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Originally Posted by fhammon

That photo of the wooden architecture on Bronson and Melrose reminded me of this existent relic apparently built in 1912 according to Berkshire Hathaway.

The assessor's office has a built date of 1912.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by JScott

Anyone else feeling like this thread has been hijacked?

IMHO, there's long been an overabundance of transportation-themed posts here (remember, Skyscraperpage.com is a site about buildings), but lately, it's really reached the saturation point.

My opinion is that the hijacking, sidebars, veering, off-ramps, storyboarding or whatever terms one might use all help in visualizing the context of the buildings posted about.

I may not be as interested in one sidebar as I am in another that people post about, but the same can be said of the buildings and/or their locations that people post about.

This thread continually amazes me in how many things I am interested in or have become interested in.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by fhammon

That photo of the wooden architecture on Bronson and Melrose reminded me of this existent relic apparently built in 1912 according to Berkshire Hathaway.

That photo reminded me of this building, too fhammon. We drove by that market recently and you can't help but notice it and I was wondering how old it was. Now I know, 102 years!

[ConstructDTLA]

8th & Broadway 1931 VS 2014:

[fhammon]

I just came across this photo of Aliso St. again (the one missing here). It's zoomable at the link page. Lot's of goodies to see.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/1505



..and a nice article here:


Aliso Street, Before It Became the 101 Freeway

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

Panoramic view of Los Angeles looking southwest on Aliso St. from the brewery, February 1899

Panoramic view of Los Angeles looking southwest on Aliso St. from the brewery (Maier Brewing Co.?), February 1899 Photograph of a panoramic view of Los Angeles looking southwest on Aliso Street from the brewery (Maier Brewing Co.?), February 1899. Residential buildings cover a majority of the area in the foreground. Horse-drawn carriages are parked along the curb of the street at right. Clusters of large buildings of the city can be seen in the extreme background. Dark clouds loom over the area to the right. Previous record stated: "location of the brewery is now the location of Union Station".
CHS-5785 -- Legible signs include: "H.W. Stoll & Co., Los Angeles sodaworks, bottles of [...] and W[...]lemp's St. Louis[...], [...]ager beer", "Duke Orlando cigars", "[furnish]ed rooms", "M.A. Newmark & Co.", "El Palencia cigars", "[...] Fox's health food", "El Merito cigars", "General Author cigar".
CHS-5784 -- Legible signs include: "[wat]er lifter, P.N. Odonnels, iron and brass foundry, machine shop, 1869", "coffees, teas, spices", "[...] carriage [...]", "Arcadia", "hotel [...]", "Rock Island Plows, Milwaukee mowers, farm wagons", "Percheron stallion kept here", "wholesale, retail, wood, coal, hay & grain, charcoal & kindling, tel. Main 1298", "Aliso Street, board, feed & sale stable, horses boarded by the day, week or month, stalls for rent", "southern California", "bakery", "F.W. Braun".

USCdigital archive/Title Insurance and Trust / C.C. Pierce Photography Collection, 1860-1960

This photo goes well with it. You can see the brewery quite well. Sorry for re-posting. Thanks, Michael and JScott.



http://losangelespast.blogspot.com/2...1_archive.html

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by fhammon

I just came across this photo of Aliso St. again (the one missing here). It's zoomable at the link page. Lot's of goodies to see.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/1505



..and a nice article here:


Aliso Street, Before It Became the 101 Freeway
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Its sad that most of the original topography of Los Angeles was removed and made into a more or less flatland. It really was not necessary if had they done a bit of creative thinking.

[haiku99]

Originally Posted by FredH

Guy Bryan Tire Store at Venice Boulevard and South Vermont - 1933

snip...

I don't see any area in this large store where the tires are actually installed on the customer's vehicles.
Back then, did people buy tires at one location and have them put on somewhere else?

I'd guess that back in the day some people mounted their own tires, not all that difficult for tires of that (vintage) size with some experience...still common for similarly sized motorcycle tires these days (and do that myself)

[fhammon]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Its sad that most of the original topography of Los Angeles was removed and made into a more or less flatland. It really was not necessary if had they done a bit of creative thinking.

Whenever I visit the Plaza area I think the same thing. Something BIG is especially missing from Fort Hill.... like most of Fort Hill!
... and Pound Cake.
Where did they take it?
I get that it's considered progress and land utilization etc. I just personally don't happen to like it. That's all.
I'd prefer that people and city planers had more respect for history and historical places but I also understand and there are limits, otherwise it gets ridiculous.
Whatever gets built in it's place will sometime in the future become "historical" in it's own right. That's just the way things. I'd prefer to see more compromise.
I've noticed the same strain in Europe, London in particular. The classic London of "Oliver Twist" or "Sherlock Holmes" which wasn't destroyed in the war is slowly but steadily dissolving and giving way to new (and boring) development.

[jg6544]

Originally Posted by DTLAdenizen

8th & Broadway 1931 VS 2014:

Most striking difference is how few people there are on the street in the 2014 shot. Unless it was taken on a Sunday, it really reflects how downtown declined.

[Beaudry]

Gentlemen (and ladies),

I've a bit of a mystery and I turn to you because you are the Best and Brightest of our generation!

So here's an RPPC that fell in my lap, scrawled on the back is "This picture is where we worked on South Hope St. in Los Angeles Cal."



I've cruised around some aerials and toodled down some Hope St shots in the usual collections to no avail. Anybody recognize this girl?

[Lorendoc]

Originally Posted by Beaudry

Gentlemen (and ladies),

I've a bit of a mystery and I turn to you because you are the Best and Brightest of our generation!

So here's an RPPC that fell in my lap, scrawled on the back is "This picture is where we worked on South Hope St. in Los Angeles Cal."



I've cruised around some aerials and toodled down some Hope St shots in the usual collections to no avail. Anybody recognize this girl?

The proximity of the freeway resulted in the destruction of many blocks of the southern part of S. Hope Street. On my lunch break, I took the Googlemobile out for a spin.

I will stick my neck out and say Beaudry's apartment might have been on Hope between Pico and Venice. There were (are) a number of apartments with very similar design elements along that stretch. The oldest survivors date from about 1910.

For example, the Hubbard Arms Apartments (1912), 1355 S. Hope, looks like it might have been done by the same builders as Beaudry's building. Note the spacing of the windows on the side of the structure, and the little step-offs on the roof lines.


GSV

From across the street, another building with a similar cornice as the original building, and similar window spacing and big blank walls on the side near the street.



*back to work* :[

[ethereal_reality]

Good eye Lorendoc. There are distinct similarities.




Before you roll your eyes and say "Not Angels Flight again."

Even if the following three slides look similar, there are obviously tiny differences.
In subtle ways...like how the cars are parked...the men milling about along the incline track.......flyers under windshield wipers...etc.

These three slides were labeled 1970 by the seller on ebay. wiki says the rail-line ceased operating in 1969, so perhaps the date is slightly off.


ebay





ebay




ebay
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Thanks for checking on the Ambassador helipad HossC. Perhaps it was only temporary.

[ethereal_reality]

advertising glass paperweight


ebay

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[ethereal_reality]

I found this earlier in the week on ebay. The seller lists the date as 1909.

Los Angeles


I'm not 100% sure where we're looking, so I'll leave it to the pros.
(Here's a vague guess....is it the area of 6th Street looking west?)

Even though I found this on ebay, there's always the possibility it's a LAPL photograph...or from the UCLA archives.
..or maybe we've even seen this view before on NLA. It's hard to check without solid information.

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[ethereal_reality]

Company picnic!


ebay
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tag words:

Machinery Mfg. Company Employees
3rd Annual Picnic
Elysian Park
July 18, 1943
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[ethereal_reality]

ebay
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The Macleod Seed and Produce Co.
245 South Main St.
Los Angeles, Cal.

[Noircitydame]

Originally Posted by haiku99

I'd guess that back in the day some people mounted their own tires, not all that difficult for tires of that (vintage) size with some experience...still common for similarly sized motorcycle tires these days (and do that myself)

Funny this came up... just today we* had to change the tire on my 1930 Ford Model A town sedan we bought the tube, brought it home and did the work in the home garage... Not counting having to drive way out to the one store in town that still sells the right tube, it took about 15 minutes.

*I say "we" but my role was more or less supervisory. It's a 1-person job.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Noircitydame

Funny this came up... just today we* had to change the tire on my 1930 Ford Model A town sedan we bought the tube, brought it home and did the work in the home garage... Not counting having to drive way out to the one store in town that still sells the right tube, it took about 15 minutes.

*I say "we" but my role was more or less supervisory. It's a 1-person job.

Tire changing circa 1935......


personal CD

[ethereal_reality]

California archaeologists uncover 91 year old giant sphinx movie prop near Guadalupe CA.



1923

http://naturetime.wordpress.com/2012...-commandments/



-buried under the dunes for almost a century.


google_earth


1923

http://www.livescience.com/48329-pho...-sphinxes.html





The sphinx was one of 21 that lined the path to the Pharaoh's City in the 1923 Cecil B. DeMille silent movie.


http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/201...old-movie-prop



unearthed!


-for more details go here:
http://www.livescience.com/48329-pho...-sphinxes.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/201...old-movie-prop

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[MartinTurnbull]

Until I came across this menu cover, I didn't know Mike Lyman had a venue called Flight Deck at Los Angeles International Airport (1960)