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Old Posted Dec 8, 2019, 8:37 PM
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Asian Growth between 2013 and 2018. Im only running numbers for MSAs with Asian populations over 100k:
Are any major US cities losing Asian population?
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Are any major US cities losing Asian population?
Not Asians in general but specific groups such as Koreans in LA.
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San Francisco-San Jose: 262,392

A huge demographic shift in the inner Bay Area has likely occurred this year...

2018 SF-Oakland & SJ Urban Areas:
Total Pop: 5,370,517 Total Area: 809 sq miles.
33.6% White 1,809,153
32.2% Asian 1,732,444
22.9% Hispanic 1,230,676
5.7% Black 310,721
4.1% Two or More Races 223,825
That shows a modest growth in the White population while the other statistics from the census estimates showed a decline from 2013 to 2018.

San Francisco: -21,168
San Jose: -30,687


The Asian growth rate is remarkable considering how NIMBY the Bay Area is.
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2019, 11:54 PM
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Not Asians in general but specific groups such as Koreans in LA.
Interesting how of the major US demographic categories, there are cities that are losing whites, blacks, Hispanics as well as those that are gaining. But for Asians as a group, no city is losing them, only net gains. Not even one?

I wonder why this is -- perhaps Asians just prefer living in cities far more than small towns. Or Asian immigration (from many sources) coming in to so many cities is high and thus outweights any net outmigration or existing Asian communities leaving?

If there is regular migration or movement between cities, you'd expect some loss and some gain.
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That shows a modest growth in the White population while the other statistics from the census estimates showed a decline from 2013 to 2018.
The Bay Area is carved up into nine MSAs, not merely those two, so if SF and SJ are losing whites but the CSA is gaining, then the growth is happening in the other seven MSAs.
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India:
Dallas/Fort Worth: 80,799
San Francisco: 67,900
New York: 65,705
Chicago: 52,504
Washington DC: 52,439
Seattle: 40,968
Los Angeles: 40,680
Houston: 39,135
Atlanta: 39,008
San Jose: 35,998
Boston: 33,724
Philadelphia: 31,213
Austin: 27,281
Detroit: 24,183
Sacramento: 19,630
Charlotte: 17,647
San Diego: 15,273
Phoenix: 12,613
Denver: 12,216
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 10,859
Portland: 7,961
Las Vegas: 1,475
Riverside: 632
Didn't realize Austin had such a large Indian population.
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The fastest growing Asian groups in many U.S. cities are Filipino and Indian. Filipinos are #1 in San Diego, probably because SD is a Navy town (lots of Filipinos served on navy ships).
I just wish Filipino food was half as interesting as Indian food.i
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I just wish Filipino food was half as interesting as Indian food.i
There are certainly some... interesting... dishes. That I'll never try.
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The Bay Area is carved up into nine MSAs, not merely those two, so if SF and SJ are losing whites but the CSA is gaining, then the growth is happening in the other seven MSAs.
So that Whites growth would mostly be from the far out exurbs?
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Largest and second largest Asian groups as a percentage of Asian population for selected metros:

Boston Chinese (37%), Indian (21%)
Chicago Indian (32%), Filipino (20%)
Dallas Indian (31%), Vietnamese (18%)
Houston Indian (25%), Vietnamese (24%)
Los Angeles Chinese (25%), Filipino (21%)
New York Chinese (34%), Indian (29%)
Philadelphia Indian (30%), Chinese (23%)
San Diego Filipino (41%), Chinese (16%)
San Francisco Chinese (40%), Filipino (23%)
San Jose Chinese (26%), Indian (23%)
Seattle Chinese (21%), Filipino (18%)
Washington Indian (23%), Chinese (18%)
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There are certainly some... interesting... dishes. That I'll never try.
Yeah, Filipino food sucks. It's weird, because I like literally all other Southeast Asian food. But it's the Philippines took all the worst aspects of Spanish food (as opposed to Latin America, which mostly took the best aspects) and then threw out any understanding of how to use spices other than garlic and black pepper. Lots of salt and vinegar too.

I've heard that the regional cuisine from some of the southern islands (Mindanao, etc) is more akin to the rest of Southeast Asia, and less bland/continental.
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There are certainly some... interesting... dishes. That I'll never try.
I've had alot of Filipino coworkers, so some of their food is good.
Not as interesting or good as Mexican, Vietnamese, Indian, Thai, Mediterrean, Chinese, Japanese, Korean etc.

I'm sure it beats some European cusines though.
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The Asian growth rate is remarkable considering how NIMBY the Bay Area is.
I don't understand your point. The Bay Area may be "NIMBY" but it isn't racist. Asians are a dominant cultural group and no one is trying to block their growth. On the other hand, Asian homeowners are as NIMBY as anyone. Two of the most solidly NIMBY areas--in the genuine sense--of San Francisco are the bastions of Asian single family home ownership in the Richmond and Sunset Districts. While the city IS building some new residential buildings on the east side (downtown and historic neighborhoods), almost nothing is getting built on the West Side in these Asian areas.
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Largest and second largest Asian groups as a percentage of Asian population for selected metros:

Boston Chinese (37%), Indian (21%)
Chicago Indian (32%), Filipino (20%)
Dallas Indian (31%), Vietnamese (18%)
Houston Indian (25%), Vietnamese (24%)
Los Angeles Chinese (25%), Filipino (21%)
New York Chinese (34%), Indian (29%)
Philadelphia Indian (30%), Chinese (23%)
San Diego Filipino (41%), Chinese (16%)
San Francisco Chinese (40%), Filipino (23%)
San Jose Chinese (26%), Indian (23%)
Seattle Chinese (21%), Filipino (18%)
Washington Indian (23%), Chinese (18%)
C'mon now... You can't leave out Atlanta when the metro is in the top ten for growth between 2013-2018 in all sub-groups of Asian...

Can I get an update? Thx
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Index of Dissimilarity between NHWs and Asian groups (2010):


New York MSA

Chinese .598
Indian .559
Filipino .475
Japanese .544
Korean .577
Vietnamese .535

Los Angeles MSA

Chinese .597
Indian .412
Filipino .451
Japanese .381
Korean .554
Vietnamese .669

San Francisco MSA

Chinese .494
Indian .528
Filipino .514
Japanese .25
Korean .364
Vietnamese .537

https://s4.ad.brown.edu/Projects/Div...b/Default.aspx
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C'mon now... You can't leave out Atlanta when the metro is in the top ten for growth between 2013-2018 in all sub-groups of Asian...

Can I get an update? Thx
Indians (112,410, 35%) are the largest Asian group by far. Chinese (44,848) come in second but virtually tied with Vietnamese (44,548) and Koreans (44,200) - each around 14% of the Asian population.
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I don't understand your point. The Bay Area may be "NIMBY" but it isn't racist. Asians are a dominant cultural group and no one is trying to block their growth. On the other hand, Asian homeowners are as NIMBY as anyone. Two of the most solidly NIMBY areas--in the genuine sense--of San Francisco are the bastions of Asian single family home ownership in the Richmond and Sunset Districts. While the city IS building some new residential buildings on the east side (downtown and historic neighborhoods), almost nothing is getting built on the West Side in these Asian areas.
In general if there is large scale growth of one demographic it either means there is a massive increase in new housing or one group is expanding into another area as the other group declines. Examples include White Flight and gentrification. It would be interesting to see what areas in particular have seen the most dramatic increase in the Asian population. Whether it's new construction or expanding into other communities.
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Indians (112,410, 35%) are the largest Asian group by far. Chinese (44,848) come in second but virtually tied with Vietnamese (44,548) and Koreans (44,200) - each around 14% of the Asian population.
Impressive...

When I moved to Atlanta in the late 90's, the metro area was largely African-American and Caucasians, with a smattering of Mexicans (who largely worked in the poultry, agricultural and landscaping businesses). There were Asians (mostly non-Indians in the northern suburbs of DeKalb and Gwinnett counties).

Now in 2020 Atlanta has attracted an influx of nationalities with the metro fast approaching minority-majority status.

I'm willing to bet the Atlanta metro will boast the largest concentration of African-Americans in the nation once the 2020 census is complete, besting NYC's metro, which is 3 times the size of Atlanta.
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Yeah, Filipino food sucks. It's weird, because I like literally all other Southeast Asian food. But it's the Philippines took all the worst aspects of Spanish food (as opposed to Latin America, which mostly took the best aspects) and then threw out any understanding of how to use spices other than garlic and black pepper. Lots of salt and vinegar too.

I've heard that the regional cuisine from some of the southern islands (Mindanao, etc) is more akin to the rest of Southeast Asia, and less bland/continental.
Colonialism did great for Vietnamese cuisine. But Filipino food would have been much better off without the Spanish/American influence. Filipino sweet spaghetti with cut hot dogs is something that will probably never trend among foodies in my lifetime.
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Index of Dissimilarity between NHWs and Asian groups (2010):


New York MSA

Chinese .598
Indian .559
Filipino .475
Japanese .544
Korean .577
Vietnamese .535

Los Angeles MSA

Chinese .597
Indian .412
Filipino .451
Japanese .381
Korean .554
Vietnamese .669

San Francisco MSA

Chinese .494
Indian .528
Filipino .514
Japanese .25
Korean .364
Vietnamese .537

https://s4.ad.brown.edu/Projects/Div...b/Default.aspx
Interesting to see these numbers broken down by Asian group. Chinese Americans are about as segregated as Hispanics in these three cities.
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