NEW YORK | 80 South Street | 1,436 FT | 113 FLOORS - Page 5

NYguy · #81 Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 10:49 PM**

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So much legal mumbo jumbo -- What I want to know is the current status.

It's more or less " approved, with no financing".

TechTalkGuy · #82 Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 10:53 PM**

It's been on-hold for years.

NYguy · #83 Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 11:04 PM**

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It's been on-hold for years.

Not this version of the tower. Different developer and proposal.

It has "supertall" status, but I just hate when they get a few feet off of a nice, four figure height. Give us the two extra feet already!

TechTalkGuy · #84 Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 11:47 PM**

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Not this version of the tower. Different developer and proposal.

How many versions of this tower have there been?

scalziand · #85 Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 11:49 PM**

This is at least the third or forth design.

TechTalkGuy · #86 Posted **Feb 14, 2013, 12:05 AM**

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This is at least the third or forth design.

That's crazy!
How are we supposed to take this seriously?

NYguy · #87 Posted **Feb 14, 2013, 7:38 AM**

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That's crazy!
How are we supposed to take this seriously?

Well, you take it as seriously as you take any other proposal. Everything is a proposal until there is either one of two actions, or both : financing and filings (permits).

http://www.bdcnetwork.com/vegetative...evive-nyc-site

'Vegetative tower' apartments to revive NYC site
Site of defunct Santiago Calatrava project gets new life

BD+C Staff
February 13, 2013

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A Manhattan site formerly slated for development with a "tower of cubes"—a now-defunct project by Santiago Calatrava—will be revived with a 998-foot, 300,000-sf apartment building by Morali Architects. Developer Cord Meyer selected Anthony Morali's design for 80 South Street, which will include a hotel at the base and a series of integrated garden spaces. Vegetative roofs will punctuate the building at 10-story intervals, supporting gardens that will include vegetables and herbs for a shared kitchen.

Antares41 · #88 Posted **Feb 14, 2013, 6:03 PM**

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Not this version of the tower. Different developer and proposal.

It has "supertall" status, but I just hate when they get a few feet off of a nice, four figure height. Give us the two extra feet already!

There ought to be a law in NYC where heights are rounded up to the nearest 5. Really 998ft! it like someone is afraid of four digit numbers!

sbarn · #89 Posted **Feb 14, 2013, 7:03 PM**

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He specifically stated that no public review would be required for the development...

This project is so bizarre. If I would the developer, I would ask my architect to stop posting s**t on facebook until something is actually finalized, ha.

NYguy · #90 Posted **Feb 15, 2013, 12:09 AM**

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This project is so bizarre. If I would the developer, I would ask my architect to stop posting s**t on facebook until something is actually finalized, ha.

Hey, its working. We're talking about it, some in the media have picked it up. I don't think it would be making any news otherwise.

I'm not the only one thinking about the extra two feet...

http://newconstructionmanhattan.com/...ser-to-reality

80 South Street Tower Climbs Closer to Reality

Posted on Mon, 02/11/2013

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It’s been almost five years since Santiago Calatrava’s proposed tower at 80 South Street was scrapped, but the project is showing new signs of life in the hands of Morali Architects. If the most recent proposal is approved, the Financial District will boast a 998-foot tall skyscraper in the height-lacking eastern side.

The tower features recurrent gardens every ten stories, with a hotel on the lower floors, and residential apartments above. The released photos show a dynamic contrast of sleek glass and viridian skygardens spanning some 3,000 square feet, which illuminates Morali’s resolve to integrate sustainability into the urban downtown. Morali’s interest in using potential LEED components supports this envisionment of green living.

While it will still be some time before FiDi sees something built at 80 South Street, Morali’s proposal breathes new life into the South Street Seaport. Several have voiced their opinions via Facebook, with the apparent majority supporting the tower. However, one question remains on the minds of many--why not two more feet?

Eidolon · #91 Posted **Feb 19, 2013, 11:01 AM**

Designing 80 South Street

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From Tony's sketchbook: experimenting with the addition of a spire and trying some new forms.

The final design of this tower is still quite distant, but It seems to be getting better and more coherent as time goes on. Needless to say, I expect the final design of the tower to be of great quality.

NYguy · #92 Posted **Feb 19, 2013, 10:19 PM**

And there you go. Hopefully it would be a well integrated spire.

TechTalkGuy · #93 Posted **Feb 20, 2013, 1:19 AM**

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And there you go. Hopefully it would be a well integrated spire.

I don't know, sir.

That drawing is quite sketchy to know what the final product would look like.

Roadcruiser1 · #94 Posted **Feb 20, 2013, 3:27 AM**

This was Morali Architects post on Facebook for the building.

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"We'll be posting a few new 80 South Street images today, including some sketches from Tony's sketchbook, where he is experimenting with the adding of a spire to the 998' tower."

This was posted on 2/14/2013.

TechTalkGuy · #95 Posted **Feb 20, 2013, 5:48 AM**

According to various websites, including but not limited to Emporis and Wikipedia, all I ask is a link to the source, please?

NYguy · #96 Posted **Feb 20, 2013, 7:31 AM**

Its on the same page we got the rest of the info.

Roadcruiser1 · #97 Posted **Feb 20, 2013, 9:26 AM**

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According to various websites, including but not limited to Emporis and Wikipedia, all I ask is a link to the source, please?

The official Facebook to Morali Architects.

https://www.facebook.com/MoraliArchitects

marvelfannumber1 · #98 Posted **Feb 20, 2013, 11:41 AM**

In my opinion the new design looks way better than the old one, but the location is horrible. Might this be the new 60 Wall Street?

TechTalkGuy · #99 Posted **Feb 20, 2013, 3:28 PM**

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Its on the same page we got the rest of the info.

All I asked was to include a link -- I usually do that when I reference information from an outside source.

Thank you, Roadcruiser1 !!

NOTE: I always provide links to places and people whenever possible.

NYguy · #**100** Posted **Feb 22, 2013, 3:56 AM**

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All I asked was to include a link -- I usually do that when I reference information from an outside source.

Yes it is necessary to provide links. However, if that's all you wanted, it was posted on the previous page.

Meanwhile, looks like they have added about 20 ft to the design...
https://www.facebook.com/MoraliArchi...type=3&theater

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This is the newest view of the building, as seen from the rear. This view highlights the vertical shear wall, as well as the cross bracing. The cross bracing evokes the idea of a corset's laces, and creates additional shapes that compliment the building's form

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The Eastern view of the tower.

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A view looking up South Street, towards the Brooklyn Bridge.

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This view is the front of the building, as seen from South Street.