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True but the vast majority of new constructions are glass, there are very few limestone buildings going up so I don't mind a bit of variety.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2014, 6:03 PM
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Overall pretty good!

I can't quite tell, but the facade appears to have a reddish tint to it, which would make it differ a bit in appearance from 30 Park Place and 220 CPS.

Sidenote: I thought they were much further along in the excavation process. The most recent picture makes it look like they have just been moving dirt around!
     
     
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UPDATE: After the Journal broke the news this morning, the marketing team sent out a
press release noting that sales will "commence imminently" and construction will be complete by 2017
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The release also contains a lot more information about the building:

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The full floor units consist of four bedrooms, living room, dining room, spacious kitchen and a
family room. The expansive duplex residences consists of a living room, library, dining room, eat in kitchen,
family room and 6 bedrooms.

Each residence will feature select-cut solid white oak hardwood flooring in herringbone and overlay patterns
and a variety of over 10 exquisite marble treatments. All master bathroom suites will be comprised of two full
baths complete with steam showers and soaking tub.

The building will be entirely clad in Indiana limestone articulated with French balconies and
stone detailing
evocative of the great New York apartment buildings of the 1920's and 1930's. [...]

Residents and guests will enter 520 Park Avenue through a double arched entrance with a
suspended bronze canopy, leading into a soaring lobby with 25' coffered ceilings
and an impressive
and welcoming limestone fireplace. Beyond the lobby is a vaulted salon with a fireplace at each end. The floors
and walls in the lobby are limestone with French walnut wood in the wall treatment, and satin bronze detailing.
A finely crafted Venetian plaster ceiling carries through with the wood accents as well.
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Overall, I'd call it simple and elegant. The news about the limestone facade is certainly welcome - a touch of class to an increasingly exciting skyline.
     
     
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Overall, I'd call it simple and elegant. The news about the limestone facade is certainly welcome - a touch of class to an increasingly exciting skyline.
Limestone is from the early 20th Century, and New York needs to be in the 21st Century. The limestone doesn't make any sense.
     
     
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Maybe without any snark meant it's because NYC is a timeless place.
Where else besides Chicago are you gonna find skyscrapers of all relevant architectutal schools that fit so well together?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2014, 11:42 PM
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Limestone is from the early 20th Century, and New York needs to be in the 21st Century. The limestone doesn't make any sense.
Let me point you to current projects like:

-1WTC
-3WTC
-4WTC
-One57
-225W 57th
-111W 57th
-Hudson Yards North
-Hudson Yards South
-The Equinox Tower
-The "Corset" tower
-Manhattan West
-56 Leonard
-432 Park
-Tower Verre
-425 Park Avenue
-22 Thames
-50 West

Amongst many other projects, developments and proposals.
     
     
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Limestone is from the early 20th Century, and New York needs to be in the 21st Century. The limestone doesn't make any sense.
Limestone makes perfect sense, and is every bit as 21st Century as 20th Century, perhaps even more.

This is an Upper East Side building. Limestone is timeless, extremely expensive, and reeks of real wealth. I suspect it will always be used in luxury buildings, especially in neighborhoods like the Upper East Side.

It also distinguishes NYC from anywhere else. A glass tower could be in Shenzhen or Baku or Lagos. Where else on the planet do they build limestone towers?
     
     
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Limestone makes perfect sense, and is every bit as 21st Century as 20th Century, perhaps even more.

This is an Upper East Side building. Limestone is timeless, extremely expensive, and reeks of real wealth. I suspect it will always be used in luxury buildings, especially in neighborhoods like the Upper East Side.

It also distinguishes NYC from anywhere else. A glass tower could be in Shenzhen or Baku or Lagos. Where else on the planet do they build limestone towers?
I wish they would overhaul the zoning code to give FAR bonuses to buildings that comply to a universal 'NY' aesthetic; this could give rise to a more uniform Hausmann-like city (i.e., completely beautiful) while encouraging significant additional density.

A limestone facade would be one of those aesthetic standards... though obviously this is a pipe-dream, it would actually be feasible in neighborhoods like the UES.
     
     
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Limestone makes perfect sense, and is every bit as 21st Century as 20th Century, perhaps even more.

This is an Upper East Side building. Limestone is timeless, extremely expensive, and reeks of real wealth. I suspect it will always be used in luxury buildings, especially in neighborhoods like the Upper East Side.

It also distinguishes NYC from anywhere else. A glass tower could be in Shenzhen or Baku or Lagos. Where else on the planet do they build limestone towers?
That's the key concept some are missing unfortunately. The same could be said about its unique collection of prewar and tenement high rises that crowd the Lower East Side for example, or SoHo, ect.. It gives the NYC feeling, and distinguishes it from all of the other bland, look a like cities. 99 Church St. is a good example of a tower that's being built that screams the 1920's. Classy, elegant, and the brain child of NYC.
     
     
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Where else on the planet do they build limestone towers?
Boston-New Liberty Mutual Tower. But that's just one tower, and here NY is doing a whole series of them. Wonder where Stern's next limestone beauty will pop up. Wasn't there one near Madison Square Park that Stern was designing? Or am I getting my developer Stern and architect Stern mixed up.

Still waiting to see a detailed perspective of the street level.
     
     
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As much as I like the art deco and limestone, New York still has a glut of stone buildings already. Needs more glass and steel.
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Limestone is from the early 20th Century, and New York needs to be in the 21st Century. The limestone doesn't make any sense.

It makes a lot of sense (and will make the Zeckendorfs a lot of money).


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The new building at 520 Park, designed by Robert A.M. Stern, the dean of the Yale architecture school, was assembled by brothers Arthur and William Lie Zeckendorf and much of the same team that created 15 Central Park West.

A rendering circulated to lenders showed an 85-foot wide building with views of Central Park. It has floor-to-ceiling windows of varying sizes topped by another detail recalling buildings built in Manhattan before World War II: a temple-like structure on the roof to hide a water tower and mechanical equipment. "Our market is probably a lot of people who could get into a co-op, but don't want to live in a building that is 95 years old," Mr. Zeckendorf said.

They know their intended market. With 31 units, this will be a very exclusive building.

The people who would prefer a more modern looking, glass tower can find that as well, in Manhattan.
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http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/03/th...partment-ever/

This $US100+ Million Penthouse Will Be NYC's Priciest Apartment Ever





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$100 million apartments aren’t the norm in NYC, but with “vertical mansions” bubbling up all over, it’s only a matter of time. This triplex, which the Wall Street Journal describes as “the city’s most expensive apartment,” is the latest contender.

The three-level penthouse will sit at the crown of a luxury tower on Park Avenue designed by Robert AM Stern. At 51 stories, it’s not the tallest, but it’s likely going to be the priciest: The private terraced triplex is priced at $US10,000 per square foot — more than $US120 million for 12,400 square feet in total.

$100 million sounds hyperbolic, but some of its neighbours are destined to offer similarly priced units.

This is the so-called “Billionaire’s Row,” a long thicket of astronomically expensive towers along West 57th Street (which we’ve written about before ). This is destined to become a neighbourhood of “vertical mansions,” a row of towers that are accessible only to a handful of owners who occupy multiple floors.

The question is whether the bubble — and this is a bubble — will last long enough to see all of them completed, much less sold. According to the Wall Street Journal, brokers are already worried that this glut of oligarch-ready units will never have enough prospective buyers

New York has never had a problem with half-finished skyscrapers, unlike cities including London, Caracas, and Chicago. But with millions of square feet underway along a single street, all priced for a very small demographic of buyers, it’s not out of the question.

After all, construction booms are almost always followed by economic busts. If NYC ends up being immune, it will be the exception to a tried-and-true rule.
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According to the Wall Street Journal, brokers are already worried that this glut of oligarch-ready units will never have enough prospective buyers
Six months ago, brokers were complaining they had nothing in that price range to sell. It'll sell, even if it doesn't get snapped up instantly.
     
     
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l wish that canopy in the penthouse balcony (don't know the term) was more integrated because its the only thing that l think would make this an A for me
     
     
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The original permits showed that canopy on the terrace being a half round shape. I think the square version is better than that. It's not that visible anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
     
     
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BTW, the portion that is offset to the right (east) is the part that cantilevers over its neighbor. It's a design that works because it's just a portion of the tower, as opposed to the tower itself.
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Reminds me a little of this, though its probably closer to 220 CPS...


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