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Old Posted Jan 13, 2020, 6:57 PM
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Interesting to see these numbers broken down by Asian group. Chinese Americans are about as segregated as Hispanics in these three cities.
It could be that Chinese and Indians are more demographically concentrated due to working in tech while other groups are spread out. I was talking to a friend who lives in the Bay Area and he said Filipinos are the most integrated with Whites and Hispanics while Indians tend to be very clannish and mostly keep to themselves. Also China and India are dominant among recent immigrants while some of the other groups have slowed down in immigration.
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Except the Bay Area Chinese are less segregated than in New York and L.A.
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One thing I've regularly wondered about -- why is the US so good at resettling refugees in rural/small town areas, compared to Canada . . . . the US seems to have more mobility among its domestic-born population than Canada (more people move and work between states than between provinces) . . . .
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Manufacturers are paying relocation costs and bonuses to move new hires across the country at a time of record-low unemployment and intense competition for skilled workers.

Half a million U.S. factory jobs are unfilled, the most in nearly two decades, and the unemployment rate is hovering at a 50-year low, the Labor Department said Friday. At the same time, Americans are moving around the country at the lowest rate in at least 70 years.

To entice workers to move, manufacturers are raising wages, offering signing bonuses and covering relocation costs, including for some hourly positions . . . .
https://www.wsj.com/articles/manufac...s&page=1&pos=3
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2020, 12:36 AM
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Except the Bay Area Chinese are less segregated than in New York and L.A.
Within San Francisco, I see almost no racial segregation. What you do see is economic segregation and some "sexual preference" segregation: There are definitely very high income neighborhoods that tend to be practically all white ("billionaire's row"). But San Francisco Chinese tend to be either recently arrived and therefore fairly low income--and living in Chinatown--or middle income, often small business owners or professionals. These live in almost every neighborhood except those tip top most expensive ones. The single family home 'hoods in western SF--the Sunset and Richmond--that once were mostly white and now heavily Chinese.


https://www.businessinsider.com/maps...asian-people-6

The central areas that are relatively white are the well-known gay and liberal hoods like the Castro, Haight-Ashbury and so forth. The other relatively white enclave is those upper income zones I mentioned: Pacific Heights/Cow Hollow/Marina. Some of the Asian avoidance of the central zone has to do with the type of housing there: Lots of Victorian homes divided into flats most suitable for the childless or groups of roommates. Asians in the city often have families with kids (white people with kids usually move to the suburbs).
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The Bay Area suburbs are fairly segregated. You can go from Cupertino which is basically all Asian to Los Gatos which is almost all Whites. Same from San Ramon(Asian) to neighboring Danville(White).
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It's possible that remote work in tech could have an impact on geographic distributions of Asians.(ex. increase in Austin)
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Austin’s Asian community outnumbers Black residents for first time, census data show:

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200...nsus-data-show
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Austin’s Asian community outnumbers Black residents for first time, census data show:

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200...nsus-data-show
So many Asians with tech/engineering/programming backgrounds, so it's not surprising.
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So many Asians with tech/engineering/programming backgrounds, so it's not surprising.
Here's the article. I posted it in another thread before seeing this one, which is a better fit.

I think most of the Asian population here is actually Indian rather than Chinese or Japanese and other far eastern nations. Southwest Austin, especially, has a large Indian/American population.

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200...nsus-data-show
Austin’s Asian community outnumbers Black residents for first time, Census data show

By Philip Jankowski
Posted Sep 17, 2020 at 4:18 AM
Updated Sep 17, 2020 at 9:14 AM

For the first time in the history of Austin, Asian American residents now outnumber Black people in the city, according to the latest information from the U.S. Census Bureau.

The data from the bureau's 2019 American Community Survey show that Austin is now home to 80,117 Asian people, compared to 76,480 Black residents. Austin's Asian community is now the second-largest in the state behind only Houston, a city more than twice the size of Texas' capital.

The American Community Survey population estimates are based on data collected before the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic.

The latest numbers show an abrupt about-face in the growth of Black residents living in Austin. From 2010 to 2018, the number of Black residents grew 29% from 63,504 residents to 82,148, outpacing the city's overall growth in population over that same period, along with increases in Latino and white segments of the population. The 2019 numbers show a sudden decrease of nearly 5,700 Black residents.
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Old Posted Sep 21, 2020, 4:39 PM
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So many Asians with tech/engineering/programming backgrounds, so it's not surprising.

Austin's long been established as an up and coming tech hub. Dallas has a much larger South Asian, but less East Asian population in Texas.

It would be interesting to see if decentralization of tech hubs and remote work could have an impact.

The stereotype is that it's mostly White techies leaving California for Denver, Boise, and Austin ect.
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For the Bay Area Asians are rapidly growing with Latinos declining but this is prior to the remote work exodus:

"Comparing the newly released 2019 Census Household Numbers vs 2017 Census on:
Race of households in the 5-county Bay Area.

White-only Households Downwards 19,200
Black-only Households Upwards 1,300
Latino-only Households Downwards5,700
Asian-only Households Upwards 29,600
Multiracial Households: Downwards 4,800"
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^It's been the opposite in Honolulu -- the Asian population has been stable with a slight decline recently while the Hispanic/Latino population is rapidly growing, in fact it's been the fastest growing in terms of raw numbers than any other ethnic group in the state since the last Census and are now the 3rd largest ethnic group surpassing Pacific Islanders.
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I don't see the Bay Area Asian population declining, at least not for pandemic-related reasons.

Was on a work conference call with a demographer earlier this week, and he compared pandemic homes sales/moving truck data, trying to localize changes, using NY, Chicago and Bay Area metros. There appears to be zero change in the San Jose metro, particularly in the Uber-techy Asian areas like Cupertino and Sunnyvale.

Of course we only have a few months of data, but the idea that people will be trading in their absurdly overvalued $2 million Cupertino ranches to work remotely somewhere cheaper doesn't appear to be supported by anything right now. In fact, the only Bay Area county that appeared to show slightly different pandemic-era migration patterns was SF, and even there, the outmigration was pretty modest and very localized to a few downtown neighborhoods.

In the NY and Chicago areas, the suburbs performed better than the city centers during the pandemic, but the difference was pretty modest. In NY metro, Kings (Brooklyn) was actually the highest performing county, though NY County (Manhattan) was the lowest performing county. In Chicago, Lake County was the highest performing county, and I think the lowest performing was some western exurban sprawl county.
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In the NY and Chicago areas, the suburbs performed better than the city centers during the pandemic, but the difference was pretty modest. In NY metro, Kings (Brooklyn) was actually the highest performing county, though NY County (Manhattan) was the lowest performing county. In Chicago, Lake County was the highest performing county, and I think the lowest performing was some western exurban sprawl county.
This validates some anecdotal observations I had about Brooklyn. Through the summer it seemed much closer to normal than Manhattan. But, I am starting to notice a lot of rental vacancies in the buildings around me. As of July or August, this was an area that still had rental price increases. I doubt that's the case anymore, though.
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It seems to me that there is a subset of people that live to exaggerate the decline of our major cities for any reason. Have some people moved out of NYC, LA, SF, etc? Of course. More than normally would? Yes.. But there is no mass exodus. As a small example...my building in the heart of downtown LA had 30 or 40 move outs in the first few months after the pandemic started... All have been filled
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I don't see the Bay Area Asian population declining, at least not for pandemic-related reasons.

Was on a work conference call with a demographer earlier this week, and he compared pandemic homes sales/moving truck data, trying to localize changes, using NY, Chicago and Bay Area metros. There appears to be zero change in the San Jose metro, particularly in the Uber-techy Asian areas like Cupertino and Sunnyvale.

Of course we only have a few months of data, but the idea that people will be trading in their absurdly overvalued $2 million Cupertino ranches to work remotely somewhere cheaper doesn't appear to be supported by anything right now. In fact, the only Bay Area county that appeared to show slightly different pandemic-era migration patterns was SF, and even there, the outmigration was pretty modest and very localized to a few downtown neighborhoods.

In the NY and Chicago areas, the suburbs performed better than the city centers during the pandemic, but the difference was pretty modest. In NY metro, Kings (Brooklyn) was actually the highest performing county, though NY County (Manhattan) was the lowest performing county. In Chicago, Lake County was the highest performing county, and I think the lowest performing was some western exurban sprawl county.
This makes sense. I just don't see the same dramatic growth in the Asian population this decade that we saw in in the 2010s.

Nationally we could see a slow down in immigration and more growth will likely shift to cities like Atlanta, Austin, and Dallas.
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US Counties Ranked By South Asian Languages:

Hindi:

Santa Clara County [CA] 31,006
Alameda County [CA] 26,535
Los Angeles County [CA] 21,827
Middlesex County [NJ] 20,622
Cook County [IL] 20,180
Queens County [NY] 19,441
Harris County [TX] 15,148
Hudson County [NJ] 13,378
Sacramento County [CA] 13,006
King County [WA] 12,043
Fairfax County [VA] 11,776
Orange County [CA] 10,610
Middlesex County [MA] 9,947
Nassau County [NY] 9,483
Dallas County [TX] 8,458
Fort Bend County [TX] 7,840
New York County [NY] 7,643
Montgomery County [MD] 7,551
Collin County [TX] 7,234
Maricopa County [AZ] 7,121
DuPage County [IL] 6,848
Oakland County [MI] 6,693
San Diego County [CA] 6,425
Fulton County [GA] 6,260
San Mateo County [CA] 6,216
Bergen County [NJ] 5,889
Contra Costa County [CA] 5,650
Loudoun County [VA] 5,090
Somerset County [NJ]4,684


Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Hindi.html


Gujarati:

Middlesex County [NJ] 26,601
Cook County [IL] 23,250
DuPage County [IL] 10,444
Los Angeles County [CA] 9,568
Hudson County [NJ] 9,012
Orange County [CA] 7,366
Bergen County [NJ] 7,052
Harris County [TX] 6,408
Alameda County [CA] 6,288
Santa Clara County [CA] 6,260
Queens County [NY] 5,821
Fort Bend County [TX] 5,720
Morris County [NJ] 5,562
Middlesex County [MA] 4,852
Somerset County [NJ] 4,644
Passaic County [NJ] 4,621
Gwinnett County [GA] 4,286
Nassau County [NY] 4,200
Bucks County [PA] 4,054
Collin County [TX] 3,564
Dallas County [TX] 3,540

Source:https://namecensus.com/languages/Gujarati.html

Urdu:

Cook County [IL] 22,583
Queens County [NY] 19,055
Harris County [TX] 17,593
Kings County [NY] 17,425
Fairfax County [VA] 12,231
Fort Bend County [TX] 12,002
DuPage County [IL] 9,701
Nassau County [NY] 9,298
Los Angeles County [CA] 8,717
Middlesex County [NJ] 8,372
Broward County [FL] 6,366
Orange County [CA] 6,064
Suffolk County [NY] 6,040
Santa Clara County [CA] 5,687

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Urdu.html
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Bengali:

Queens County [NY] 50,270
Kings County [NY] 17,465
Bronx County [NY] 12,795
Los Angeles County [CA] 9,465
Wayne County [MI] 8,405
Fairfax County [VA] 4,410
Montgomery County [MD] 4,390
New York County [NY] 4,105
Passaic County [NJ] 4,060
Santa Clara County [CA] 3,740
Cook County [IL] 3,545
Harris County [TX] 3,255
Dallas County [TX] 3,095

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Bengali.html

Punjabi:

Queens County [NY] 22,860
Santa Clara County [CA] 12,105
Sacramento County [CA] 11,675
Fresno County [CA] 11,620
Alameda County [CA] 11,255
King County [WA] 9,165
San Joaquin County [CA] 8,820
Los Angeles County [CA] 8,640
Kern County [CA] 6,340
Contra Costa County [CA] 5,660
Stanislaus County [CA] 4,625
Middlesex County [NJ] 4,620
Riverside County [CA] 4,005
Nassau County [NY] 3,980
Fairfax County [VA] 3,965
Orange County [CA] 3,605
Cook County [IL] 2,525
Solano County [CA] 2,270

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Panjabi.html

Marathi:

Santa Clara County [CA] 5,665
Middlesex County [NJ] 4,005
Alameda County [CA] 2,345
King County [WA] 1,885
Middlesex County [MA] 1,845
Cook County [IL] 1,770
Los Angeles County [CA] 1,505
Harris County [TX] 1,430
Orange County [CA] 1,390
Oakland County [MI] 1,145

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Marathi.html
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Bihari:

Palm Beach County [FL] 160
Duval County [FL] 55
Maricopa County [AZ] 45

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Bihari.html

Kashmiri:

Nassau County [NY] 140
Los Angeles County [CA] 115
Montgomery County [MD] 115
Burlington County [NJ] 115
Bergen County [NJ] 70
Cook County [IL] 65
Prince William County [VA] 65
Alameda County [CA] 55 57
Orange County [CA] 55 77
Loudoun County [VA] 30 37
Queens County [NY] 10

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Kashmiri.html

Nepali:

Queens County [NY] 4,650
Harris County [TX] 3,125
Fairfax County [VA] 2,825
Dallas County [TX] 2,675
Tarrant County [TX] 2,490
DeKalb County [GA] 2,430
Montgomery County [MD] 2,120
Middlesex County [MA] 2,040
King County [WA] 1,945
Salt Lake County [UT] 1,815
Los Angeles County [CA] 1,770
Cook County [IL] 1,580
Alameda County [CA] 1,470

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Nepali.html

Sindhi:

Middlesex County [NJ] 575
Nassau County [NY] 370
Queens County [NY] 335
San Francisco County [CA] 300
New Castle County [DE] 280
Orange County [CA] 270

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Sindhi.html

Sinhalese:

Los Angeles County [CA] 4,015
Montgomery County [MD] 1,290
Orange County [CA] 1,065
Richmond County [NY] 985
Harris County [TX] 955
Queens County [NY] 940
Fairfax County [VA] 440
Clark County [NV] 435
San Diego County [CA] 425
Middlesex County [NJ] 360

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Sinhalese.html
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Telegu:

Santa Clara County [CA] 14,015
Middlesex County [NJ] 12,520
Alameda County [CA] 6,690
Fairfax County [VA] 6,210
Dallas County [TX] 5,400
King County [WA] 5,380
Cook County [IL] 5,275
Los Angeles County [CA] 4,620
Oakland County [MI] 4,495
Loudoun County [VA] 4,420
Maricopa County [AZ] 4,385
Collin County [TX] 3,945
Harris County [TX] 3,615
Middlesex County [MA] 3,075
San Diego County [CA] 2,820
Fulton County [GA] 2,770
DuPage County [IL] 2,755

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Telugu.html

Malayalam:

Cook County [IL] 8,530
Nassau County [NY] 6,990
Fort Bend County [TX] 6,740
Dallas County [TX] 6,720
Philadelphia County [PA] 6,050
Queens County [NY] 4,025
Westchester County [NY] 3,960
Harris County [TX] 3,545
Santa Clara County [CA] 2,970
Rockland County [NY] 2,690
Los Angeles County [CA] 2,635
DuPage County [IL] 2,580

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Malayalam.html

Tamil:

Santa Clara County [CA] 15,540
Middlesex County [NJ] 8,275
Alameda County [CA] 6,800
King County [WA] 5,020
Los Angeles County [CA] 4,875
Cook County [IL] 4,220
Middlesex County [MA] 3,820
Oakland County [MI] 3,225
Collin County [TX] 3,205
Fairfax County [VA] 3,140
Maricopa County [AZ] 3,060
Harris County [TX] 2,830
Orange County [CA] 2,760
Fulton County [GA] 2,490
Montgomery County [MD] 2,490
Dallas County [TX] 2,430
Contra Costa County [CA] 2,235
Wake County [NC] 2,200

Source: https://namecensus.com/languages/Tamil.html
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