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Old Posted Jun 25, 2020, 5:42 PM
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Great Project?

This is a terrible project.

Should be declined to wait for something better.

This is no different than a GHo special on steroids.

It's basically another 4th&Race.

We can do better at that location.

I have to agree with summersm on this. This is a great project. This is basically an entire empty city block we're talking about (with the exception of the beer distributor and Rose Tattoo). This is a 6 story building with retail and outdoor seating that will greatly improve the vibrancy of this corridor. Vacant lots filling in (especially with retail) is more important than anything else. Look at DC, density and vibrancy from street level is where they excel.

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Old Posted Jun 25, 2020, 7:58 PM
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Great Project?

This is a terrible project.

Should be declined to wait for something better.

This is no different than a GHo special on steroids.

It's basically another 4th&Race.

We can do better at that location.
What's wrong with it? This is a good, dense project, with ground floor retail.

This is a HUGE empty lot - it's the entire northern stretch of this block. There's plenty more room on the block for more, taller development. Hopefully this first project will jump start the redevelopment of this block that has been vacant for FAR too long.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2020, 3:06 AM
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What's wrong with it? This is a good, dense project, with ground floor retail.

This is a HUGE empty lot - it's the entire northern stretch of this block. There's plenty more room on the block for more, taller development. Hopefully this first project will jump start the redevelopment of this block that has been vacant for FAR too long.
What's wrong with it? It looks like an Extended Stay America.

It's not 25th & Tioga. It's steps from the Parkway and blocks from the Barnes.

We should insist on better.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2020, 2:41 PM
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How you view this probably just depends on your priorities. Personally think it needs a new architect.

Pros:
Good density for location
Ground floor retail
No parking

Cons:
Poor design
Breaks streetwall for ill-conceived plaza
Budget materials and lots of them
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2020, 4:17 PM
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How you view this probably just depends on your priorities. Personally think it needs a new architect.

Pros:
Good density for location
Ground floor retail
No parking

Cons:
Poor design
Breaks streetwall for ill-conceived plaza
Budget materials and lots of them
Well put. A project can definitely be great in form/function, like this one, but still poorly designed aesthetically in terms of materials/articulation/visual interest, also like this one. Details like this are critical.

I know people tire of NYC comparisons, myself included, but there are so many great examples there as to how infill projects like this can be very well-designed in form and aesthetically. Here's are a couple random example:





I, for one, would love to see a moratorium on metal cladding. It's incredibly overused and is responsible for so much lazy architecture with no soul.
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2020, 6:52 PM
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Well put. A project can definitely be great in form/function, like this one, but still poorly designed aesthetically in terms of materials/articulation/visual interest, also like this one. Details like this are critical.

I know people tire of NYC comparisons, myself included, but there are so many great examples there as to how infill projects like this can be very well-designed in form and aesthetically. Here's are a couple random example:


I, for one, would love to see a moratorium on metal cladding. It's incredibly overused and is responsible for so much lazy architecture with no soul.
1. I would have to see the ROI for each project in NYC when compared with the one in Philly. Are they getting a higher ROI for those projects and can therefore afford higher cost facade cladding?

2. What's the architectural vetting process like in NYC? Is it more strict than Philly? Also, Orens Brothers haven't been through CDR yet. Maybe CDR will rake it over the coals for the exterior cladding.

3. Let's not act like EVERY project in NYC is this attractive. There are a lot of clunkers there too. Just like not every project in Philly is going to be extremely attractive. Some are clunkers. But in a CDR docket for July filled with 8 projects, at least 5 or 6 are attractive, ones a storage unit building, one is in Tacony, and this one on Callowhill by Oren Bros checks some necessary boxes, even if it's not perfect. I would say that's pretty good to have the majority of the projects get high marks for design.

I don't see the point of making a stink about it, since it's also only taking up one parcel on a huge empty lot, will eventually have another 5 to 7 story building to the west of it, and will maybe, at some point, have one or two highrises to the East and North of it in the future if someone can build something to make the contaminated lot remediation numbers work out for those parcels. The building Orens Bros are building will eventually blend in and be forgotten about. It's not offensive to me at all.
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2020, 8:34 PM
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2020, 4:33 PM
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2020, 6:25 PM
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^^^ nice to see they're moving along with 2100 Hamilton. Should solidify this area as a dense residential and commercial corridor.

Here's some positive news from the PBJ which may give hope to those condo/apartment dwellers that will actually need to work somewhere eventually :p

Philadelphia is the top emerging startup ecosystem in the U.S., report says

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Philadelphia is the top emerging startup ecosystem in the United States, according to a new report from startup research firm Startup Genome

Mumbai, the top emerging ecosystem, scored a 10 on each of those factors, while Philadelphia scored a nine in performance, 10 in funding, eight in market reach and nine in talent.
Continued investment in those startups will only help the recovery process.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2020, 2:02 AM
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Is it time or ok to talk about the literal tent city nearby 2100 Hamilton (Von Colln Field, 22nd), I walked thru today, this isn’t a couple tents, it’s a community! The juxtaposition of this settlement against the new condo building rising which will no doubt begin in the millions and up for a unit... well, it is thought provoking.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2020, 3:20 AM
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Is it time or ok to talk about the literal tent city nearby 2100 Hamilton (Von Colln Field, 22nd), I walked thru today, this isn’t a couple tents, it’s a community! The juxtaposition of this settlement against the new condo building rising which will no doubt begin in the millions and up for a unit... well, it is thought provoking.
I call it Covid Square.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2020, 7:02 AM
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Is it time or ok to talk about the literal tent city nearby 2100 Hamilton (Von Colln Field, 22nd), I walked thru today, this isn’t a couple tents, it’s a community! The juxtaposition of this settlement against the new condo building rising which will no doubt begin in the millions and up for a unit... well, it is thought provoking.
They had a stabbing there Sunday:

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20200628.html

A man was stabbed at a homeless encampment Sunday evening on the Benjamin Franklin Parkway, leading police to an area organizers want sanctioned by the city as a “no police zone.”

The victim, described as a 26-year-old Black man, was stabbed multiple times during a fight and police were called about 5:15 p.m. It was not immediately clear if the victim was a member of the encampment.

The victim was taken to Thomas Jefferson University Hospital. His condition was unknown and no arrests had been made.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2020, 7:26 AM
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I'm curious how this will turn out in real life. This could be a really nice addition to the area.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2020, 12:20 PM
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What's wrong with it? It looks like an Extended Stay America.

It's not 25th & Tioga. It's steps from the Parkway and blocks from the Barnes.

We should insist on better.
To your defense, I just went by the new apartment building on S. Broad near Wharton and while I like the scale, it's pretty bad and does look very similar to the Callowhill rendering. Yuck.

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Old Posted Jun 30, 2020, 1:14 AM
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918 N Delaware going to design review in August. They need to break up the look of the three buildings fronting delaware.
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462 Units + Retail Proposed on Delaware Ave Near Rivers Casino



Building A: 78 residential units, 2 commercial spaces
Building B: 108 residential units, 2 commercial spaces
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Permits were pulled in March for the consolidation of 29-45 W Poplar St. and 918-980 Delaware Ave., creating a 124,937 square foot CMX-3 combined site. The owners are pursuing the construction of 6 buildings on the property consisting of 462 residential units, 6 commercial spaces, 144 car parking spots, and 162 bicycle spaces.
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2020, 3:41 PM
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Fantastic project! Let's make it happen!
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2020, 4:12 PM
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2020, 3:06 AM
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Apartment Building Out of the Ground at 24th & Wharton



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