End or rebirth for NYC?

[manchester united]

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/nyc-is...ames-altucher/

The last year I visited NYC and it was absolutely a fantastic experience. Maybe the only negative aspect was the too much wealth, above all in Manhattan. In fact I hoped to see more delis and less banks. Could be this the chance to see in the next future less opulence and more street life also in Midtown Manhattan?

[JManc]

Originally Posted by manchester united

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/nyc-is...ames-altucher/

The last year I visited NYC and it was absolutely a fantastic experience. Maybe the only negative aspect was the too much wealth, above all in Manhattan. In fact I hoped to see more delis and less banks. Could be this the chance to see in the next future less opulence and more street life also in Midtown Manhattan?

Go to the outer boroughs or even Washington heights area to the north in Manhattan and you'll still see the delis and mom/ pops everywhere. Manhattan especially Midtown is a huge concentration of wealth and probably always be this way.

[Pedestrian]

Originally Posted by JManc

Go to the outer boroughs or even Washington heights area to the north in Manhattan and you'll still see the delis and mom/ pops everywhere. Manhattan especially Midtown is a huge concentration of wealth and probably always be this way.

When normal times return and riding is safe, buy a MetroCard for 3 or 7 days and ride way out into the outer buroughs. There are books (I have one called Nosh New York) that describe ethnic neighborhoods and the food sources therein from restaurants to bodegas. You can ride the subway directly to these areas.

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by manchester united

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/nyc-is...ames-altucher/

The last year I visited NYC and it was absolutely a fantastic experience. Maybe the only negative aspect was the too much wealth, above all in Manhattan. In fact I hoped to see more delis and less banks. Could be this the chance to see in the next future less opulence and more street life also in Midtown Manhattan?

No NYC will not die, COVID pushed lots of people and businesses to make decisions that would have been made over the next 10 years all done in 1 year.

SO the impact on the city will be rough, many people who were going to retire and move are doing so now, many people who wanted to relocate are going to relocate now, lots of small businesses will not survive and the owners may leave for greener pastures.

Lots and LOTS of Financial and tech jobs will be moved or fully remote. These would have already happened as well and were mostly being held to Manhattan with the momentum of history alone.

Is New York about to enter a downward death spiral of crime and collapse like in the 1970's? No I dont think so but the next couple of years will seem like a mini version of that simply do to large amounts of vacancy and a rapid decline in population.

After Katrina New Orleans lost something like 20% of its population, I dont think it will be that bad in NYC but yes there will be a major impact, but beyond the next couple of years the city will come back, its still the world financial Capitol, its still a primary node of immigration, business, transportation and culture/tourism

[chris08876]

NYC will bounce back.

They said the same rubbish after 9/11.

The city will bounce back! Only stronger and more wiser! As the superior American City and Gold standard, it will continue to thrive.

As with most cities, adaptation and evolution occurs, just like with virus's. Right now, are troubling times, with Covid, our POS mayor, and general shenanigans occurring with folks out on the street... but the city has been through a lot, and bounced back.

With street life, it will return to its full glory, which is madness and people gridlock. Just give it time. Once the tourism numbers bounce back, and a bulk of the office workers or employer base return to normal operations in structures, as opposed to remote working... it will continue to be a people gridlocked, traffic chock filled city. No worries on that end. Enjoy it while it lasts, because the gridlock will commence in due time.

There is a sort of gravitational effect that the city has on folks that no other place in the U.S. can replicate, so the demand will continue to be strong. One of the inhibiting factors to this is price and cost of living, but rest assured, if the prices were cheap, the city would be much more crowded.

[streetscaper]

Do we really need yet another thread of basically the same topic?

Did you even bother to look at the other threads on this page before making this one?

[mrnyc]

we had this very conversation after ford told the city to drop dead and after 9/11.

[dc_denizen]

buy brownstones from this guy and his ilk!

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by dc_denizen

buy brownstones from this guy and his ilk!

Credit: imdb

[tdawg]

I worry a bit about what’s happening in Astoria. Our local supermarkets (a Key Food and Best Market) have closed or are closing, to be replaced by a Lidl and a Target. Many storefronts near the Ditmars stop remain vacant due to high rents. One change post pandemic that I do like is the outdoor dining platforms that restaurants and bars have added. It’s meant less car traffic and given the area a bit of a European feel. Not sure how Winter will change that though.

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by manchester united

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/nyc-is...ames-altucher/

The last year I visited NYC and it was absolutely a fantastic experience. Maybe the only negative aspect was the too much wealth, above all in Manhattan. In fact I hoped to see more delis and less banks. Could be this the chance to see in the next future less opulence and more street life also in Midtown Manhattan?

If covid goes away (as all past such episodes have done) or a good vaccine and treatments are found, NYC will revive of course. The manic construction and price rises before covid appeared may be damped down a bit. There will always be a need for a places like NYC, L.A., Chicago, Miami, Vegas, San Fran. You are never bored and people hate boredom. After the 1918/19 pandemic we had a big party-the Roaring Twenties. We need a fun loving guy like Babe Ruth to show up and start the roar.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by tdawg

One change post pandemic that I do like is the outdoor dining platforms that restaurants and bars have added. It’s meant less car traffic and given the area a bit of a European feel. Not sure how Winter will change that though.

As of now this will be a seasonal thing. The season ends in October and returns in June.

[Hudson11]

definitely need some new leadership, otherwise the boarded up storefronts and restaurants are going to be here to stay, and overall quality of life is going to drop significantly. While huge corporations have been committing to the city, it's a hostile environment for smaller businesses. The budget crunch is the most immediate emergency. Public services are already being affected. "Defund the police" is a moot slogan at this point because they're going to have to make more cuts to the NYPD in addition to other city agencies.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/19/new-...-the-fall.html

New York Gov. Cuomo warns NYC restaurants may have to close again in the fall

Cuomo has recently laid the groundwork for some indoor businesses to return in the coming weeks with limited capacity, including gyms and museums, but has yet to make a decision on restaurants and bars.

The state has cracked down on many restaurants and bars for violating the governor’s orders on operating with safety precautions to prevent the spread of the virus. New York has suspended the liquor licenses of nearly 150 bars for violating the orders, according to a press release Monday.

The infection rate across New York has remained low over the last 12 consecutive days. The so-called positivity rate, or the percentage of total tests that are positive, below 1%, an indication that the virus is under control in the area.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...-says/2575941/

NYC Preparing to Lay Off ‘Hundreds' of EMTs Amid COVID Budget Crisis, Union Says

A spokesperson for the FDNY referred questions to City Hall, where a spokesperson stressed that the city "does not want these layoffs to happen, but this is the hole we are in without a stimulus or borrowing authority."

"Our EMTs and firefighters save lives every day and we are working with their unions to find personnel savings to avoid layoffs, but unfortunately all agencies will face layoffs," Press Secretary Bill Neidhardt said. "Without a stimulus or borrowing authority, EMTs and firefighters will have to find personnel savings."

https://abc7ny.com/garbage-in-nyc-ra...trash/6376252/

Increase in garbage, rat sightings hurting small businesses in NYC: Officials

According to the BID Association, Espaillat and Stringer said DSNY has cut waste basket pick-up from seven days a week to three days a week.

DSNY says cuts to their budget are coming in at more than $80 million.

[bossabreezes]

I don't think it's the ''death'' of NYC, but I do see the local government starting to drag the city down with it.

The rising crime will not magically vanish when COVID is gone, this is a different issue that if not stopped NOW, will snowball. Unfortunately leaders of the city and state do not want New York to be secure anymore. Lack of security will eventually start to kill the city, unlike COVID.

[bnk]

https://nypost.com/2020/08/21/mta-fa...mashing-spree/

(New York City) MTA faces glass shortage amid subway train window-smashing spree

New York Post ^ | August 21, 2020 | David Meyer

A spate of over 400 smashed subway windows in four months has the MTA on the verge of a glass shortage, transit officials said Friday.
“We had a reserve of glass when this wave started in May. We’ve run through the reserve,” MTA spokesman Tim Minton said of the rash of vandalism.
Since May 14, transit workers have reported 31 separate instances of broken windows on the 7 train, internal records obtained by The Post show.
Smashed windows have also turned up on the 2 and 3 trains, MTA safety exec Pat Warren said — costing the agency more than $300,000 so far.
“While there’s vandalism across the system at any given day or time, this recent rash of windows appears to be consolidated in a couple of lines,” Warren told The Post.
“With the MTA being in the financial condition it’s in, that is not a worthwhile thing for us to be putting money towards.”
Video posted from last Saturday shows cracked glass on a succession of doors and windows on a 7 train in Queens. The MTA said 39 individual windows were destroyed in the incident.
The glass-smashing has led to 61 train cancellations and over five hours in cumulative train delays, according to MTA records.
“Any train that’s broken, it has to be taken out of service,” Warren explained.
“That means that at any given time in the short term, our customers are going to be short a train, which means they’re going to have more crowded conditions.”
Officials warned more service impacts could be coming due to delays in acquiring replacement glass.


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[dc_denizen]

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[The North One]

Big media seems to be all in and doubling down on the "New York is fucked/dead/dunzo" narrative. But that's media, all they do is contort and sensationalize shit.

[EastSideHBG]

I would not compare this to 9/11, two completely different situations.

While capitalism and the free market is a great system we are witnessing the downsides and how quickly the dominoes can fall when a few pieces stop functioning and when there are no real plans in place. Cities are in for a rough ride and if this keeps dragging on it's going to take some time to bounce back and I do not think that things will look the same.

Originally Posted by chris08876

Credit: imdb

Great movie ha ha

[sentinel]

People claiming the 'end of' whatever, are really no different than stock shortsellers: They cannot see, or really don't give a fuck about the future, only to make a quick point (or a buck) for the very short-term.

[Hudson11]

Originally Posted by EastSideHBG

I would not compare this to 9/11, two completely different situations.

As crises they are comparable, and this was worse. 9/11 caused a shocking amount of death and shut downtown for a few weeks. But it also had the positive impact of establishing a sense of unity and appreciation of first responders. It had a more adverse affect on the nation than the city by itself. The double whammy of covid and George Floyd riots devastated the entire city economically and undermined faith in law enforcement. And there was more death, too, but over a few months vs in a day.
The city will bounce back, but there's likely going to be more adversity than anything we've had since the early 90s.

A picture is worth a thousand words. This is what the height of the crisis looked like in the upscale shopping districts of America's most populous city.


IMG_9456 by Dennis Fraevich, on Flickr


PBRE5774 by Dennis Fraevich, on Flickr