fort Worth +24.29%
Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale +22.56%
Atlanta-Athens-Sandy Springs +21.76%
Boston-Worcester-Providence +21.16%
Los Angeles-Long Beach +18.81%
New York-Newark +17.72%
Chicago-Naperville +14.88%
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington +14.73%
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden +14.13%
Houston-The Woodlands +13.82%

[TWAK]

Got any for Micropolitan Statistical Areas? I might be one of the only forumers that lives in one and it would be interesting to see who leads.

[dimondpark]

This is 10-year percent growth for MSAs with $100B+ GDP

Metro Area-----GDP 2011--GDP 2021-10 Year Growth
1 New York----------$1,312---$1,992---+51.8%
2 Los Angeles-------$742-----$1,124---+51.4%
3 Chicago -----------$542-----$764-----+40.9%
4 San Francisco-----$329----$668----+103.0%
5 Washington-------$438----$607------+38.5%
6 Dallas--------------$359----$598------+66.5%
7 Houston-----------$382-----$537-----+40.5%
8 Boston-------------$341----$531------+55.7%
9 Seattle-------------$251----$479------+90.8%
10 Philadelphia------$351----$477------+35.8%
11 Atlanta-----------$281----$473------+68.3%
12 Miami-------------$254----$417------+64.1%
13 San Jose---------$184----$410-----+122.8%
14 Phoenix-----------$185----$316------+70.8%
15 Minneapolis------$202----$296------+46.5%
16 Detroit------------$202----$283-----+40.0%
17 San Diego--------$173----$267-----+54.3%
18 Denver-----------$147----$253------+72.1%
19 Baltimore---------$158----$222-----+40.5%
20 Riverside---------$128----$213-----+66.4%
21 Charlotte---------$119----$207-----+73.9%
22 Austin-------------$95----$193----+103.1%
23 Tampa------------$117----$190-----+62.3%
24 St Louis----------$142----$187-----+27.4%
25 Portland----------$115----$186-----+61.7%
26 Cincinnati--------$111----$171-----+54.0%
27 Pittsburgh--------$121----$168-----+38.8%
28 Orlando-----------$95-----$167-----+75.7%
29 Nashville----------$88-----$163-----+85.2%
30 Indianapolis------$112---$162-----+44.6%
31 Sacramento------$100---$160----+60.0%
32 Columbus---------$95----$154-----+62.1%
33 Kansas City-------$103---$154----+49.5%
34 Cleveland---------$107---$147----+37.3%
35 San Antonio------$88-----$144-----+63.6%
36 Las Vegas---------$88-----$136-----+54.5%
37 Salt Lake City-----$66----$118-----+78.0%
38 Milwaukee---------$84----$111-----+32.1%
39 Raleigh------------$56---$108-----+92.8%
40 Virginia Beach----$83----$107----+28.9%
41 Hartford-----------$83----$107----+28.9%
42 Jacksonville-------$58----$101----+74.1%

[dimondpark]

NorCal and SoCal 10-Year Growth in billions of dollars.

Area-------GDP-2011-GDP-2021---10-Year Growth
Southern CA-------$1,176---$1,779------+$603--+51.2%
Northern CA---------$846---$1,593-------+$747--+88.2%

California-----------$2,023--$3,373-------+$1,350-+66.7%

[Crawford]

California is clearly doomed. The Bay Area, in particular, has been destroyed by illegal woke transgender homeless BLM Antifa communists from sh--hole countries.

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by Crawford

California is clearly doomed. The Bay Area, in particular, has been destroyed by illegal woke transgender homeless BLM Antifa communists from sh--hole countries.

You need to get over yourself lmao. GDP isn't everything and its quite clear California has major policy problems. In fact the GDP is indicative of its income inequality and how it pushes mid-income people out.

I realize there is no point in arguing with you but you always preempt with strawmen about peoples criticism of what goes on in California. And quite frankly is weird. It isn't a personal attack that the state and many city governments in California do stupid shit.

[cabasse]

atlanta had quite a few down years after the end of the last recession, it's kind of surprising to see that it has bounced back so strongly. 68% growth over the last 10 years is not too bad. also tampa is a sleeper, not far behind the banking capital of charlotte and ahead of some others i hadn't expected (portland, cleveland, stl, cincy)

also, for all of the jacksonville fans, it appears on the list

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by dimondpark

Top 25 Metropolitan Statistical Area(MSA) GDPs by 5-Year Percentage Growth 2017-2021:
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara +39.89%
Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown +37.24%
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue +33.20%
Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler +29.38%
San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley +28.98%
Denver-Aurora-Lakewood +26.58%
Tampa-St Petersburg-Clearwater +26.27%
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario +26.04%
Dallas-Fort Worth Arlington +24.64%
Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia +23.52%
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta +23.51%
Boston-Cambridge-Newton +22.75%
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach +22.44%
Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro +21.86%
San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad +20.31%
New York-Newark-Jersey City +17.80%
Los Angeles-Long Beach +17.70%
Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington +16.21%
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria +15.66%
St Louis +15.34%
Chicago-Naperville-Elgin +14.89%
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington +14.00%
Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land +13.60%
Baltimore-Columbia-Towson +12.28%

Looks like you missed Detroit on this one.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Obadno

You need to get over yourself lmao. GDP isn't everything and its quite clear California has major policy problems. In fact the GDP is indicative of its income inequality and how it pushes mid-income people out.

California's large GDP is indicative of California having the largest population of any state in the US.

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

California's large GDP is indicative of California having the largest population of any state in the US.

gdp in general I think as a metric has been relied upon to much in recent decades. Journalists and analysts will point to gdp in their analysis of potential wars and combat performance it’s crazy. Gdp can be just cause of population, of really expensive places like Luxembourg, or like China a bunch of money wasted on unnecessary government projects to balloon gdp numbers.

Point to Californias high gdp as some sort of counter argument to people’s complaints about California is dumb.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by Obadno

Point to Californias high gdp as some sort of counter argument to people’s complaints about California is dumb.

Really? The people who claim that California is a failed state can't be refuted by the overwhelming objective evidence that California is among the most successful geographies on the planet? Super-strong economy, low crime, high education and great healthcare outcomes? When the haters claim the economy is dying, crime is out of control, schools are in the toilet, and quality of life is doomed? It's almost like the CA haters are full of crap.

[ATXboom]

Just divide the annual GDP numbers by the corresponding population to make more broad judgements about how wealthy / prosperous on averae one place is to another... but gotta factor in a cost of living differential in the equation.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Obadno

Point to Californias high gdp as some sort of counter argument to people’s complaints about California is dumb.

A lot of the rhetoric about California is ridiculous. If any red state had the same fundamentals as California, it would be the darling child of Fox News and held up as evidence of why socialism doesn't work.

[jd3189]

I would also agree that GDP by itself is not enough. Yeah, California is prosperous on paper, but are most Californians benefiting from this wealth? Homelessness is a huge issue, housing is becoming more unaffordable( my rent in an “affordable” apartment complex in a metro area that’s known as a suburb for those priced out of LA has gone up significantly). Unless you’re upper middle class, you’re going to struggle needlessly to make ends meet without government assistance.

I don’t want to take things too off topic, but I would like to mention what I now see as a misconception many people have about California, especially from the right. There has often been talk of the state being more socialist and progressive compared to other parts of the country. It does have that in terms of policies like marijuana legalization, abortion availability, good social services, etc. But after living here for 5 years now, I realize that California is just as capitalistic as Texas, Florida, New York, etc. The wealth you see in Silicon Valley has been generated and maintained by multibillion dollar tech companies such as Google, Apple, and Facebook. Board heads of those companies overlap with the NIMBYs who prevent housing from being built in high job growth areas while not giving two shits about the homeless situation which doesn’t just affect drug addicts and the mentally ill.

Again, there is a lot to praise CA for. Great year round weather, natural beauty, diversity in culture and food, etc. But all of that stuff is hard to enjoy if you can’t even afford to live here. For me, personally, I can fight off the costs with my career. But it doesn’t have to be this way and it wasn’t in the past. Not so long ago, large parts of LA and the Bay Area were affordable for newcomers of all income levels, especially low and high middle class. Those older, smaller bungalows you see scattered throughout many of the suburbs were quaint houses for the average American.

Now, these homes are worth more than bigger McMansions elsewhere. Yeah, I get supply and demand and that home appreciate in value over time. But, personally, I wouldn’t pay that much just to roughly have the same quality of life you would have in another place. None of the benefits of California justifies paying a million dollars for a house that would go for half that amount anywhere else. Also, living in CA, my life was roughly the same as it was when I living in the South. Car centric sprawl anywhere is gonna be the same bullshit, whether with sunny 70 degree weather year round or rainy shitty days half of the year. The current housing crisis in the country really confirmed to me that I can’t participate in this market and think the way other folks think when it comes to living somewhere.

[JManc]

Originally Posted by dimondpark

This is 10-year percent growth for MSAs with $100B+ GDP

Metro Area-----GDP 2011--GDP 2021-10 Year Growth
1 New York----------$1,312---$1,992---+51.8%
2 Los Angeles-------$742-----$1,124---+51.4%
3 Chicago -----------$542-----$764-----+40.9%
4 San Francisco-----$329----$668----+103.0%
5 Washington-------$438----$607------+38.5%
6 Dallas--------------$359----$598------+66.5%
7 Houston-----------$382-----$537-----+40.5%
8 Boston-------------$341----$531------+55.7%
9 Seattle-------------$251----$479------+90.8%
10 Philadelphia------$351----$477------+35.8%
11 Atlanta-----------$281----$473------+68.3%
12 Miami-------------$254----$417------+64.1%
13 San Jose---------$184----$410-----+122.8%
14 Phoenix-----------$185----$316------+70.8%
15 Minneapolis------$202----$296------+46.5%
16 Detroit------------$202----$283-----+40.0%
17 San Diego--------$173----$267-----+54.3%
18 Denver-----------$147----$253------+72.1%
19 Baltimore---------$158----$222-----+40.5%
20 Riverside---------$128----$213-----+66.4%
21 Charlotte---------$119----$207-----+73.9%
22 Austin-------------$95----$193----+103.1%
23 Tampa------------$117----$190-----+62.3%
24 St Louis----------$142----$187-----+27.4%
25 Portland----------$115----$186-----+61.7%
26 Cincinnati--------$111----$171-----+54.0%
27 Pittsburgh--------$121----$168-----+38.8%
28 Orlando-----------$95-----$167-----+75.7%
29 Nashville----------$88-----$163-----+85.2%
30 Indianapolis------$112---$162-----+44.6%
31 Sacramento------$100---$160----+60.0%
32 Columbus---------$95----$154-----+62.1%
33 Kansas City-------$103---$154----+49.5%
34 Cleveland---------$107---$147----+37.3%
35 San Antonio------$88-----$144-----+63.6%
36 Las Vegas---------$88-----$136-----+54.5%
37 Salt Lake City-----$66----$118-----+78.0%
38 Milwaukee---------$84----$111-----+32.1%
39 Raleigh------------$56---$108-----+92.8%
40 Virginia Beach----$83----$107----+28.9%
41 Hartford-----------$83----$107----+28.9%
42 Jacksonville-------$58----$101----+74.1%

The Bay Area is in for a correction at some point. Austin too probably. That's huge spike which means a rough landing. I still think we'll all be ok.