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Old Posted Oct 29, 2019, 10:53 PM
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I assume you also disapprove of the government losing money subsidizing fossil fuel companies?
Perhaps point to a case where this is occuring?
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Rough couple of weeks in the news for the CMHR.

Gail Asper 'very troubled' by allegations of discrimination at Canadian Museum for Human Rights

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...ions-1.5619639
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Old Posted Aug 5, 2020, 11:14 PM
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So the woke museum of select peoples human rights is now closed and huddling for damage control to address the systemic racism, homophobia and misogyny, what a shit show!
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Maybe it wasn't such a great idea after all.
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2020, 3:19 AM
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Maybe it wasn't such a great idea after all.
Like with a lot of things the intended result is far from what is actually achieved!

The whole notion of a museum for human rights was ill conceived from the get go.
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So the woke museum of select peoples human rights is now closed and huddling for damage control to address the systemic racism, homophobia and misogyny, what a shit show!
lol kinda funny when a racist pretends to care about systemic racism because it happens to suit them today.

The CMHR was built by the Harper conservatives, they appointed the board and CEO so it's not really surprising that it's founded in racism, homophobia and sexism.
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lol kinda funny when a racist pretends to care about systemic racism because it happens to suit them today.

The CMHR was built by the Harper conservatives, they appointed the board and CEO so it's not really surprising that it's founded in racism, homophobia and sexism.
As we know, the CMHR was initially conceived as a Holocaust Museum, but such a thing would not have been a likely recipient of significant amounts of government funding. So it morphed into this thing called the Canadian Human Rights Museum, based on the circa 2000 understanding of the concept, which was highly academic and rooted in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It came into being when Harper was PM but I don't think the outcome would have been much different under Martin, or Ignatieff/Dion had either of them been elected PM.

Anyway, since then, the popular conception of human rights, at least in the western world, has shifted... we have seen a lot more activism over the past few years. Not surprisingly, expectations of something calling itself a human rights museum have changed dramatically. So now we are seeing a major reckoning at the museum where it adjusts itself to meet those expectations.
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Anyway, since then, the popular conception of human rights, at least in the western world, has shifted... we have seen a lot more activism over the past few years. Not surprisingly, expectations of something calling itself a human rights museum have changed dramatically. So now we are seeing a major reckoning at the museum where it adjusts itself to meet those expectations.
Excellent point. I think it's also important to remember that the mission/message of the CMHR isn't somehow invalidated by the flaws in it's employees. If anything, it makes the message that much more important.
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lol kinda funny when a racist pretends to care about systemic racism because it happens to suit them today.

The CMHR was built by the Harper conservatives, they appointed the board and CEO so it's not really surprising that it's founded in racism, homophobia and sexism.
So you are outright calling me racist?
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So you are outright calling me racist?
That's correct, and I'm guessing you won't recognize the irony that you took delight in entertaining such accusations against the museum but get all ruffled when your own behavior gets called out.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2020, 3:00 PM
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I've noticed that CMHR now has a pretty flashy lighting system (or was it just there all along and they weren't using it?)… it lights the place up at night and flashes different colours.

It's pretty neat technologically, but I wonder if it's a bit gaudy for an institution like CMHR? It looks like something that might be better suited to a nightclub or casino.
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The CMHR screams to be lit up with all that glass, it’s a shame it’s always so dark, it looks really sharp lit up on the skyline like that.

Unfortunately it’s only temporary, the lights are on until Jan 9.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2020, 4:01 PM
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I don't mind a steady lighting scheme, but flashing lights are a bit much imo.
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I'm digging the solid color, it would be kinda slick to co-ordinate the color with the color of the WINNIPEG sign at the forks.



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Latest CMHR report finds history of sexual harassment complaints, racism towards Black men

A second report on allegations of racism and homophobia at the Canadian Museum for Human Rights in Winnipeg outlines additional sexual harassment complaints and a pattern of racism specifically against Black men.


The latest report stemming from an external review says record-keeping of such complaints was “decentralized and poor,” and raises concern that appropriate action was never taken. The report includes two more sexual harassment complaints not initially disclosed and more allegations by employees of racism.

“There is a pattern of gendered racism being perpetuated against racialized men within the Museum and against Black men in particular, taking the form of sexualizing and fetishizing of certain Black and racialized men and stereotyping Black men as ‘dangerous’ and ‘predatory,”‘ the report says.

The museum was criticized online last year by current and former employees after it posted images of a Justice for Black Lives rally. The employees said it was hypocritical to bring up the rally when museum staff faced racism at work. Some also said that LGBTQ content in the museum had been censored at the request of certain school groups.

Isha Khan, the museum’s president and CEO, said in a note to staff that change has already taken place at the museum and work to disrupt oppression continues.

“We all have a responsibility to work together to bring about meaningful change – to be patient at times and to push harder at others,” Khan wrote. Khan began a five-year term leading the museum last August after the allegations led to the resignation of former CEO John Young. She promised to create an inclusive and respectful work environment.

Winnipeg lawyer Laurelle Harris was brought in to do an external review and her initial report was released last summer. It substantiated claims by current and former employees, and found racism was pervasive and systemic at the museum.
In response, the museum developed a plan Khan said was a “blueprint for change.” There have been more than 4,000 hours of training and a new visitor code of conduct has been developed. There is also a content review of the museums exhibits.

Harris’s second report released Monday includes information from 35 interviews with current employees and has more recommendations, including the development of guidelines for investigating sexual harassment and other forms of discrimination. “If we work together and support one another, we can embrace our responsibility to share, to influence, to educate and to support the work we must all do to live our human rights every day,” Khan said.


https://globalnews.ca/news/7986787/l...rds-black-men/

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I realise that this report is slightly dated, but I would hope changes have been made at the museum.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2023, 1:46 PM
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And the joke of a museum called the CMHR continues to be a joke, what a big surprise!

Trying to encapsulate an ideal into a museum was dubious proposition from the get go!
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2023, 3:20 PM
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That report is quite something. It characterizes typical workplace squabbles as evidence of systemic racism.

And then, without any substantiation, it throws this out there:

"There is a pattern of gendered racism being perpetuated against racialized men within the Museum and against Black men in particular, taking the form of sexualizing and fetishizing of Black men and the stereotyping of Black men as “dangerous” and “predatory”."

Those are pretty serious allegations to not back up with any examples?!

I guess that's the nature of the beast with a Human Rights Museum in this day and age, though. In a place like that, some people are going to be walking around looking for supposed acts of aggression that they can become indignant about, because the system rewards that.
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The irony..
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2023, 7:20 PM
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Sounds like a toxic work environment. Pretty much any woke work place will be like that now a days. You have to walk on eggshells and be on pins and needles.

Haven't been there and have no plans on going. Maybe if it was free I would go. I like the building though, it has an interesting design.
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