TCH east of Nipigon (La route transcanadienne à l'est de Nipigon) - Page 71

Loco101 · #**1401** Posted **Jun 28, 2020, 4:03 AM**

I'm not at all surprised that the study has been cancelled. It's not important to the Ontario government.

I was hoping that at the very least an access road would be built, basically like the main logging roads you'll find here that are not paved but can handle transports. So in the event of an emergency closure, goods and people could take that alternative route.

Dengler Avenue · #**1402** Posted **Jun 28, 2020, 3:49 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loco101

I'm not at all surprised that the study has been cancelled. It's not important to the Ontario government.

I was hoping that at the very least an access road would be built, basically like the main logging roads you'll find here that are not paved but can handle transports. So in the event of an emergency closure, goods and people could take that alternative route.

Yea today I just realized that there’s one from 101 to Kapuskasing.

In that case, the cheapest solution really may just be bridging the gap between the two goat paths around Polly Lake.

Dengler Avenue · #**1403** Posted **Jun 28, 2020, 7:59 PM**

https://nipigonalternateaccess.ca/wp...n-Report_0.pdf

For anyone interested, check out D7 on slide 18.

Loco101 · #**1404** Posted **Jul 2, 2020, 6:07 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Yea today I just realized that there’s one from 101 to Kapuskasing.

In that case, the cheapest solution really may just be bridging the gap between the two goat paths around Polly Lake.

The road you are referring to is Nova Road which goes from Hwy 101 just a bit East of Foleyet and ends in Moonbeam at Hwy 11. It used to be two separate logging roads that were connected. It is Chain of Lakes Road at the Northern section. Clear Lake Road from Kapuskasing also connects to it.

I have never driven that road but want to and try some of the remote lakes for fishing.

Dengler Avenue · #**1405** Posted **Jul 14, 2020, 3:12 AM**

Meanwhile, I've been hung up on Shabaqua Freeway for a while.
@vid, which one (if any) rings a bell to you? The more northerly alignment is sandwiched between Pole Line Road and Oliver Road, and the southerly one is closer to the current Highway 11-17:
https://imgur.com/a/WsSyqmt
Lol, from Sistonens Corners to Shabaqua Corners, I'm totally passing my road-geek dream as Possible M.T.O. Proposal:
https://imgur.com/a/ZCCjDMk

vid · #**1406** Posted **Jul 14, 2020, 3:34 AM**

This one: https://imgur.com/a/WsSyqmt the faint red line, that's about what I think the plan that used to be online was proposing. I can't find the files, but I found this: https://northernontariommts.files.wo...2016-11-29.pdf

Dengler Avenue · #**1407** Posted **Jul 14, 2020, 3:42 AM**

Oh wow the admin from the highway group on Facebook was right - It really doesn’t make sense to abandon that much of the Shabaqua Extension.

As for that document, I’ve seen it before. Heh 185 pages... How am I supposed to read all of them...

Dengler Avenue · #**1408** Posted **Jul 16, 2020, 5:19 PM**

https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontarios-highway-programs
Surprise! Surprise!! Surprise!!! Even select projects along the Thunder Bay - Nipigon Corridor made the list too. Michael Gravelle must have had a nice chat with Greg Rickford.

Dengler Avenue · #**1409** Posted **Jul 25, 2020, 12:28 PM**

https://imgur.com/a/VCnw9IM
This is Highway 17 & Renfrew County Road 63. Speed limit has been reduced to 70 kph.
Huh okay. I’ve always thought the interchange will be at Calabogie Road instead.
I also witnessed a close call. Someone turned onto the 17 from County Road 63. The guy that was already on the 17 was too fast so he had to pass and honk. Then I heard the rumble strip.

jamincan · #**1410** Posted **Jul 25, 2020, 12:30 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loco101

I'm not at all surprised that the study has been cancelled. It's not important to the Ontario government.

I was hoping that at the very least an access road would be built, basically like the main logging roads you'll find here that are not paved but can handle transports. So in the event of an emergency closure, goods and people could take that alternative route.

If the proposal for both the EW and NS roads to the Ring of Fire ever goes anywhere, it would represent an alternate EW road link to the TCH at Nipigon. Not really practical as an EDR, but maybe significant in a strategic sense.

Flemay · #**1411** Posted **Jul 25, 2020, 1:55 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

https://imgur.com/a/VCnw9IM
This is Highway 17 & Renfrew County Road 63. Speed limit has been reduced to 70 kph.
Huh okay. I’ve always thought the interchange will be at Calabogie Road instead.
I also witnessed a close call. Someone turned onto the 17 from County Road 63. The guy that was already on the 17 was too fast so he had to pass and honk. Then I heard the rumble strip.

Maybe it'll be just an overpass for county road 63.(partial interchange)

White Pine · #**1412** Posted **Jul 29, 2020, 6:45 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

https://imgur.com/a/VCnw9IM
This is Highway 17 & Renfrew County Road 63. Speed limit has been reduced to 70 kph.
Huh okay. I’ve always thought the interchange will be at Calabogie Road instead.
I also witnessed a close call. Someone turned onto the 17 from County Road 63. The guy that was already on the 17 was too fast so he had to pass and honk. Then I heard the rumble strip.

I didn't think that the twinning had started yet. Interesting. I will be very happy with an interchange in that area though. When I go to Calabogie, I take the 17 until Calabogie Rd. On the way back to Pembroke, I take the Burnstown Rd to Renfrew. Not willing to make the sketchy left turn onto 17.

Dengler Avenue · #**1413** Posted **Jul 29, 2020, 7:59 PM**

Even right turns can be scary.

sonysnob · #**1414** Posted **Jul 31, 2020, 3:45 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

https://imgur.com/a/VCnw9IM
This is Highway 17 & Renfrew County Road 63. Speed limit has been reduced to 70 kph.
Huh okay. I’ve always thought the interchange will be at Calabogie Road instead.
I also witnessed a close call. Someone turned onto the 17 from County Road 63. The guy that was already on the 17 was too fast so he had to pass and honk. Then I heard the rumble strip.

This construction is just for a culvert replacement. While I'm sure this culvert has been designed with the twinned highway in mind, this construction doesn't have anything to do with the proposal to widen Highway 17 between Arnprior and Renfrew.

Mulder · #**1415** Posted **Aug 10, 2020, 11:00 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonysnob

This construction is just for a culvert replacement. While I'm sure this culvert has been designed with the twinned highway in mind, this construction doesn't have anything to do with the proposal to widen Highway 17 between Arnprior and Renfrew.

It has been

Mulder · #**1416** Posted **Aug 10, 2020, 11:05 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

https://imgur.com/a/VCnw9IM
This is Highway 17 & Renfrew County Road 63. Speed limit has been reduced to 70 kph.
Huh okay. I’ve always thought the interchange will be at Calabogie Road instead.
I also witnessed a close call. Someone turned onto the 17 from County Road 63. The guy that was already on the 17 was too fast so he had to pass and honk. Then I heard the rumble strip.

No Interchange here when twinning happens, both road access will be shut down, no bridge either. There will be a new road on the north side that runs parallel to the highway and connects to Calabogie Road. South side already kinda has a natural route that is only 2.5km long to get back to the highway.

Was it an issue with the Concrete Barrier and sight visibility ? Despite it being posted 70km/h for I've noticed people don't actually slow down until almost at the construction site.

Dengler Avenue · #**1417** Posted **Aug 10, 2020, 4:34 PM**

I don't know. People should drive prudently around cone zones to begin with.

Dengler Avenue · #**1418** Posted **Aug 15, 2020, 9:11 PM**

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?m...j0&usp=sharing

Nearly a decade ago, the then Liberal minority government undertook to map out the route for a freeway from Denlou (Sudbury) to Desbarats, but no one seemed to know what became of the project, so I tried it myself. Some parts may make sense but I don’t know about others.

DarkArconio · #**1419** Posted **Aug 16, 2020, 5:46 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mulder

No Interchange here when twinning happens, both road access will be shut down, no bridge either. There will be a new road on the north side that runs parallel to the highway and connects to Calabogie Road. South side already kinda has a natural route that is only 2.5km long to get back to the highway.

Was it an issue with the Concrete Barrier and sight visibility ? Despite it being posted 70km/h for I've noticed people don't actually slow down until almost at the construction site.

How do you know this? Are plans posted somewhere?

Dengler Avenue · #**1420** Posted **Aug 20, 2020, 1:08 AM**

I'm reposting from the main forum.
After working on this for 4 months, I'm happy to announce that I've finally finished (unofficially) examining the preliminary route options for extending Highway 417 across Ontario. Here's the map:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?m...j0&usp=sharing
445 km of Highway 17 either has been planned with publicly available route maps or even already has divided 4 lanes, so I've basically "taken over" the other 1519 km. You guys should take a look at the portion from Nipigon to Sault Sainte Marie.

(Warning: It may take 40 minutes to view everything.)

Okay I really need to get back to preparing for a job interview now. Maybe I will take a look for Highway 11 in September. I have tons of stuff on my plate right now.